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the optical excellent Canon EF-M 22mm f/2 STM is ony $250.

In fact, the Olympus 15mm f/8 with M4/3 to NEX adapter is much thinner and more fun. The heavy vignette might be a issue but I see it as LOMO style.

The Sony 20mm 2.8 looks nice though!

So is 85/1.8 postponed? any gueses about it’s announcement date

Sony announces all kinds of things. Sony ships. . . not much. Since they only have one guy making lenses in the whole company, and who also has to empty the waste baskets, this new lens will just push every product back.

Looking directly at my SEL16F28, this SEL20F28 looks like a refresh with a flatter front element. It even looks like the FCL-ECU1/ECF1 adapters will fit.

Given that the primary issue that people had with the SEL16F28 was the extreme corners (center resolution was actually not just good, but great), perhaps they re-used much of the same optical formula without over-reaching on FoV.

It also needs to be remembered that the SEL16F28 was $250 at the outset, and fell rapidly to being a freebie(!) as it currently.

I honestly think that Sony is not trying to sell many of the SEL20F28 as stand-alones, but merely establishing its “value” for inclusion into camera + lens bundles. Do remember that was how many NEX-5/5N and NEX-3/C3 were sold, with the SEL16F28.

the pancake is very small, right, but no OSS, f/2,8 and 350$! gasp! not very sexy.

the PZ 18-200 is full frame ready, right?

I’ve always thought Sony’s 16mm pancake is quite a nice little kit lens. I’ve had some good results with it. This new 20mm would have to be significantly better for a decent price to make me want it. I suspect its probably neither of those things.

meh. f/2.8
One stop faster would be nice.
I think this is just the replacement for the 16mm in the same design as the 35mm. Looks nice though.

Would be nice if Sony would show another wide-angle lens with a faster aperture at CP+ but from their point of view the Zeiss 24 mm probably already covers everything whats left in between. I am still kind of sad that there is no consumer grade lens for shooting indoors with low light.

Maybe Sigma will update their primes too, since they are selling them at these low prices now?

The m43 Panasonic 14/2.5 pancake is $400 and the Olympus 17/2.8 pancake is $300, so $350 is not too unreasonable.

Besides, I think this pancake will be offered as a kit for future NEX bodies at $200 a piece. The SEL16 which retailed for $250 only costs $100 in a kit.

If only the lens had an automatic cap, the kind you can find on most compacts. That would make one-handed operation of NEXes possible. And hence make them more appealing to outdoorsy people.

Which is the release date of Zeiss 50mm 1.4 SSM A-mount?
Otherwise I’ll buy Sigma or Sony

So this is the “Snap (pancake)” from the Sony e-mount lens roadmap for 2013?

Is there any news on the “Mid-magnification zoom” from the roadmap, also scheduled for 2013?

I think the prices for these lenses (and the recent E-mount 35F18) is a bad sign for Sony users (like me). Panasonic/Leica have a smaller sensor size, so can make smaller lenses that are more affordable. CaNikon have efficiencies of scale and have amortized the R&D costs over the decades. For example, the recent and highly regarded Canon 40mm 2.8 pancake sells for $150. Unfortunately, Sony can not match these prices, and is losing so much money across the company it can not subsidize prices to build market share. As a Sony E-mount user, does it make sense to purchase these APS format lenses at these inflated prices if they will be obsoleted by a future full frame? I am tempted to get a metabones adapter and Canon full frame lenses – the glass is good value and since they are designed for full frame, they should work with any future full frame NEX (perhaps with a new adapter) or Canon. So the only benefit with Sony versus Sigma/Canon lenses is the compact size. Yet if size really matters the m4/3 are compelling. It is a shame, the 50f18 is a nice lens and a reasonable value, but perhaps the last Sony glass I will buy.