(SR3) New 3,8 Million dots EVF for the NEX-7n?
I got this from a new source (Thank You). I was not able yet to confirm it with trusted sources so please take that SR3 ranked rumor with a grain of salt for now ok?
Anyway, the source seems to know that the new NEX-7n has a stunning new Electronic Viewfinder with 3.8 Million dot resolution. That’s almost 60% more resolution than you have on the current NEX-7. The source said it’s very “bright and sharp“.
Reminder: The NEX-7n is rumored to be announced in early April and it may uses a new 24 MP sensor with 1/3 of stop improvement.
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Reminder (SR = Sonyrumor):
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SR2=rumor from unknown sources
SR3=50% chance it is correct
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SR5=almost certainly correct!
Frank
3 months ago |Nice way to piss off A99 buyers.
Kursad Sezgin
3 months ago |Nice said Frank. I was about to post something about this. I don’t think Sony would install a single screw to 7R better than A99′s
Alan
3 months ago |It will not haha. They are still different thing.
Frank
3 months ago |You appear to miss the point!
extra|ordinary
3 months ago |As an actual a99 owner, this news does not piss me off. The a99 is fantastic, and the inevitable integration of new technology into the cameras that follow does nothing to inhibit my ability to enjoy the camera I own. I bought the a99 because it met my needs at the time, it was a choice I made. It would be silly for me to feel cheated now.
Poke
3 months ago |What is the 99′s EVF. Doesn’t tick me off but Frank has a point. It does not appear that this EVF was not around before the release of their supposed flagship. The rest of their line should spend the next year catching up with the 99, not surpassing it in three months.
Carl
3 months ago |If it gets them to make the next FF sooner rather than latter, then I’m all for it. Replace the AF module while you’re at it, Sony.
Frank
3 months ago |With Sony’s track record the next FF will be dumbed down to make it cheaper.
Carl
3 months ago |Not that being cheaper would be a bad thing in and of itself given the aspirational pricing on the A99.
andrew
3 months ago |Frank – you say that like it’s a bad thing!
Frank
3 months ago |Dumb it down any more and you might as well buy the A58.
E
3 months ago |Strange view, do you mean that the a99 is a ceiling?
Progress is progress, if you electronic equipment you shouold be aware and not worry about it.
Frank
3 months ago |It’s the timing.
Dave Lively
3 months ago |Did you want them to delay the A99 until April when the rumored viewfinder was ready?
Frank
3 months ago |Yes, because it makes sense to do so since the A99, like the A77, was released without the bugs ironed out.
chlamchowder
3 months ago |I can see the problem with the a77 being released prematurely with a ton of bugs (some of which seemed pretty crippling), but that doesn’t quite seem to be the case with the a99. The flash problem is the only one I’ve heard of.
ageha
3 months ago |Forget the A99, there’s nothing good about it. Sony needs to move on.
Almazar80
3 months ago |Nothing good for who? You maybe. Others, perhaps not.
WTH
3 months ago |Sony just needs to deliver one Brilliant Photo-Centric Camera that blows the competition out of the water…
Trouble with most Sony products, is that it has good points, but not that great as to go WOW, I MUST HAVE THAT!
The irony is that Sony supplied the Sensors for the D800 a WOW, I MUST HAVE camera.
Frank
3 months ago |Not gonna happen, Sony don’t employ photographers.
CTPhotographX.com
3 months ago |One Photo Centric Camera… Yes Please. That means getting my iISO back, so lighting and 3rd party doesn’t need adapters… which was the big complaint to begin with?
Photo Centric means we don’t want to exchange our entire flash system for a microphone.
Fants
3 months ago |Yeah and the D800 has some huge flaws too. I’m with you that Sony has really dropped the ball recently, but NONE of the big companies have produced anything close to a “perfect” camera.
klw10
3 months ago |I do not quite understand your logic with this statement. I have both the a99 and the a900 and I no longer use the a900. So I guess there is nothing good about the a99 that would make me do this then. Right……….
extra|ordinary
3 months ago |Haha. Well put.
Almazar80
3 months ago |You’re suggesting, then, that if new technology becomes available, that Sony holds off on using it unless it is for their flagship camera, even if the flagship is released on a three year schedule? The best for the best then, and scraps for others?
Maximus
3 months ago |The Nex-7 IS the Flagship for the mirrorless segment
Frank
3 months ago |What I am suggesting is that potential A99 users will not bother buying one due to a NEX and A78 having a better EVF. Well done Sony…
Amir Kh
3 months ago |BS.. People buy A99 for full-frame sensor. Nex-7N doesn’t have that. It might have a highre resolution EVF, but then again, it’s newer model so it should have newer available tech.
Stan
3 months ago |People who buy A99, even if a full frame NEX is available, will not be split between the two. Those are 2 completely different segments and exist side by side. What A-mount has doesn’t affect E-mount users and the other way around. Now if A78 will come out with that, and it probably will, given sharing of resources for cost saving purposes, then we can have this debate…
AG
3 months ago |Sony changes hardware specs very quickly. Seems to be hit/miss strategy.
Amir Kh
3 months ago |Why? Technology improves with time. If the A99 owners are pissy that 6 months later a better EVF was developed than what is on their older camera, then they are retarded.
Klipsen
3 months ago |Having pissed off pre-A99 buyers by changing the hotshoe, what makes you think they won’t?
Besides, they can’t very well put off installing an even better viewfinder in a new camera, just because it wasn’t available a year ago.
George Evans
3 months ago |If the NEX7n has the new EVF then so will the A78 this Summer.
SR6
3 months ago |I must say that I am very excited by the idea of a NEX7 successor but still dubious about the level of rumors those times.
Admin
Could you recap what specs are SR5 vs what are maybe crap ?
Thanks
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Twaddler Belafonte
3 months ago |Are you wary of rumors? Then go to DPreview and get it when it’s hot.
GreenLens
3 months ago |Nice!
What about refresh rate? It’s a pain when panning.
Juan
3 months ago |I’ve found the refresh rate of the NEX 7 viewfinder very good indeed. Fast enough for take the pictures that it’s AF allows to.
Vivek
3 months ago |Yes, both are sluggish.
john
3 months ago |fix em both while yer at it
The Lotus Eater
3 months ago |Not true, Vivek.
Sky_walker
3 months ago |I’d say: it depends. In a poor lighting conditions every EVF will go sluggish. Usually though by then you can see barely anything in an OVF
E
3 months ago |I agree with this post, more MP means more data to process.
And some of us would prefer data band width to be used for refresh rate instead of resolution.
Ideal would to allow for adjustable resolution so you can adapt for shooting style.
/E
Alf
3 months ago |But the lag doesn’t come from a limited bandwidth for such high resolution.
The lag and the noise come in low light because the sensor ISO is pushed to the max and the shutterspeed is slowed down to allow us to actually see something in the viewfinder (or the rear LCD for that matter).
All electronic viewfinders / LCD have that “issue”.
But as Sky_Walker pointed out earlier, by the time that “issue” becomes too problematic, optical viewfinders are already totally black.
E
3 months ago |Refresh rate affects the experience of panning and fast moving subjects also.
Sky_walker
3 months ago |refresh rate is a very minor factor for that. If it would be the only one only lag you’d see should be around 1/24th to 1/60th second – you wouldn’t know it’s there unless working with both eyes open at the same time (and even then you might have missed that under some lighting conditions).
Lag we see comes from few more factors than just a refresh rate, and actually: refresh rate is most likely the least important factor of the whole equation.
GreenLens
3 months ago |Oly EVF makes up to 120 fps:
http://www.olympusamerica.com/oai_pressDetails.asp?pressNo=909
Can anybody give me a reference for Sony?
Sören
3 months ago |The Oly EVF is even expendable to 240 fps.
It has far less pixels, but I nevertheless prefer it to the Nex-7 one.
Pixelcount is not the most important spec of an EVF.
Vivek
3 months ago |The whole “new wiring” makes sense in terms of this higher pixel count EVF. So, in effect everything is going to be the same as in 7. Equally slow refresh rates, slow AF, terrible WB, poor corners, battery consumption….no change at all.
Here is an innovative proposal to Sony- how about a 700 Euro trade in deal towards the 7 for the 7n?
The Lotus Eater
3 months ago |Here’s another proposal – go back to the planet you came from.
Vivek
3 months ago |IMO, you should be banned. Good for everyone, including, I might add, Sony!!
The Lotus Eater
3 months ago |I should be banned?! Yeah OK. You are the chief troll here – responsible for spreading masses of misinformation.
MISA
3 months ago |Is there any chance that A77 successor will be announced along with Nex-7n ?
Denis
3 months ago |I hope it will be bigger than old one. Either by it’s physical dimension or optical magnification.
Bert
3 months ago |Even with 3 mp evf and 24 mp sensor, if i miss the picture due to slow af, each mp is worthless
Tristan
3 months ago |+1
bobob
3 months ago |Is it a touch-screen EVF ? lol
Frank
3 months ago |I’d prefer eye tracking AF.
adamfrimer
3 months ago |enough sensor tuning… tune the processor. I cant get more than 10 raw shots on a 95 mbps sd card on my a99 my a900′s buffer couldnt fill with a 60 mbps card.
Grev
3 months ago |Isn’t ‘taking it with a grain of salt’ of the SR1 category and not SR3?
admin
3 months ago |Also, the turth is trusted soruces told me the new EVF has very high resolution. So that is SR4 or SR5. But that single 3.8 MP info hasn’t been confirmed yet but has a good chance to be true because I know the EVF has a high reoslution. Yep, complicated I know
Frank
3 months ago |Just in time for the A78 too.
Almazar80
3 months ago |You know, everybody wants something different so in effect, no camera will ever please anybody. Especially the readership in SAR. Meanwhile, a lot of photographers make do with the A77s, A99s, NEX7s, etc. that they bought. And do nicely for that matter.
HajLender
3 months ago |I think the if there will be an improvement in EVF resolution, It will be somewhere 3,7M dots.
Taking in account the current resolution of 1024 * 768, I expect the new one to be somewhere at 1280 * 960. However I do not consider it as a huge improvement. Though it is a nice technical delivery of engineers.
AG
3 months ago |Are they sure about 1/3 stop better performance or is this the same source that gave A58 DR info?
Cathay
3 months ago |lol at those A99 basher… come on. Are you really expecting..the company to publish new stuff that are worst off than the older stuff. Are you serious? lol..
If u have this mindset..good for you. Just dont buy anything because whats coming out later will always be better. Period.
And to add.. DSLT and NEX are of different target market and totally different shooting experiences.
Frank
3 months ago |You are completely missing the point.
The A99 has only recently been released, it is very expensive, it is the flagship Sony camera.
It’ll have a two year old EVF with a better version being on a NEX of all things and probably the A78 too, a lower spec APS-C…how does that make ANY sense to A99 buyers?
Vivek
3 months ago |The A99 is *not* the flagship camera of SOny. It is a “mid level” camera- check Sony’s site. The “flagship” they had was the A900. It is discontinued and has not been replaced with another flagship camera.
Frank
3 months ago |Semantics
Sky_walker
3 months ago |you are the one who started to argue about semantics, so don’t be surprised by a response in a same topic
Frank
3 months ago |Sky-walker stalking me again. Now there’s a surprise!
The Lotus Eater
3 months ago |What’s the problem? You stalk everyone here.
Kevin
3 months ago |luke use the force.
SonyCyberPunk
3 months ago |Stalk You!
Poke
3 months ago |Well you better tell Sony because they consider it their flagship camera. Sony never created an equal to Nikon or Canon in regards to their flagship cameras, but this is Sony’s flagship SLT until a better on comes out which does not look like anytime soon. This improved EVF if true is too close to the release of the recently released 99. I find it hard to believe this could not have been incorporated into the 99.
Kursad Sezgin
3 months ago |Cathay, think this way… You spent €100.000 and buy a BMW M3 which has a 400HP engine. 3 months later, BMW announced BMW 3.35 with a turbo charger that boosts the power to 450HP and the price is €75.000.
Dave Lively
3 months ago |People are not buying the A99 for the viewfinder, they are buying it for the full-frame sensor. That sensor is the equivalent of an engine in a car. How many people do think buy the A99 for the viewfinder?
A better analogy would be BMW making a M3 with a 450 hp engine and then 6 months later introducing a smaller, lighter and less expensive model with a 300 hp engine that handles better due to an improved suspension.
Sky_walker
3 months ago |People are not buying it only for FF sensor. D600 or 6D is the camera people buy for FF sensor – the cheapest one.
Razer
3 months ago |There’s 7 or more months between the announcements of the A99 and a supposed 7N. If they didn’t have a suggested 3.8MP OLED EVF ready for production then and they do now, should they hold back? The display technology and especially the OLED technology is one that is very much on the move.
I find it ironic that some of those complaining about (too) minor upgrades from Sony and dumbing down to keep the hierarchy intact, are now suggesting that Sony should dumb down a 7N because the A99 flagship owners might start complaining.
Similarly, if they managed to improve sensor read out speed again (which strongly affects both CDAF speeds and EVF lag, see OMD for example), I wouldn’t want them to hold back either. Even if that means improvements over the A99 as well (which admittedly is partially handicapped with the larger sensor since faster read out speeds are harder to achieve with larger sensors).
E
3 months ago |“The A99 has only recently been released, it is very expensive, it is the flagship Sony camera.”
Let’s say that a new and better EVF have emerged on the market latey.
So, what do you propose that sony should have done instead???
Delayed the A99 for another 8 months?
(How much would have been obsolete by then, and had to be replaced…
Basically scrapping the a99, and start all over.)
Are you actually proposing an alternative solution, or just whining?
/E
Bill
3 months ago |The new viewfinder if it exists would have gone into the A1 high MP FF Sony had planned for spring. Sony has dumped that camera for now, so there is no soon to be released body to get the viewfinder on the A-mount side. Certainly the A78 in the fall will get it, and the new viewfinder is probably the reason the A58 stepped up to the old OLED viewfinder as well. No reason to not include the new finder in the NEX-7N. If the A99 was slated to be released in March then yes it should have had the new viewfinder but the A99 has been out for a while. Are you suggesting Sony come out with a A99N in April just so FF users do not fall behind viewfinder tech.
Zohee35
3 months ago |The A58 doesn’t have the “old” OLED viewfinder, it has a new one too (with 1.4 million dots rather than 2.4 million dots).
Hessel Folkertsma
3 months ago |FFS Frank, I could really do without your constant pessimism in EVERY blogpost. It’s getting old! Considering how fast technology moves forward the A99 is not what I would call a ‘recently’ released camera anymore, especially not by the time this 7n is released. The EVF they put in the A99 is the best EVF that had produced up until that moment and that’s what they stuck with. You can’t blame Sony for putting better specced parts into newer models? It’s nonsence.
Nik
3 months ago |This is silly. If it’s announced in April the camera probably won’t even be widely available until June. You’re saying Sony shouldn’t be offering superior features over something released nine months prior? Or should the A99 have been held back for the better part of a year? Forget the fact that there is still no competitor that has developed a higher-specced EVF than Sony’s, or that it actually performs better on the A99 and RX1 due to the increased DR and low light capabilities of the FF sensor.
Silliness.
MrBig
3 months ago |The A99 was never a flagship camera.
That being said, Sony will release higher end studio FF SLT’s later this year which will likely fill that gap.
adamfrimer
3 months ago |how do you figure? they reduced the FPS in the a99 from the a77 my assumption was so that the buffer wouldnt fill as fast, and guess what, its the same.
the duo-bionz-processor in the a850 and a900 was the smartest part of the camera, no menu lag, no control lag, it was a solid camera, the a99 has disappointingly slow response to just about everything, which is a shame because the camera itself is very high quality
Sky_walker
3 months ago |FPS went down because of FF sensor and 14 bit RAWs.
That’s also why butter fills equally fast – yes, there are less frames in second, but more data to store and process.
Syl
3 months ago |let’s hope the sensor’s resolution will be as good as the viewfinder’s resolution…
any update concerning a new kit lens? a zeiss maybe? would be great to have a 16-80 with fix aperture…(dreaming mode on).
ageha
3 months ago |I guess you wouldn’t buy it for obvious reasons.
Stan
3 months ago |16-50 F/2.8 APSC is already huge. How big and unusable would 16-80 FF be, even in F/3.5? Think about it. Just look at 16-35 F/2.8 and scale up from there….
Stan
3 months ago |Umm, I have no idea why I replied with FF comment lol. I guess after all A99 EVF comments that kind of gets into your head. But even in APSC format, the thing would be huge if you want a large constant arpeture.
Toon
3 months ago |Andrea
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That would be a real challenge if you get all the specs SR5 one month prior to the announcement !!
Anonymous
3 months ago |And remember when all those old timers said the EVF will never replace the OVF? Haha. In a few years we will have affordable 10 million dot EVFs that will have night vision and beat any old OVF.
EVerF
3 months ago |I have to say that I miss the preview and the WYSIWYG very much when peeping through an OVF
Weird ! I would have never thought I would prefer an EVF over an OVF !!
Bill Burton
3 months ago |Everyone please buy the new NEX 7N ans tump your old one onto the market. Perhaps thence price will drop, I can sell my 5N and pick one up!
crazydoctor
3 months ago |The nex 7 EVF resolution is already good to my eyes. But they need to improve the lag when it turns on and also the power consumption
Sky_walker
3 months ago |Same with me. I don’t have any issue with A77 resolution, but I’d be glad if the response time would improve (I also would be glad if they’d add calibration settings for EVF, especially adjustable brightness).
GreenLens
3 months ago |Will the new 7n replace BOTH the old 7 AND 6? Could be anew trend..
Luffy
3 months ago |There probably will be a 6N ;D
Steve
3 months ago |+1
The Nex 6 is now too old for Sony. This is how Sony delivers new firmware with…. a new nex !
And coming next Nex 9 and Nex 4 !!!
Adl
3 months ago |Dear Sony,
release A78 and then please give us 2 new FF Alphas.
One cheaper than A99 with improved video IQ with more detail and no aliasing/moire (Nikon D5200 did show you the direction).
And one PRO FF Alpha straight optimized for foto.
Sky_walker
3 months ago |+1
GreenLens
3 months ago |99+1?
Seems to be the last 2-digit number.
Frank
3 months ago |Dream on, Sony are too interested in NEX.
JoeNoName
3 months ago |+1
Carl
3 months ago |I think we’re going to be lucky to get one more FF camera within the next 2-3 years, let alone two. Happy to be proven wrong, though.
MrBig
3 months ago |I’m going to venture that we’ll be seeing signs of a FF mirorless within the next year. SLT is great and all though something tells me it’s more of a stop gap product that a roadmap objective type solution.
DiBok
3 months ago |I was mainly hoping for better border quality and better AF in the N7 successor.
Now also receiving a higher res EVF, I’d be happy with.
I’ll buy it anyway.
AG
3 months ago |It might be interesting if Sony explored a new body design for merged Alpha and Nex lines where they start like a range finder but add EVF/flash and battery grip thus transforming into SLR style.
Just saying a modular EVF would allow a way to upgrade as needed by the customer.
Tom S
3 months ago |I tend to agree. The camera can have a native FF compatible e-mount setup, with alpha adapter included in the price. It would allow for the flexibility we have on the Nex with cheap adapters and third party lenses (and things like the speedbooster), and offer good compatibility with alpha lenses. I think it needs built in stabilizer though,something I really miss on the Nex….
AG
3 months ago |Perhaps this EVF will be in A78 ?
Atlasman
3 months ago |Long live the EVF!
DiBok
3 months ago |Guess so.
Guboss
3 months ago |If this rumor is true, it doesn’t just mean a better display on EVF , it also means that need more energy consumption for processor performance, maybe it is not a best balance for a SLT camera .I think sony’s 2.4M oled EVF is good enough, and I hope the next a7x have a better endurance.
true homer
3 months ago |A YAWN update.
Guboss
3 months ago |I suspect this evf is not for aps-c SLT or NEX , more likely to be used in the next generation of FF cameras.
Marlon
3 months ago |It’s funny when I peek into Nikon forums I read the same bitching about the D600 being POS that no one wants, the D800 has too many megapixels with a so-so AF, and the D4 is too expensive. Users threatening to leave Nikon if they don’t make a D800 successor with the D4 specs.
It’s the same here…
Michele
3 months ago |Bang on!
I was about to write the same: there’s a lot of people bitching around…
Don Cox
3 months ago |Looking for a reason why their photographs are disappointing.
woof woof
3 months ago |Personally I don’t need a EVF that’s “very bright and sharp.”
My current EVF is so bright that even with the brightness turned down as far as it’ll go the light output is so high that I just can’t use it in low light. Taking just ine shot leads to eye strain and a total loss of night vision.
As I seem to be the only person who suffers from this I guess I’ll just have to continue to use my CSC in good light only and revert to my DSLR and its OVF when I don’t want a torch shining directly into one eye while I compose and shoot
CTPhotographX.com
3 months ago |Turn settings effect off. Then it will be any brightness you desire.
woof woof
3 months ago |In low light the technology emits light that’s higher than the ambient light. In truly low light put your hand or a piece of paper behind the VF and you’ll see the light output. That’s something that you simply do not get with an OVF.
chlamchowder
3 months ago |And that’s something you don’t want to get. You don’t want the viewfinder to ruin your night vision when you’re out in a dark environment. Your eye adapts to the bright light source, so you can’t see out of that eye when you take it away from the finder.
Also, think of all the battery power needed to produce that light, not to mention the power needed to run the sensor/processor full time to give that EVF image. That’s battery power that’s not put into picture taking.
Zohee35
3 months ago |Too much of a generalization. In normal indoor low light situations, it’s a benefit since your night vision never gets to its full potential anyway (reasons being the lightsources themselves). This is where the EVF has a major benefit, also because night vision takes up to 20 minutes to adapt. Time you often don’t have, especially with rapidly changing conditions. That’s from experience using the A900 and A99.
The only time that it can be a downside, for long exposure nightshots where night vision does have the time to adapt and helps framing. But for long exposures, a quick test shot (high ISO) usually suffices to help framing an EVF camera without ruining night vision due to longer exposure to the EVF light.
woof woof
3 months ago |Personally I don’t need a EVF that’s “very bright and sharp.”
My current EVF is so bright that even with the brightness turned down as far as it’ll go the light output is so high that I just can’t use it in low light. Taking just ine shot leads to eye strain and a total loss of night vision.
As I seem to be the only person who suffers from this I guess I’ll just have to continue to use my CSC in good light only and revert to my DSLR and its OVF when I don’t want a torch shining directly into one eye while I compose and shoot
woof woof
3 months ago |Soeey for the double post.
Kenny HUD
3 months ago |I know you guys have heard it before but sadly it is still the case lenses! where are they? I loved the design and low ISO performance of the NEX7 and the rumored 7n looks even better very tempting in fact. But the lens system is either disappointing or overpriced.
To replace my mFT gear what would you honestly suggest. I have the Panasonic 12-35,35-100 , 25m F1.4 ,Olympus 75mm and Olympus 60mm along with a GH3 and an E-M5.The design and ergonomics and image quality of the Nex ticks all the boxes but what would you suggest as viable replacement for my mFT selection.I am not interested in huge manual focus adapted lenses I want a modern lens selection for a modern camera.
CTPhotographX.com
3 months ago |I had NEX7 with all the OLY PEN FT’s. Excellent all around. Especially the 60/1.5 and 40/1.4. (38/1.8 too). I liked the 20 better than the 25… but they both have incredible close focus. Great form factor on NEX7.
CTPhotographX.com
3 months ago |Without a better optical magnifier to view the EVF, it won’t matter how many pixels it has. Needs higher quality magnifier that doesn’t smear edges. Thing should be huge viewing circle with lots of nose/eye relief and twice the size, like medium format viewing. Only then will true EVF advantage become obvious to all… something that OVF cannot compare with, and has been a problem since the digital age.
CTPhotographX.com
3 months ago |And until NEX provides for editing in magnified playback, or diagonal scrolling for magnified playback and focus, or a comfortable vertical shooting prevision, I personally cannot consider it adequate for professional work. If a camera is to be in my hand all day, it must be ready to move efficiently.
NEX is nice camera for tag along. But I’ll reach for the Alphas when a fine instrument is required.
Sky_walker
3 months ago |Diagonal scrolling… it’s still beyond my understanding why Sony cannot solve it.
Tom S
3 months ago |I only want two things:
a) clean HDMI out (and overall better video quality)
b) real image/video stabilization
Tu
3 months ago |Is SAR a forum for only negative people these days? The new NEX-7n is fantastic news! Don’t complaine just becase it might be better than the one You got.
I been using my NEX-7 from start and will be happy to buy a new one. Will not look fr an FF at all. Have had the Full Monty all my life. Leica M2, Nikon F, F2 and today Canon 5D mk3 but NEX-7 is just better. Size matters!
Zohee35
3 months ago |It’s a forum problem in general. Whether is product is good or not isn’t relevant, if it’s not tailored to the wishes of that one person X, person X will complain until it does (never).
Visit this rumor forum, visit Dpreview Sony, Nikon or Canon forums, it’s all the same.
Constructive and realistic criticism (not to be confused with “what I want is best, so this is a fail”) can be found with a magnifying glass only.
Carl
3 months ago |It’s mainly the long-time A mount users who are feeling jaded. While there was a fair few criticisms on NEX in its early days (mainly: “where’s the lenses!?”) that’s declined since the f1.8 trio came on the scene.
With several A mount cameras (notably A77, A99 and now A58) Sony has made some rather curious design decisions, and their release schedule and pricing for non-kit lenses is a sore point. All considered, it seems like the NEX design team has a much better grasp of their customer base and sense of purpose and ambition than the A mount team do.
John Maverick
3 months ago |Yes. And it’s utterly ridiculous.
SonyCyberPunk
3 months ago |Leica is a joke.
Gardener
3 months ago |Why ?
Simon T
3 months ago |Another NEX product another yawn all around.
No IBIS = yawn
Sky_walker
3 months ago |you’ll probably spend a life time yawning
Carl
3 months ago |Or he could buy an Olympus.
Nik
3 months ago |It’s interesting that no company has made an APS-C mirrorless with sensor shift stabilization. It’d be a huge deal for legacy lens users who don’t want the 2x crop factor of MFT. I know Sony has said they simply won’t do it in the NEX line because of the size but a year ago a Sony rep at the shop was assuring everyone there definitely wouldn’t be a FF NEX because then the lenses would be too big.
I doubt very much it’s coming to the new 7 but hopefully Sony puts it in the body of the pro NEX 9
ffvifffe
3 months ago |pentax k-01 have sensor shift stabilisation, focus peaking , is mirrorless and can use a lot of legacy lenses (k mount). But people dont like de design even if has a very good IQ ,and AF also have been improved via firmware …
Jason
3 months ago |Ever shot film? Would you even know what to do with a camera without IBIS? If there answer is yes to even one of these questions, you have no complaint.
Dave
3 months ago |Assuming the NEX-7n is announced the next month or month after, it’s still unlikely it will ship those months. So by the time the NEX-7n ships, the A99 will be at least 6+ months old. Is it really that odd for something half a year later to have better technology? Apple started selling the 4th generation ipad about 7 months after the 3rd one started shipping.
Sky_walker
3 months ago |comparing to iPad… wow… I couldn’t have think of anything better!
Poke
3 months ago |Dave,
I think that is an apples and oranges comparison. If it was a FF nex 9 then I would say you are right. But you want to compare the nex7n to their supposed flagship. Don’t get me wrong, I am glad they are continually improving the EVF, but call me cynical but I think that EVF could have found its way into the 99.
John
3 months ago |If the sensor is only 24m, what is the meaning to have a 38m viewfinder? Doesn’t make any sense
Hmmm
3 months ago |3.8 is not the same as 38.
xxxx
3 months ago |People here are hard to please. Some prefer high refresh rate – low res, some prefer otherwise. Hopefully Sony will find the best balance of refresh rate/ resolution etc etc.
Mike
3 months ago |Wouldn’t have happened with an OVF. A FF OVF is always better than an APS-C OVF. I don’t criticize Sony for giving us an EVF, but I blame them for not passing on the cost reductions to the customer.
Mike
3 months ago |And by the way, not only did Sony sell the A99 overpriced, they also start very soon with devaluing it by providing a much cheaper product with better EVF.
kuishinbou
3 months ago |Instead of bringing out so many cameras, they should be bringing out better lenses and focus on bringing out the full frame NEX. Who needs a NEX 7 replacement, when there is a full frame NEX in the making.
spaceman
3 months ago |That is the sound of a broken and whining record.
Both are needed. New bodies AND new lenses.
Especially when the development in sensor tech etc is accelerating these years, then it makes it more important to come up with body upgrades often. Nobody says you have to buy them after each iteration.
Just wait, soon two more lenses will be announced together with NEX-7N.
Björn
3 months ago |I am confused. If the NEX 7 EVF is 2.36 million dot, how cant that be 1024×768 pixels? I thought dots were the same as pixels? What are the 2.36 million dots then?
1024*768= 786432 pixels or 0,79 megapixels.
Joel Richards
3 months ago |“dots” are the subpixels (it is marketing confusion–very frustrating–if manufacturers all published actual resolution they would have to be higher DPI). Sony uses an RBGW so multiply that .79 by 3 or 4.
Jason
3 months ago |Lots or whining and moaning here which is quite sad really. Look, if Sony is committed to the EVF and feels the need (yes!) to further the EVF technology not only i their bodies and accessories, but also drives the industry, then no whining and moaning is needed, Yes, there will be a body or two who just had the earlier technology, but you cant stop there just because of that. They must push the envelop and release bigger and better EVFs for future cameras and perhaps one day can replace the OVF with something that looks and acts as real as possible.
My only wish is that the EVF surface could be increased about 30-40% to match that of a FF OVF field off view.
a900andanex5
3 months ago |For me; it was already a disappointment that A99 hadn’t bothered to improve the viewfinder from the cheaper model. As well as the sensor, one of the main things I love about my A900 is the top of the line viewfinder, which I find much more usable outdoors than my A77. (mainly because of my glasses)
If the A99 had had an improved viewfinder with the 9-series EVF I was hoping would compete against my 9-series OVF, THEN I WOULD HAVE BOUGHT ONE!
I can’t speak for others; but for me; hearing that a better viewfinder was so close to being ready and yet wasn’t implemented in the A99, is a disappointment. And knowing that a better viewfinder now exists, (if the rumour is true), makes me less likely to now buy the A99.
This all seems bad timing for marketing: the A99 will be superceeded in this area after only a few months and yet we’ll have to wait maybe a couple of years to see another fullframe A-mount camera that even catches up.
alonzo
3 months ago |And they forget to say ,price is gonna up 60% as well . Sorry sony but you have to do much better camera if you want to sell it . 1/3 of stop do not kidding me !!!
New sensor ??? bla ,bla bla ,bla , I heard it many times . Hmm we see it in April ,so far nothing special change .
Helena
3 months ago |After all the hype with 7′s EVF, the reality was a little disappointing. A spectacular EVF, but not so far. Now maybe Sony can do things really well: a well balanced EVF and a fastest AF. In my opinion the AF speed is the lowest point in NEX lineup.