Amazon US: The NEX-7 gets more preorders than the A77!
I confess that I epxected the A77 to easily outsell the NEX-7. But if you take a look at the Amazon camera bestseller ranking (Click here) the NEX-7 body only sells better than the Sony A77 with 16-50mm lens! Sony never have been that close to become Number One!
Most sold cameras at Amazon (Click on the names to see the camera):
Position 3: Sony NEX-7 body only
Position 10: Sony A77 with 16-50mm lens
Position 12: Sony A77 body only
Position 16: Sony NEX-5N with 18-55mm lens
Position 22: Sony NEX-7 with 18-55mm lens
Position 28: Silver Sony NEX-5N with 18-55mm lens
Position 30: Sony A65 body only
Position 34: Sony NEX-5N body only
Position 36: Sony A65 with 18-55mm lens
Situation of the Amazon rankings do change hourly!
P.S.: Those are all preorder links I have now. Feel free to send me links if you find more stores!!!
Sony A77 with 16-50mm lens at Amazon (Click here), Jessops UK (Click here) and Sonystore (Click here).
Sony A77 body only at Amazon (Click here), Jessops UK (Click here) and Sonystore (Click here).
Sony A65 with 18-55mm lens at Amazon (Click here), Bhphoto (notification only), Jessops UK (Click here) and Sonystore (Click here).
Sony A65 body only at Amazon (Click here), Bhphoto (notification only), Jessops UK (Click here) and Sonystore (Click here).
Sony NEX-7 body only at Amazon (Click here), Jessops UK (Click here) and Sonystore (Click here).
Sony NEX-7 with 18-55mm lens at Amazon (Click here), BHphoto (notification only) and Sonystore (Click here).
Sony NEX-5N with 18-55mm lens at Amazon (Click here), Bhphoto (notification only), Jessops UK (Click here) and Sonystore (Click here).
Sony NEX-5N at Amazon (Click here), Bhphoto (notification only) and Sonystore (Click here).
Zeiss 24mm f/1.8 E-mount at Amazon (Click here), Bhphoto (notification only) and Sonystore (Click here).
Sony 50mm f/1.8 at BHphoto (notification only) and Sonystore (Click here).
Sony 55-210mm E-mount at Amazon (Click here), Bhphoto (notification only) and Sonystore (Click here).
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Joey C
9 months ago |Perhaps because if people wanted to spend that kind of money they would order a full frame camera for incrementally more money but there is NOTHING like the NEX-7 that comes close.
Also perhaps people have caught on that more megapixels doesn’t necessarily mean better photos, larger sensors do.
admin
9 months ago |+1
G700
9 months ago |NEX7+Kit lens bundle is at #21 too
so sales are split
matgay
9 months ago |2012 will be full frame NEX-9. Canikon dethroned.
Lonnie
9 months ago |As much as folks are talking about it, I really don’t think that’s physics and geometry are going to allow for a FF NEX.
Sky_walker
9 months ago |Well, Sony guys I spoken with told that it’s impossible to fit working full frame sensor in E-bayonet. But this could be just a smoke screen?
ajphotoimages
9 months ago |One can only hope so….
Dr. Tom
9 months ago |I thought it was stated on here that when the NEX camera first came out that Sony said a full frame sensor would fit in a NEX camera?
Sky_walker
9 months ago |Ok, I got the moment so I made visualization image. NEX5N high resolution image with it’s exact sensor size from specification was taken as a source of comparison. Standard full frame 36×2 was taken as target size.
Here’s the result: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/508/nex5nblackfront1.jpg/
Full Frame NEX wouldn’t work because elements of bayonet would cast shadows on the sensor edges.
Sorry. Looks like Sony guys were actually right.
Sahaja
9 months ago |If Sony want to make full frame cameras like the NEX there is no reason they have to be quite as small as the current NEX cameras or use the same E-mount. They could make them larger, and lenses for the larger full frame cameras could work on the smaller (E-mount) cameras using an adapter. Hopefully such full frame cameras would also still take M-mount lenses with an adapter. This would of course mean the cameras would need to have a shorter registration distance than Leica M-mount cameras (27.80 mm), but longer than Sony E-mount (18.00mm).
Lonnie
9 months ago |Same with the A77 Body only and A77 with the 16-50…
acolyte
9 months ago |Sound argument. Should I go for NEX 7 instead of A77? :p
Jonathan
9 months ago |+1
Robby Ticknor
9 months ago |I think for the a77, there are a lot of people like me that are waiting to see reviews of RAW image quality and final firmware ISO testing… If those two things are not substantially better, I’m waiting for the full frame a99.
There are a lot of good things about a77… but a few things i am not excited about.
Image quality is the key! low light is the key. More megapixels and 12fps are a gimmick — and if it hurts image quality or low light then the gimmick is not worth it. Time will tell…
JOSÉ MARIA
9 months ago |+1! The key is to take pictures! The rest of Sony’s technological showcase. “Image quality is the key! Low light is the key.” In a while, people do not remember that these machines take pictures. They will be used as a substitute for GPS, camcorders, telescopes, compasses,…. lol (in portuguese) wow…(in english)
Andrew
9 months ago |Agree, I myself is also waiting for a complete thorough in-depth review before I consider to purchase mine, it also didn’t surprise me that NEX7 is outselling A77. Nex7′s target audience are the common people who uses a camera as a day to day tool that they can bring wherever they feel to take a picture, while A77 on the other hand caters to people who takes photography as a very serious hobby and sometimes as a livelihood.
JB
9 months ago |+2
cyrus
9 months ago |+77
Poke
9 months ago |Completely agree. I have an 850 now and what I was hoping for is improved and faster focus, significantly improved high iso performance (850 sucks on high iso-way too much noise), and video capabilities. Sony has lagged behind Nikon and Canon on the high iso performance. Sony should know the MP is not the key to good image quality. Nikon blows away Sony with high iso performance with as little as 16 MP in a full frame sensor. If image quality is excellent and high iso performance is improved I am on board with the 77, if not I will have to wait and see if Sony can get it right with the next camera. And to the people who ask why high iso is important (3200 & 6400) try taking photos in a gymnasium or high school football under the lights. Image quality under all lighting conditions is the first and foremost. All other items are gravy. I am excited with the phase detection and video capabilities.
richard
9 months ago |Not suprise, NEX-7 is very unique camera, a77 is a over price. Since A55/A33 has a lot of problem mostly due to battery life and the low light was worst than NEX 3/5. So not suprise NEX seem a safer choice and more usable.
Sky_walker
9 months ago |Nex is more popular because Canikon people buy it as secondary camera
(it’s known that Nikon mirrorless will be crap from initial leaks, so all that’s left is NEX and m4/3, but if you want fun with F-bayonet lenses than it’s ONLY the NEX system being reasonable option – no competition sadly.)
It doesn’t say anything important really. Aside from the fact that people need more than one camera as it comes out ever since introduction of mirrorless systems.
Vlad
9 months ago |Well, that’s what makes it special – you can fit any lens on it.
Manxtt12
9 months ago |I wish amazon has the Nex-7 with black kit lens for preorder too.
G700
9 months ago |They do, it’s at #21 best selling
Cake
9 months ago |yeah, wish i could bought a Nex-7 if it was at 1200 $ …. FOR EUROPEANS TOO !!!!
Nico
9 months ago |+1
I really want to buy a Nex-7 and I certainly will, but I can’t imagine to pre-order a 1200 € ( more than $ 1730 !) camera without having pictures examples taken with final version, having an idea of the viewfinder or even seeing how the controls work !!??
Vlad
9 months ago |Just get it from the US.
Alfonso Cuitiño
9 months ago |Prices will drop as months go by, right?
Wing Wong
9 months ago |Presumption of price drop is based on assumption that the image quality will suck. The fact of the matter is that the NEX-7 and A77 use the same sensor. So the only difference is the 1/3 stop of light loss. That isn’t going to kill image quality.
I foresee some people removing the SLT mirror in favor of manual focusing, if they want the utmost in quality from their sensor… and if they are doing manual focusing anyways, that’s like getting the NEX-7 level of light throughput, but with the ergonomics of a DSLR body.
Question is whether focus peaking works with the SLT removed.
In either case, I doubt the price will drop. What I do see is that there will be shortages, as people start getting positive reviews and people start trying to get a body for themselves.
dk
9 months ago |No one in a right mind would do that. I’d rather switching. Well of course I don’t buy in those whole IQ argument and I dont peep pixel.
Vlad
9 months ago |Prices will drop a little and then will stay there for very long.
alphafan2011
9 months ago |its because of the bad iso performance of the A77 … the NEX7 should be little bit better because it has no transparent mirror and thats why more light
Almond
9 months ago |bullshit..
alphafan2011
9 months ago |why bullshit?
Wing Wong
9 months ago |Because the A77 and NEX7 have SAME sensor and thus same ISO performance. The SLT only detracts 1/3rd of a stop of light. That would impact image quality in ISO extremes, where there is little light, but will hardly be a factor in majority of the cases. Unless you are always shooting in those edge cases, it isn’t a differentiating issue.
Flash
9 months ago |1/3 of a stop and less additional distortion. Is seen as a bit of advantage by some Sony purchasers. I hope the A77 does well so their will be an A99 if just to see what it can do. I would not put to much stock in Amazon one day figures, as the Nex is more of an emotional purchase and the A77 is more of a calculated purchase to replace what one has.
Sky_walker
9 months ago |SLT mirror doesn’t make any distortions. It might however in some rare circumstances pronounce the purple fingering.
GH
9 months ago |Here is a good test of the SLT issues. http://thesybersite.com/sony/a55/index.htm#slt_mirror_image_quality
The mirror doesn’t do much to purple fringing, but it does take a half stop of light and hurt resolution a bit.
Sky_walker
9 months ago |GH – it depends on conditions and lens. As I said: It might however in some rare circumstances pronounce the purple fingering.
Almond
9 months ago |The A77 is targeted at the Alpha users.
The Nex is a universal sytem. No surprise it’s more popular.
Nico
9 months ago |exactly !
Almond
9 months ago |Also, there are two entries for A77 on Amazon. Body-only and kit. You have to add the two to get actual preorder figures.
Duncanario
9 months ago |Its not 1/3 of a stop. 50% light loss is one full stop. The a77 sensor loses 30% of the light due to the mirror, that’s more than half a stop
Robby Ticknor
9 months ago |+1
Wing Wong
9 months ago |I’m one of the A77+Lens pre-order’ers.
I’ll be more than happy to go with the A77 until the A99 comes out, then I see myself switching to FF with Sony SLT.
In my mind, if people are happy with 580/55 raw performance, the A77′s raw should be better. Judging from the difference in quality from the popphoto images(which is closer to final) than the other review sites images, I’ll give Sony the benefit of the doubt.
Worst case: I return the camera, or I resell it when the A99 comes out. Regardless of what happens, I gain the benefit of the A77 in the intervening time, as soon as it ships.
Stuart1701
9 months ago |The NEx 77 is showing at position 3 and 22, whereas the A77 is showing at 10 and 12. This suggests that people who want the a77 are fairly evenly divided between wanting body only and the new lens. The Nex 77 seems to suggest people prefer body only.
Without knowing the number of orders behind the positions, this information is meaningless. After all, adding the two options for each camera may show there are more A77 orders in total than Nex 7 ones, its just that the majority of Nex orders are body only
shade
9 months ago |A77 = professional camera. Those guys can easily wait until the cam is available before they order. They might also want to see real reviews instead of those previews that don’t say much about the real performance of the cam.
Nex7 = Camera-porn (lol, how this is literally true for the Nex7 with the new telezoom!). People don’t really need it, but the WAAAAAAAAANT it. There is no other reason than that if you pre-order month(s) in advance.
So, naturally, the Nex7 is ahead regarding pre-orders at that “state of release”.
HD
9 months ago |Same plan here! But a77 body only, I have enough lenses
Then a99 and Zeiss lenses here I come!
KingRenas
9 months ago |Still have there a lot of NEX-5 users who want to jump for a Pro version.
Those who use a different system like (Nikon, Canon, Leica, Sigma, Contax and so on..)and they tried NEX-5 in the past now they see their prayers heard at Sony when they request something more Pro feeling with more manual controls and a better grip rather than just a slim camera with a good picture quality.
That is the reason that NEX-7 will sell more than A-77, for me this is good because since now I’m on NEX models by the summer of next year we might see a full frame NEX model with G lens. yupee….
Mike
9 months ago |What about the 16-50mm alone? Would be a nice lens for the a700 – and cheap (600$)
Jimmy
9 months ago |Too bad we have to wait until November to use the Next-7.
Dan K
9 months ago |a few factors at play:
- Amazon at this time doesn’t have a very attractive kit for the NEX7, so most orders for that camera just want the body.
- a77 preorders, on the other hand, are fairly equally split between the body only and the 16-50 kit.
- I think a lot of people want to see more on how the 16-50 compares on IQ to other lenses they might already have (for example, the cz16-80) before they make a decision on that lens.
- a lot of people (myself included) might want to hold the a77 and a65 in their hands before they decide which one to snag.
It IS interesting to see the nex7 doing so well, but I don’t think you can read too much into one day’s worth of pre-order stats.
Eric
9 months ago |I wish I could tell all other camera companies “I told you so”. How many years have enthusiasts been begging for something like the NEX-7 and no one seemed to care? As shocking as it is not every photographer wants to carry a 2 lb camera in order to get good manual control and high image quality. Why did it take someone so long to create something to fill this niche? It’s as if they forgot cameras like the Contax G2 existed pre-digital.
Raul S.
9 months ago |I see a bunch of people here saying that other people is waiting for A77 reviews before spending a good amount of money on A77…or they’re saying that A77 sales are split..but NEX-7 are split also…
What’s REALLY happening here is that both NEX-5 and NEX-3 did so well, that they brought users from other brands (people using SLR from Canon, Nikon, Sony itself, etc.) for the very good results that they get with the APS-C in a small package…But Some people where holding or waiting for a NEX with more direct controls (more than what I could ask, because with the NEX-5 I got plenty of manual controls without menu diving) and/or a EVF…
Now that Sony released the NEX-7 with all those features, it’s obvious the NEX-7 is going to get more sales because it’s not only Sony users buying it, but also from other brands…And even people wanting a rangefinder style camera to use their Leica, Zeiss, Canon FL, etc etc etc, lenses on it…
dan
9 months ago |I had considered changing from the canon camp for the promising A77 but the feature gains vs the extra cost just doesn’t warrant the swap.
I think they have priced it too high particularly in the UK which is £440 more than America?????
I think they should have been aiming around the £1299 price if they wanted to tempt people to swap brand allegiances.
David
9 months ago |It’s more than America, but you can’t compare across borders
Lots of things are different prices in other countries. A beer is £6-8 in Norway. A bowl of noodles is 50p in Thailand. And while it may feel like a rip-off, it’s all relative to your own country.
Christian
9 months ago |@ Dan: use those £440 to fly to us. Round trip.
Christian
9 months ago |I thought I would preorder this camera as soon as will be available. Now I will wait to see the pics quality of a final firmware.
Whats bothering me based on spesc we know, why in the world they put one card slot only ?!?
When a 16gb card packed with pics will fail on you, you would wish would get the d7000 instead. (backs up your pics on 2nd card) Dumb sony , just dumb.
And now you should fill up your packets with batteries cause it takes less than 500 shots on one charge vs a550 rated at 1k.
Robby Ticknor
9 months ago |+1!!
I totally agree… have been wondering the same thing.
one memory slot… really??? i don’t get it. I use both slots on my a550 all the time.
Christian
9 months ago |I thought I would preorder this camera as soon as will be available. Now I will wait to see the pics quality of a final firmware.
Whats bothering me based on spesc we know, why in the world they put one card slot only ?!?
When a 16gb card packed with pics will fail on you, you would wish to get the d7000 instead. (backs up your pics on 2nd card) Dumb sony , just dumb.
And now you should fill up your packets with batteries cause it takes less than 500 shots on one charge vs a550 rated at 1k.
Christian
9 months ago |I think I wrote this post 3 times. My phone is playing games on me.admin If possible, delete 2 of them. Sorry.
DBFoto
9 months ago |wow it recognizes a smile… wow…
Vlad
9 months ago |It also has a GPS to tell you where that smile is!
T.J.
9 months ago |The NEX-7 is a perfect camera for the street photographer and the landscape artist. It may not be the best for weddings and I think many are ok with that. I love both cameras, but the NEX-7 with its infinite adapter capabilities and the amazing custom setting dials + EVF I couldn’t be more excited, I preordered mine no apprehensions. I’m glad sony finally entered the game. I just wish a review of the SLT adapter was around so I could figure out if I should preorder that as well.
nextonotning
9 months ago |No landscape artist will buy a camera with only +- 0.7 EV exposure bracketing. Neither will architecture photographers.
Jiri
9 months ago |The bracketing of NEX-7 is: 3 continuous exposures in 0.3 or 0.7 EV steps
nextonotning
9 months ago |Exactly, as I said +-0.7 EV. if you wan to see what serious bracketing options looks like – go look at the Pentax k-5. The Exposure bracketing of the NEX-7 is a joke, seriously.
Wheelus
9 months ago |The camera that is getting very little attention is hanging in there down in the 30s: the A65. Don’t overlook the A65!
cyrus
9 months ago |I think most people (including me) are taking it as A55 replacement…
But in term of price… It is much higher
(something like 1300$ vs 750$ here in Switzrland)
acolyte
9 months ago |As Almond said above, A77 has two entries.
As of now, here’s the rankings update,
3. Sony NEX-7 (same)
11. Sony A77VQ (down)
14. Sony NEX-5N /w 18-55 (up)
15. Sony A77 (down)
18. Sony NEX-7K/B (up)
That’s the 1-20. Not looking at ones after. Did people just pull out their preorders because it made A77 look too good to be true? :p
admin
9 months ago |LOL
Vromopodarix
9 months ago |This is why I hate Sony. I was about to get the EPL3 but now I must wait for the EPM1 so I can afford the NEX7 too.
Joking aside this is the first Sony I lust for ( I have the VG10 but I use it only professionally).
The way I see it is that it’s worse than the new Pens regarding focus speed and lenses but it is so right in many levels(manual controls, quality EVF. Unfortunately it means I will have to swallow the high euro price. It is not a professional toy the way my 7D and L glass is, it will not pay for itself. But it is desirable and that commands a price. These bastards at Sony know it well
startowa13
9 months ago |I’m getting NEX7 from Japan, no reason to wait in US
I love the A77 as well but I have a quality glass for NEX7 ready and I’m loving the freedom of having a small size camera with me all the time. Build in viewfinder does it for me too.
Vlad
9 months ago |Normally the japanese versions have their menus only in japanese, unless that has changed?
Terryfried
9 months ago |Does Japan use Pal or NTSC ?
Terryfried
9 months ago |OK everbody just checked it NTSC with is basicly America and Japan, most of the rest are Pal or SECAM.
AVESTA
9 months ago |Just like to get a rough idea of how many people on SAR have actually preordered the NEX-7 and in which country you’re in. If you could reply to this message that would be great. Thanks.
extra|ordinary
9 months ago |I preordered the nex-7 and zeiss 24/1.8 from amazon us.
AVESTA
9 months ago |I guess you’re the only one eh… heh
I got mine from the Sony website
Matthew
9 months ago |Ordered a Nex 7 with 18-55 kit lens today 9/10/11 from Sony Store.
GH
9 months ago |Nex-7 + kit zoom in U.S.
AVESTA
9 months ago |Cool… when did they tell you was gonna be the ETA?
extra|ordinary
9 months ago |Mine should be delivered tomorrow!
…just kidding of course. Unfortunately Amazon has not provided any eta. Fingers crossed that the camera arrives and ships sooner then expected. I’m not going to hold my breath however.
What I truly hope for, is that the nex7 and zeiss 24/1.8 are ready to ship at the same time. I’d hate to receive one before the other.
hiepphotog
9 months ago |Andrew, the Zeiss lens will be available in December, so they are not going to arrive at the same time. I pre ordered the same combo at Amazon.
AVESTA
9 months ago |The sony site said end of october for the camera when I ordered it.
Terryfried
9 months ago |Admin or anybody who can help. could someone get results for a memory test on A77 comparing “SanDisk Extreme® Pro™ SDHC™ UHS-I” (45MB/s) card with “Delkin Elite SDHC 633X UHS-I” Memory Card (95/80 MB/s). On Nikon d7000 there is no difference and doing similar test using CF on a Canon 7D also tops out at 45 MB/s. So I am interested if A77 can get to use the faster cards. After all the CF vs. SD arguments it turns out camera buffer and IO controller is more important than the speed of card.
Yucel
9 months ago |Hey Terryfried,
I’d like to know too.
I ran a bunch of these tests on the D7000.
In full res RAW, the D7000 memory buffer fills up after 10 shots.
The Delkins and Sandisk UHS-1 cards clear this buffer faster than Class 10 cards like the Sandisk Ultras for follow on shots. So, is useful…
Still,
in tests run on Class 6, 10 and on Delkin and Sandisk UHS-1 cards…
There is NO DIFFERENCE between these two UHS-1 cards on the D7000…
Delkin said but did not confirm it is a camera bus issue.
Wish I could get someone to buy my Delkin…
While the memory buffers fill up and empty at same rates with both these cards, the Sandisk Extreme Pros are a fraction of the Delkin price for NO performance increase on D7000 bodies.
To view testing results and methodologies check here: http://wp.me/p1acn0-wD
To buy my Delkin at a discount, email me, then I’ll buy a bigger cheaper Sandisk UHS-1 card… Thanks
Christopher
9 months ago |Don’t forget that Amazon sells a Silver NEX-5n with lens too, which is at no. 26 (Black w/ lens at 14, Black body at 37). The links here take you to the black one, and there’s no link to the silver color on that page. I also see that Sony offers a white NEX-5N on their website, but it doesn’t appear to be on Amazon yet. What do you guys think of the White NEX?
Robby Ticknor
9 months ago |Here is a link to an a77 hands on review with some IQ info.
http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/sony-dslta77-and-1650-f-28-ssm-handson-review_topic78985_page1.html
acolyte
9 months ago |Looking at the discussions, it seems Sony does strip a77 quite a bit in comparison to a700. If you wish to get a77, note that it’s not an exact ‘upgrade’ like if you buy a computer with a higher specs. It’s more like an upgrade from single core to dual core – different stuff, doing things differently. But the target market is the same.
Functional wise, you can’t expect a one-to-one match that everything that exist in a700 exists in a77 or better, but it’s definitely a breakthrough, that you can’t argue.
Meanwhile, I’m sure there are still used a700 sellers out there
Get yours while you can! While I’m sure a77 will be amazing, a700 may just suit your needs, if you don’t mind the old model 
Pavel
9 months ago |Any words about peaking mode in nex-7?
OTTO
9 months ago |Rank 13: NEX 7 with kit lens – Amazon is saying “touchscreen” – a typo ??
Rob
9 months ago |Hmm, thinking about the A99, for me that would just be…amazing.
But. big but. Every single one of my lenses from sony are DT. It would be the exact same as investing in a new, expensive system. FML.
My god I hope the A77′s high ISO is decent, because the a99 + FF lenses will be waaaaaaaaay out of my budget for sure xD
acolyte
9 months ago |Same thoughts. Even though I have a couple of FF lenses, those Zeiss and Gs are not within my budget :\
G700
9 months ago |A99 will cost 2499$ I’d say and current 24-70mm F2.8 CZ cost 1600$
So that’s +4000$ for similar setup or just get A77+16-50mm F2.8 for 2000$ (or A65 24MP sensor with 16-50mm F2.8 for 1600$
1600$ for crop sensor vs 4100$ for FF which takes forever to release an upgrade
acolyte
9 months ago |A99 for 2499$ will be pushing it too much. Doesn’t A77 cost more than the initial release of A700? I would expect A99 cost more than A77 too, especially if they try a new sensor. They won’t put a 24.3MP APS-C sensor in A99 right? Hence new technology, hence pricey.
Poke
9 months ago |If image quality is great and high iso performance is equal to present nikon full frames I would buy that in a heartbeat. I would expect more near 3k. I just want them to build a great camera.
hanugro
9 months ago |A900 cost $2999 when release. I think Sony will make 2 FF dSLT bodies that cost $1799 and $2499 sounds about right. The saving from mirror box alone can reach $500.
poke
9 months ago |Any idea of a release date for the 99? I waited what seems like forever for the 77, I don’t know if I can another year for the 99, but I am having concerns about high iso performance.
calxn
9 months ago |Added my name to the preorder for both cameras. There is 2 more months before I have to decide on either one or none. I don’t need another camera, but these two have such fantastic specs, and the a55 that I had for awhile was such a blast to use (except for the ghosting).
Gene Stoesser
9 months ago |If the A77 had been in the $1600-$1800 range they would be selling a lot faster. Most of us expected the body to be around $1200.00. Lens and a77 for $2000.00 is just a deal breaker for most of us.
Sell it for the same price as the nex7 and watch it sell.
calxn
9 months ago |Wow, Sony customers are truly cheapskates. Canon sell millions of 7D and Nikon sell millions of D300s, all in the same price range or higher than the a77.
acolyte
9 months ago |Imma put a random question here that I’m sure has been answered before. For burst, does that mean you can only burst for less than 2 secs, even if you’re using JPEG? o_O (Burst Buffer: 17 shots)
I just looked at dpreview and A700 didn’t have a limit. Then at imaging-resource which says for JPEG is about 21 seconds clearing time. a second of shot then you wait for 21 seconds? o_O I use bursts a lot (fireworks, dances, sports), so that’d be one that I worry about T_T
David
9 months ago |Yes, but the buffer clears VERY fast
There’s a video of an asian guy doing bursts, and he lets off a long burst, then a pause, then another. And there’s no sign of slowdown
The sony guy yesterday said they optimised it for the way people shoot. You don’t normally do bursts for more than 1-2 seconds anyway. People do bursts around periods of action, rather than continuous firing.
And the a77 is more than sufficient for doing bursts of shots around periods of activity. The buffer clears fast so there shouldn’t be much delay.
acolyte
9 months ago |Yay thanks! That eases my worry!
It would be nice if you have the link around o_O But at least a77 is back up on the top of my wishlist
gary Dalton
9 months ago |Amazon US price $1999.99 with kit lens, then why oh why is it £1669.99 in the UK when with the current exchange rate US price = £1219? Come on Sony! I started DSLR photography the sony way with an A300 and bought lots of lenses and have moved to A55, when most go the Canon/Nikon route. Please surely Loyalty deserves some Loyalty!!!?
Ollder
9 months ago |So???
Ollder
9 months ago |Meaning: I’m gonna buy one model of camera, thousands of people are gonna buy some other camera (and most people no camera at all). So what?
acolyte
9 months ago |Replying to a poster or to the original post?
Frosti7
9 months ago |LOL! in Imaging resource samples, the nex-5n DESTROYS a77, especially at high-Iso
http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM
Frosti7
9 months ago |Especially at ISO 3200
ScottD
9 months ago |I am inching towards the 5N. It just seems like a nice cam, the images I have seen are eye popping.
ageha
9 months ago |Me too, also I like to have a touch focus feature. I hope the 5N has it.
Poke
9 months ago |That is sad. I am hoping that is preproduction otherwise the 77 is a dog.
kingrenas
9 months ago |Unfortunately still no NEX-7 tests and that is the camera that I want.
Jennzhen
9 months ago |Even at launching events, Sony did not provide a “working” prototype of NEX-7 … so I guess it’s not ready yet.
Christian
9 months ago |I thought I would preorder this camera as soon as will be available. Now I will wait to see the pics quality of a final firmware.
Whats bothering me based on spesc we know, why in the world they put one card slot only ?!?
When a 16gb card packed with pics will fail on you, you would wish would get the d7000 instead. (backs up your pics on 2nd card) Dumb sony , just dumb.
And now you should fill up your packets with batteries cause it takes less than 500 shots on one charge vs a550 rated at 1k.
acolyte
9 months ago |Space constraints with the design? There may be even a CF slot in one of the early prototypes. But I only use CF in my a700 and I just switch it when it runs out
I took 6,000 shots one day and it works well 
(6,000? yeah.. dance competition.. and my first time shootin’ it..)
Nothing’s perfect =) How many cameras out there backs up on second slot?
How many cameras out there allows for 2 card slots? A number, but not always~
Peter
9 months ago |http://www.fotomagazin.de/test_technik/testbilder/detail.php?objectID=5412
Here is the ISO test for the new firmware v1.0 for A77.
Christian
9 months ago |Hmm.. How many cameras out there shot 24mp at 12fps ?
If one buys the new a77 better train to reload like this guy does:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1drgmqqyuQ&feature=related
I suspect Sony will realize their mistake, and will release the new a78, with 2 card slots, better battery life, tethering and other little features that people are crying for.
Same as they did with a550 vs a580
Boo
9 months ago |Where to pre-order a White Nex-5N?
Christopher
9 months ago |You can pre-order one on Sony’s site:
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666375215
Christopher
9 months ago |The other sites (Amazon, Adorama, BH) don’t seem to offer the white.
hanugro
9 months ago |Most people own A700 will wait and see, I guess. Ppl own A850/900 will wait for FF release. Most ppl in above category will want to be able to try first before buying.
Those who pre-order A77 may be the one who wants to update from A33-55 and those using older dSLR like A100-A550.
Some ppl like me will wait until Sony release FF dSLT before deciding.
All in all, Nex-7 has wider audience (not only those who owns a-mount).
TophBoogie
9 months ago |I’m an audio guy, looking to get a decent camera to learn and expand on so I’m picking the NEX 5N. I love this site and have enjoyed reading all the comments in the past week leading up to the announcement!
Alpha Mark
9 months ago |Not me, I am an A700 owner, but I cannot wait…will get the A77 body since I got most of the FF lense except 85ZA. Can’t wait to test the new 24mpx on 24-70 ZA.
acolyte
9 months ago |Hee…
Nex7 down from rank 3 to rank 4.. BUT. NEX7 kit up from 18 to 11. Ha.
emarsh
9 months ago |When you compare the ‘still life’ iso 3200 on imaging resource,the nex 3 and the a77 are a spitting image of each other, except of course for the higher resolution of the a77, so the image is bigger. I see that the colors, noise reduction pattern, detail is virtually identical. Check it out at imaging resource on their ‘comparometer’. So, could Sony just temporarily be using the nex-3 jpeg engine until they finalize the a77? Do they do things like that with pre-production cameras? It really is uncanny the similarities of the images from nex-3 and a77 there.
pancanikonpus
9 months ago |Admin,
EOSHD have publish nex5n kill D7000 thread, nice comparison
Alpha Mark
9 months ago |There are A77 firmware 1.0 sample from below link…as far as I can see its a noticable better in ISO. Allsamples in dprview are on firmware 0.5x
http://www.fotomagazin.de/test_technik/testbilder/detail.php?objectID=5412
Christian
9 months ago |Andrea, do you have any idean when the A77 will hit Switzerland? Have you heard of any possibilities to preorder the A77 here?
admin
9 months ago |No idea!
Christian
9 months ago |Found something here… three shops already offer it:
http://www.toppreise.ch/prod_241807.html
CHF 1338 body only, 1903 with 16-50 kit lens
This will let me think about buying in Germany
Joey C
9 months ago |I’m thinking the sweet spot would be the a65 with the 16-50 if they bundled it and gave a discount on the lens.
$899 body a65
$600 lens 16-50
$125 for a 70-210 minolta beercan off ebay
Done (for now)