RX100 for $599. And my wishlist for the RX10
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Somebody asked me about the RX10 specs. I have no info yet about it. Will try to digg into it with my sources. The RX1 is a luxurious expensive camera, the RX100 is a pocketable cameras. If you ask me I would like to have the perfect mix between the two. A High image quality sensor in a compact size. The best would be to use a fixed, compact and high quality f/2.0 prime lens. Something similar exists already, ti’s called Fuji X100 
What’s your perfect RX10?
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derdide
6 months ago |What I’d like for the RX10 – without any clue on optical feasibility – is an APS-C sensor paired with a 24-70/2.8 zoom (or even lower range as long as max. aperture stays below 2.8) with similar RX form factor (ideally with Nex6′s EVF) at max. 1200 USD.
John Maverick
6 months ago |24-70/2.8 to cover APS-C image circle is a very large lens. I don’t think you would want it if you saw it.
lorenzino
6 months ago |Admin,
I think there is a reason why the RX100 is selling much more than the Fuji X100. Yes, the Fuji costs more, but the IQ is better, despite the sensor being older.
The fact is that the Sony covers a decent (though not optimal) range with its zoom lens, while the Fuji prime is, well, a prime. Pros and very dedicated photogs may like fixed primes, but I, for instance, would never buy an expensive fixed-prime camera. For the reason that the ranges I use the most (usually 15-18mm FF equivalent wide-angles, but also 1:1 macros) are never those selected for fixed-lens cameras.
I personally would really appreciate an RX100-like camera with a similar zoom (2.8-4 would be great) and APSC sensor.
For the wide-wide angles I would keep on using the reflex and the mirrorless offerings…
Almazar80
6 months ago |My RX10 would be the NEX-6, with faster focus, and a compact 24mm f2 with OSS. Come to think of it, the NEX-6 is already a great camera, so give us some compact primes of high quality and we’re off and running.
Olaf
6 months ago |Was about so send my wishlist. Actually it’s the NEX-6 with a 17-70 F2.8 to F4 and 120p in HD. Would rather hope for a NEX with 120p and a good G Lens zoom.
SonyCyberPunk
6 months ago |I agree with the sad lens offerings as stated by everyone above.
Sony needs to spit these E mounts out now, dag nab it!
10-30 IS with fixed 2.8
30-50 IS with fixed 2.8
50-140 IS with fixed 2.8
15 1.4 IS
35 1.4 IS
55 1.4 IS
pjpo
6 months ago |-APS-C with 16-50 f/2.8-4. Have some amount of macro ability like the RX100.
-Get to 1/4000 sec. and ISO100
-won’t happen, but run on Android like upcoming Samsung NX.
- include a damn wall battery charger!
Doroga
6 months ago |Actually they need to do 3 of them:
Set of two cameras 30/2.0 & 18/2.8 fixes.
Third one with zoom, something like 16-85 2.8-4.0 PowerZoom.
Probably using RX100 sensor.
Javier
6 months ago |A fixed lens would be the normal option but as you say there are other options now.
A zoom lens oriente to street photography would be awesome
-16mpx APS-C sensor from the NEX series would do
-18-35 f2.8 zoom (28mm-55mm equivalent)F2 would be nice but f2.8 could keep size small
-EVF
-cable release
Perfect travel and street photography camera
Stailick
6 months ago |F2.8 is too big. Look at 16-50mm ssm designed for APSC.
RX1 no evf, RX100 no evf. I wouldnt expect RX10 have evf.
Mars Observer
6 months ago |- APS-C sized Sensor
- 48mm equiv. f2.0 fixed lens
- Same size or smaller body than the Sigma DP2
- .5, .75, and 2x conversion lenses
- hot shoe / accessory port
Stailick
6 months ago |I come here everyone might as well register.
A zoom would definitely make it more attractive for main stream photographers or amateurs.
Since it is badged as RX, lens is fixed.
However, it does not necessarily have an apsc sensor. And actually it will be better off to have an aps-h sensor to differentiate it from a NEX series with Zoom, and a X100, and to emphasize on its IQ.
They can do this because of the fixed lens – no need to develop a system of lens for it.
Additionally, the style should be fitted to the RX line – meaning no EVF, pocketable, and zeiss lens.
To recap,
- Short Zoom
- APS-H sensor
- Pocketable Zeiss lens.
With all this Sony should be able to price it slightly above NEX-7, maintaining the premium status and pocketability of the RX line.
Stailick
Stailick
6 months ago |everyday*
oskar
6 months ago |There is a reason those zooms doesn’t exist in any compact system. To stay compact i guess we need to choose between aperture and zoom length, we can’t have both. It’s a little bit easier with smaller sensors, but to my knowing, not even the m4\3 system, which is very well developed and has been around for quite a while now, not even it has any of the zooms mentioned above. Correct me if I’m wrong.
simon
6 months ago |no your absolutely right. some strange wishes on this list here.
guys you can’t have it all
Nounours
6 months ago |I agree that something like a 24-70 f2.8 on a APS-C compact is day dreaming.
But a retractable standard zoom lens with variable aperture similar to what’s on the RX100 should be achievable. It might have a bigger bulge than the RX100, but still smaller or equal at worst to the retractable NEX 16-50.
lorenzino
6 months ago |I am looking at the fuji 18-55 2.8-4. It is not exactly pocketable, but it is small enough, and in a fixed-lens camera it could be smaller and partially retractable into the body. It can be done.
Docbiker
6 months ago |Something along the lines of the Sony R1 – using an APS-C sensor, but coupled with a decent zoom lens (at least x5) – perhaps, like the R1, 24 – 120mm. Or perhaps with the RX100 sensor, but with a x10 lens! I can wish can’t I!
AllanT
6 months ago |Same sensor size as the RX100 but with 14mpx BSI-CMOS
Lens 25~125mm with F1.4~2.4
Better in my view from APS-C with with fixed F2.0 and probably same size
Terrance
6 months ago |How about something inspired by the CONTAX TVS III, except APS-C, same zoom @ f/2.8-4, and hybrid Optical/Electronic VF. I say this because this is the world best 35mm camera that fits in your pocket. HAVING A QUALITY CAMERA THAT CAN BE WITH YOU CONVENIENTLY AT ALL TIMES IS IMPORTANT. If RX10 doesn’t fit in you pocket then you may as well have a NEX camera.
barker
6 months ago |My Whishes for 2013 Christmas ? A Sony RXx with E mount and a new 16mm f/2.8 and a fast AF !
Artichoke
6 months ago |MY IDEAL RX10:
-APS-C or FULL SIZE SENSOR
-ZEISS ZOOM LENS–28-100 equivalent or actual
-Same size as RX1
-EVF unless it makes the camera larger; then an accessory attachment to hot shoe
-$1,500 – $3000 depending on sensor
-Reasonably priced accessories
Nounours
6 months ago |My ideal RX10 would have:
- Size between the RX1 and RX100.
- Similar retractable zoom lens as the RX100, but with OSS on it.
- Tilting screen
- APS-C sensor
- Accessory shoe
- GPS and wireless would be nice
- Battery charger
- Priced around $1200
I personally don’t really care for a built-in viewfinder. One is available as an accessory already and if I really would want one at the cost of making the unit larger, I probably should buy the NEX-6 instead. My opinion anyway.
Elaka Farmor ungen
6 months ago |Indeed, the RX10 will be one of the most interesting cameras next year.
I guess APS-C sensor. Zoom or not, thats the next question.
Xspider
6 months ago |How about an APS-C with a Tri-Elmar like 21-35-50 Lens…
Cyrus
6 months ago |What the interest of an RX10???
When you you have a Nex System???
Xspider
6 months ago |Because you can have an even smaller Camera and the Lens can be perfectly built for the Sensor/Camera!
Gregory Lemieux
6 months ago |Exactly!
Compact, high quality glass in a compact body with a big sensor is the name of the game here.
Did I mention compact? Also, compact size is important.
;P
Cyrus
6 months ago |Hard to make it much smaller with already 18mm flange distance.
You need it it with fixed Lens?
Take a Nex5x + 35/1.8
And you have excellent compact hight quality affordable System.
You need it with zoom?
Take Nex5x + 1650PZ
you need same thing with EVF?
Replace Nex5 with Nex6
Sorry… But could not agree with an RX10 interest.
Vlad
6 months ago |I believe RX1 has even shorter flange distance, so it should be possible. Any of the combinations you present will set you back roughly the same money as the guesstimated price of a RX10. So, if we have a nicely designed camera with good controls and optimized sensor-lens combo, it is easier to see how it will appeal to people that are ok with using whatever focal length the camera provides.
Maxwell
6 months ago |RX10:
APS-C sensor size and a collapsible 16-50mm constant F2.8 lens.
In camera EVF also.
Price: Below $1200
Nounours
6 months ago |The RX100 is much thinner than the options you’ve enumerated, offers a Zeiss quality zoom lens that starts at f/1.8 in wide mode (compared to f/3.5 on the NEX 16-50), adds a on-lens control, power zoom and shares the same menu system as the Alpha line, which many prefers, all together in a package that fits in a jeans pocket for $600 street price.
Personally, I see a reason for the RX to coexist alongside the NEX line and since there’s already a 1″ and a fullframe sensor version, why not offer one in APS-C? More choice is always good in my book.
Nounours
6 months ago |Sorry, this was meant to be a reply to Cyrus post.
Gregory Lemieux
6 months ago |- Compact RX styling (somewhere between RX1 and 100 in size).
- Fixed Zeiss 35mm, F/2 (maybe short zoom if the short FL end can be kept below F/2, but I don’t shoot zoom much).
- Manual controls akin to RX1.
- APS-C sensor (to keep cost and size between RX1 and 100).
- Compact!
- < $2000 (Ideally closer to $1000).
I'm really excited by the RX lineup. It really appeals to my desires, and I'm thinking to others as well. Very good glass in front of big sensors (for the given market segment), in a very compact body. I'm the type of consumer that probably isn't going to become an enthusiast with a lineup of different lens so sacrificing interchangeability for compactness is no sin in my eyes.
Gregory Lemieux
6 months ago |Oops, forgot to convert for the crop factor. I meant 24mm F/1.4 (or short zoom starting there).
mb
6 months ago |and what about an RX200 , it will be a good compromise ´ with tilt screen ans lens sparting at 24, with an evf , and a good grip
taht perfect for me
Incessant Troll
6 months ago |if it is apsc, power zoom f3.5 16-35 but sharp
Terri
6 months ago |RX100 $568 is Australia and Hong Kong
kona_moon
6 months ago |Everybody is guessing APS-C size sensor, which is logical, but I’m gonna guess MFT size to keep the lens and the whole package small.
Besides, NEX-series covers the APS-C.
Lens-wise, fixed zoom around 28-75mm equiv., bright around f/2.8, collapsing but not entirely into the body.
$1500 range.
Robert
6 months ago |EVF
Excellent 24mm lens matched to sensor
APS-C
Better IQ than Fuji X-100
Don’t give a hang for video
I’d pay $1500
Michael
6 months ago |RX5 50mm FF
RX35 RX50 1 inch pocketable 35 & 50 equivalent
RX200 1 inch pocketable 70-200 equivalent
darrask
6 months ago |Wishlist for RX10:
APS-C sensor, 12 MP (not possible for Sony though)
moderate zoom: 24-50mm equivalent, F2.0
Vlad
6 months ago |Exactly! +1
lorenzino
6 months ago |all ok, but f. 2.0 would make a very big lens, despite the focal range not being excessive. f. 2.8-4 could be almost pocketable. And I would be in… (ok, I would also appreciate more mp and top-notch IQ…)
Kevin
6 months ago |Well, right in between the 1″ sensor of the RX100 and FF sensor of the RX1 is the APS-C sensor, probably that of the A77. Obvious. Less obvious is what to do about a lens. The RX1 and RX100 are general purpose cameras with obvious lens choices, and I think there is room for another exciting niche camera that nobody else seems to be making; a UWA compact. I wonder how small a 10mm prime lens can be made for an APS-C compact?
lorenzino
6 months ago |a “compact” Hasselblad swc… Well, if the lens were comparable to the mythical Zeiss Biogon, I would spend whatever for it…
MdB
6 months ago |I seriously doubt any real plans for an RX10 with APS-C sensor. The RX100 has good enough IQ and with a good but small zoom lens. The RX1 is full frame with prime lens. An RX10 would either be slow zoom lens or prime, in either case it won’t be better than an RX100 or RX1. Look at the Canon G1X, better sensor than RX100 but slow zoom means RX100 outperforms it.
I would prefer to see an updated RX100 with optional EVF with Hotshoe and a little bit faster lens especially at the long end. Maybe f1.4-3.5 or something, around f2 at 60 equiv. It can be a little bit bigger, but only as much as it absolutely needs to be.
Weakling
6 months ago |RX10 = RX100 + tilting screen + 24mm at the wide end + PDAF pixels + 1/4000 shutter speed.
AC
6 months ago |Guy and girls – Let’s not forget Sony also makes great M4/3 sensors (e.g. OM-D). So if a zoom on their APS-C is too big to be pocketable, there is no reason why they can’t use the M4/3 sensors especially now they are the largest shareholder Olympus and said explicitly they will cooperate on compact cams.
Ace
6 months ago |I think many of you missed a trick here. Sony is now the largest shareholder of Olympus and said explicitly they will cooperate on compact cams. So if a zoom on an APS-C is too large, they can simply go with a M4/3 sensor like the one they make for OM-D. Done.
Danonino
6 months ago |1: Aps-c new low noise 24mp sensor. 16mm/2.0 – 35mm/2.8 fixed zoom.(24-50mm eq)- all you could ever need.
2: Aps-c new low noise 24mp sensor. 28mm/2.0 fixed prime (42mm equivalent) All you could ever need.
Stefan
6 months ago |I’d really like to see a small pocketable cam like the RX1 for a much lower price with APS-C or mFT sized sensor. My father still owns a Rollei 35 which is fullframe and even smaller than the RX1. A digital APS-C equivalent to this incredible cam would be very welcome and is exactly what I would like to see under the RX10 label.
tomtom
6 months ago |RX110 anyone?
RX100 with extending 15mm f1.2 prime lens (42mm wide normal 35mm equivalent).
Such a lens is very small. This would be a cheaper camera to produce, maybe sell for $550.
James
6 months ago |If they could make a rx100 with sharper fixed lens and a 4/3 sensor without making it much bigger, I’d totally buy into that. (ie. 20mm f1.7 + pm2 sensor in a RX-body)
John
6 months ago |Nice wish lists ! Dear Admin, is there any chance we see the RX10 in Jan (CES) ?
Thanks for your great infos and merry X-Mas !