Sony financial news roundup (E-mount sales increased!)
The financial result of the Sony Imaging business
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Sony issued the latest financial report and you can read more about it at Bloomberg. And Bloomberg’s title says it all “Sony’s Hirai Sells Property Instead of TVs as Revival Stalls”. The TV business is still the main problem of Sony but also the other businesses aren’t doing well. That’s why Sony is selling some of their buildings to make some cash. While this may help for a short time they really need to change their product strategy to succeed in the long term.
Talking about the camera business. You can read more about that business under the “Imaging Products & Solutions (IP&S)” section on that pdf (download here): “Sales decreased 4.7% year-on-year (a 9% decrease on a constant currency basis) to 180.5 billion yen (2,075 million U.S. dollars). This decrease was primarily due to a significant decrease in unit sales of compact digital cameras reflecting a contraction of the low-end of the market resulting from the popularization of smartphones as well as a significant decrease in sales of broadcast- and professional-use products. Sales of interchangeable single-lens cameras increased significantly year-on-year.”
You will see form those three lines how important the NEX system is for Sony and why Sony decided to push the NEX-FF development instead of releasing another SLT-FF yet.
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P.S.: Sony to Focus on Image Sensors (Image Sensor World).
Le Star
4 months ago |“Sales of interchangeable single-lens cameras increased significantly year-on-year.”
To me, the term ‘Single Lens’ means DSLT & DSLR, not Compact System Cameras, so I would like to see a clarification, and if necessary a breakdown of DSLR/T and CSC sales.
Regardless, the camera division continues to make a loss. Sony needs to rid itself of needless divisions and focus on just a few. I suggest it gets rid of Sony Music, its TV channels, and Sony Creative Software for starters. Maybe even its film studio.
calxn
4 months ago |Nope, we all know nobody except a few wackos are buying the DSLT crap. For DSLR/DSLT, no one is leaving Canikon’s awesome lens and accessory lineup for that miniscule Alpha mount lens lineup that lacks all the good Zeiss available to Canikon.
NEX is now pretty much the camera’s division only hope. Too bad they didn’t put more effort into it over the last 2 years instead of making clones of their Alpha DSLTs that no one buys.
I recommend Sony dump their DSLT immediately. Also dump all P&S except RX100 type cameras… while they still sell. Focus all efforts on NEX. Camera divisions at all companies are going to get smaller and smaller, even at Canikon. Either focus on the profitable or disappear all together. P&S most likely losing money and accelerating. Alpha is most definitely a massive money pit.
Michele
4 months ago |Calxn, clearly you don’t know what you’re talking about! Finance and cameras/lenses are not really your business.
“…miniscule Alpha mount lens lineup that lacks all the good Zeiss available to Canikon…”
A 16/35 and a 24/70 Zeiss (only) can beat your CaNikon Zeiss anytime, without talking about the 135 and the 85.
Look around and be less CaNikon troll stuck up.
Steve
4 months ago |Michele,
After reading your post I’m sure you will call me a troll but as a wee known Sony fanboy and as someone who owns all of the five full-frame Zeiss/Sony lenses except the 24mm prime and still shoot the a850 as my primary production camera it no longer true what you are claiming.
Over the last few years the optical advantages Sony had with 85, 24-70 and the 16-35 has been lost to time. Nikon has released several excellent primes and Canon recent 24-70 and 70-200 are very good.
When I purchased the 85 and 135 back in 2006 both were considered the best of breed and the same could be said in 2009 when I got the 16-35 and the 24-70. Now the competition has caught up as I see it with all of them except the 135/f1.8
Sony needs to refresh these and other lenses with motors to replace the screw drives and sealing to make them even more dust/moisture proof something I expect to see in the new Zeiss/Sony 50 coming out in a few months.
None of the manufactures have the best lens in all of the focal lengths, but sadly Sony has lost some of its advantage over that last few years.
FWP
4 months ago |Steve you’re right. Suddenly all your zeiss full-frame lenses just SUCK and must be updated! I am a professional Sony user with plenty of FF glass as well, and I personally am completely satisfied with the lens lineup for A-mount. I think its silly to get jealous of my canikon counterparts every time a new lens comes out for their cameras that I don’t have. Sony has not lost their primary advantages including in-body stabilization, Zeiss with AF, EVF, etc- these unique features are the reason to shoot Sony, if you don’t like them, then you might as well switch to Canon and Nikon (and then I guess we’ll see you back with Sony whenever they come out with a TEENSY BIT sharper 24-70 right?)
Lego
4 months ago |Indeed!
WTH
4 months ago |Sony should have focused on their Point & Shoots instead of the E-Mounts.
Nikon and Canon has caught up over the years…
Roland Speckman
4 months ago |“A 16/35 and a 24/70 Zeiss (only) can beat your CaNikon Zeiss anytime…”
Haha, on which planet, Michelle?
Leave the comedy to professionals, please.
LensIsAll
4 months ago |clueless or just troll?
Frank
4 months ago |Another one that thinks people are clueless or trolling just because they have a differing opinion. I guess you favour censoring those that disgree with you, perhaps living in China would suit you better.
LensIsAll
4 months ago |It’s not a matter of opinion, it’s a matter of facts that can be measured in laboratory.
If it’s just an opinion for you then we have nothing to discuss as obviously you are equally blind-folded by CaNikon marketing machine.
CTPhotographX.com
4 months ago |True dat. +10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000. sony fanboys are the dumbest..they forgot about what happended to minolta. lol
Hendrick
4 months ago |Le Star, you are wrong, read the pdf and see that Music, Pictures and Financial services are all making money.
calxn, you are ignorant because Canon/Nikon users are not the only market in existence.
Le Star
4 months ago |“Music, Pictures and Financial services are all making money.”
these are not Sony’s core business. Electronics is their core business. Maybe they should leave the electronics business and move solely into entertainment… As calxn says: “focus on the profitable”
Sony lost the ball by plunging its fingers into too many irrelevant pies. And now those fingers have been badly burned.
LensIsAll
4 months ago |Sony music business is actually one of it’s cores.
CTPhotographX.com
4 months ago |Repeat after me..sonys been losing money since 2008. You’re trying too hard to keep your desk job at sony , kid. Get ready for the sony pink slip.
LensIsAll
4 months ago |Sony’s been loosing money since 2008, yes, but not on cameras. Basically in Sony Imaging only part that’s been loosing money are P&S compacts.
And FYI I’m not working at Sony. No clue how did you came out with crap like that.
Stan
4 months ago |That response looks awfully familiar. Looks like that “Bart” guy in a few threads about a week ago….
andrew
4 months ago |“Sales of interchangeable single-lens cameras increased significantly year-on-year” – presumably that’s both mounts?
Hendrick
4 months ago |It is both mounts because the financial report is not dividing the imaging section into more sections so this part is all camera sales (including the compact cyber shots which are described as decreasing sales because of smart phone preference by many customers) As soon as cybershot is focused on RX only bodies they will then see a market emerging rather than diluting because those sales are strong (according to Weir and Amazon which has the RX100 still as one of the top sold Sony cameras)
danny
4 months ago |I think with the release of 4K UHD and OLED TV’s, Sony will be back in business. But the competition is hard and they will have to keep pushing themselves.
With the new Xperia Z smartphone and Xperia Tablet Z they can do some damage to the competition.
We have seen some nice products come out lately in the camera division, RX100/RX1, new lenses for Nex and A-mount. But also here, the competition is very hard (Fuji/Canon/Nikon..).
I have trust in Sony, they make beautiful looking products and they innovate a lot. I maybe looking into buying some Sony shares.
FreeRadical09
4 months ago |This is what happens when you sleep in your glory and let your rivals overtake you. This is also what happens when you don’t listen to customers and don’t take helping hands…
My only concern right now is if they won’t pull another Minolta on us and ditch the photographic division altogether and leave us out in the cold.
I really don’t feel like spending all the money I’ve spent on Sony gear again on a different brand.
Get your act together, Sony.
CTPhotographX.com
4 months ago |Get out while you can, or you will be minoltasized. All the maxxum users have already left..why are you still with them?
Stan
4 months ago |@CTPhotographX.com, or should I say “Bart”? You can change your name, but you’re still that same troll. Remember what I told you last time? Might be worth to look up those treads, cause that comment still applies.
Stan
4 months ago |Im a fanboy and im delusional and im a liar.
Fire1
4 months ago |Give me another FF camera Sony with XQD cards, and a dual processor. Then I will give you my money. Doesn’t matter EVF or OVF. Even SLT, but mirror less is preferred.
FWP
4 months ago |I take it you are a pro sports shooter? The only reason to jump to XQD and dual processors is primarily increased buffer right? Yes, yes, minor improvements in DR and such as well, but since you mentioned XQD slots, is that it? Do you want to be able to tell people your camera shoots 15fps only to discover that this feature will be (again, unless you shoot sports, bullets, etc) COMPLETELY USELESS
Emir
4 months ago |Why do you care so much about the processor ammount? You should care about the performance itself, not where it comes from…
Lucas
4 months ago |“Sales of interchangeable single-lens cameras increased significantly year-on-year.”
“You will see form those three lines how important the NEX system is for Sony and why Sony decided to push the NEX-FF instead of releasing another SLT-FF yet.”
Andrea…as others have already said, “interchangeable single-lens” is NOT only NEX! We all know you love them, but just try to be a bit less biased ( just kiddin’… )! I wonder how was 2012 Sony sales of DSLR’s and DSLT’s compared to 2011!
Tanglefoot
4 months ago |+1
Emir
4 months ago |+1
LensIsAll
4 months ago |+1
LensIsAll
4 months ago |Seeing how admin makes posts like that I’m not surprised how we’ve got so many NEX trolls around here.
Frank
4 months ago |Is that all you can say? Troll?
Emir
4 months ago |Not just NEX-trolls… but also alpha-doom prophecies… I’m rather believing in the Maya indians…
LensIsAll
4 months ago |Yea, well, pretty-much the same thing. Major occupation of NEX trolls is playing a prophets.
Stan
4 months ago |Just minolta porphecies. Read history, it did not end well for minolta. now they are interloping over at sony…even better. You can try and look cool and hip by not going with the crowd but sooner or later sony will abandon its A maxxum mount, you can bet on it…but if you are smart, you will go to a real dslr company, not walkman central.
CTPhotographX.com
4 months ago |He’s right dude, no ones leaving canikon for Sonyminolta. Sonys so good no pros use them, and i geuss you know more than most pros, eh? LOL
LensIsAll
4 months ago |See readers spotlight from roughly a week ago. Clearly there are people leaving Nikon or Canon for A-mount.
Frank
4 months ago |Yeah I can see the stampede for Sony SLT now…all those pro’s ditching their thousands worth of CaNikon gear…LMFAO
CTPhotographX.com
4 months ago |Sure kid…and im marry poppins.
LensIsAll
4 months ago |fail. How about doing some research before posting crap?
CTPhotographX.com
4 months ago |I do research.. its called what i see in the street. and i still see everyone using canikon dslrs, ps cameras and bridge cameras long before i see a sony alpha. your stats you read somehwere dont mean squat.
CTPhotographX.com
4 months ago |how about not lying and BS’ing before yo post sony fanboy comments here? We dont need more delusional folks in the world..we need LESS.
Lucas
4 months ago |…”Sonys so good no pros use them, and i geuss you know more than most pros, eh? LOL”…
I am a retired engineer, however I’ve been a photographer for about 40 years. I did/do Pro photography ( paid work )in several ways – I have my own studio, do weddings, events, old photos digital restoration, etc, when I feel like ( mostly for my own enjoyment ). I’ve had most Minolta and Sony SLRs/DSLRs/SLTs ( A900 and A99 currently ).I don’t think I know more than other pros or most enthusiasts, however I’ve been more and more noticing shooters with or interested in Sony cameras. Of course, it’s a good thing for Sony if they come from N/C or others, but mostly seem to be younger ones who unbiased research the market offerings and choose Sony…! Is that so difficult to understand?
CTPhotographX.com
4 months ago |ok, no so called still photography pros…except you. maybe your cicrle of friends are all going around with sonys…but that aint enough.
LensIsAll
4 months ago |wow, so now when someone comes in saying something that contradicts your point of view he is suddenly an “exception” ? We’re down to his level? seriously?
CTPhotographX.com
4 months ago |you got no one to blame for that level except yourself for your delusional sony fanboy views. look around you son, no one cares about sony no more, no one uses sony alpha, sept the few fanboys you see with them. its a lost cause, get over it.
Kevin
4 months ago |There’s far more consumer than pro anyways why go pro when there are some many dumb consumers. Apple has a lot of consumers, there not all pros.
CTPhotographX.com
4 months ago |but those fanboy consumers are not enough, and they will sooner or later wake up tot he fact that all sony does is price gouge ppl.
Kevin
4 months ago |This is Why Sony has been will always come back to consumer model camera, because they do drive there business. Some people just don’t have a clue. I’m not saying Sony should abandon Pro Gear. It’s just if Pros don’t buy there gear, then there’ll be no reason to make any. If Sony fails at selling Dslr type of gear. They’ll keep making sensors, because they do a fine job at doing it, other wise nobody would be buying them, and other companies by there sensors.
The trouble with identify what a consumer is going to buy next is knowing what a competitor is doing, and how consumers want it. Apple and the phone giants are killing camera sales, but Sony is making money of this operation, maybe not enough.
Sony fix a lot sensor problems a few years ago, but other manufacturers didn’t fix them, Sony did.
Sony gouge. What’s Apples excuse. They don’t even sell a moderate priced computer. Let only a affordable Phone. and proprietary? Apple is the biggest proprietary company selling electronics. Sony is Second, but close second. For the amount of Products that Apple sells they are more proprietary than Sony.
4k
4 months ago |“Moreover, by
adding to a range of 4K LCD TVs and launching a 4K distribution service in the U.S. in summer 2013, Sony
will further expand the ability of consumers to enjoy watching 4K video at home.”
This will translate to losses as 4K TV’s and 4K cameras are too expensive right now. And more bad movies “The development of franchise films with worldwide appeal, such as The Amazing
Spider-Man, which was highly successful during the current fiscal year, as well the sequel to The Smurfs
(scheduled for release in July 2013 in the U.S.), is a key area of focus for Sony’s motion picture production
business.” ugh, sounds terrible
Spoon
4 months ago |Nowhere in the text does it say that NEX did much better than the SLT’s. It woudln’t be surprising, but right now it remains an assumption. If memory serves me well, the same mistake was made last year when a similar report surfaced.
Jon
4 months ago |It’s clear that the strategy will be to accelerate in the RX100, RX1, NEX and Alpha SLT range. These are technologies that Sony are very good at, that should free up more R&D funds and specialist personnel to drive these technologies over the next 24 months. Point and shoot is now finally dead, However Sony does produce technologies which they sell to Phone manufactures, so that will continue. It’s going to be an interesting period, I expect smaller manufactures to be bought, so a period of market consolidation over the next 24 months.
Ario
4 months ago |IMHO Sony TV division is (one of) the hole that the company should deal with before the Sony ship sinks. However admitting that they have lost the battle to Samsung & LG (and then closing/ selling the division) is like loosing national pride. Now I’m really worried that Sony’s flexibility to develop and market the Alphas (A & E mount) will be limited even further. I had been using Alpha cameras since KM Dynax 5D (then A700, A550, A55 and now A77 – and planning to buy NEX-F3) and despite its limitation I like my experience with Sony cameras. I really hope that Sony will be able to turn their losses to profits in the upcoming year.
grant torres
4 months ago |Where does the touted Sony sensor division belong to here? How much do they add up to the profits? Toshiba is starting to eat Sony’s pie in Nikon’s table, or is that a good thing since Sony will have exclusivity to good sensors?
Carl
4 months ago |Sensors belong to the semiconductor division rather than the imaging division. I haven’t scoured the financial report, but I believe both are solidly in the black.
Wayne Summers
4 months ago |I would stop making point and shoots. I can’t believe I use to like those things.
hiray
4 months ago |unless sony (and others) go from 1/2.3″ sensors to 2/3″ sensors all point and shot cameras sales will fall in the next years to a level near zero, the low end basic models are practically stalled.
same as phones with music players bring stand alone portable music players to dismal sales (even the almighty ipod now is a shadow of the big one was)
if sony (and others) not rise the lower bar that entry cameras had now (and that had been surpassed by smartphones cameras) then sales will fall, a big fall.
sony is king of sensor as far as i know, it supplies almost every sensor other use, if they push 2/3 sensors to every model, they will push every other point and shot camera to follow, and making money cause they sale almost all sensors, and keeping the low point and shot camera alive for another while.
stick with 1/2.3 sensors and point and shot cameras will be a memory in the next years.
dont forget that nikon, canon, sony sold 3 point and shot cameras for each dslr, and that since last 2 years more smartphones were sold than cameras.
in fact cameras sales are falling, sales dont just stalled are falling hard, just see canon and nikon stocks, and sales forecast… its not just sony is everyone, 2/3 sensors or die.
Frank
4 months ago |Small sensor compacts are being squeezed by mobiles, SLT will never make Sony money. Larger sensor fixed lens and E-mount is where the money is and Sony know it.
I keep saying it, but people here have their head buried in the A-mount sandhill. Expect our larger Alpha bodies to have an E-mount with adpater.
LensIsAll
4 months ago |Clearly you are clueless with no slightest idea about Sony profits or situation on the market.
Frank
4 months ago |That’s right because Sony have been sooo successful in the dSLR market….oh wait….
LensIsAll
4 months ago |Well, they are more successful than Pentax, no doubt about that. So that’s quite an achievement in a world of blind-folded people who think that there are no other companies making cameras besides Canon and Nikon.
CTPhotographX.com
4 months ago |dude, anyone is more successful than….pentax. pentax is insignificant, been that for a while. and ppl know that other companies besides canikon make cameras…they just dont like them or buy them.
Kevin
4 months ago |People might have there heads buried in A mount heaven. That’s because they and I mean they, don’t want Sony nex system. I don’t like myself. I don’t like small thing period.
Aardvark7
4 months ago |Like so many stories, how it appears depends upon the spin put on it.
Bloomberg makes it sound almost like the death throes of Sony whereas, the other day, the BBC indicated it was the green shoots of recovery!
The simple truth is that it must be almost impossible for an electronics giant to keep making money year in, year out. Now is Apple’s time, but they almost went belly up not so long ago.
Technology moves so fast that it will be impossible to stay ahead of the game. As far as Sony is concerned, I’m sure they will remain a player and may yet surprise us all. Of course, that could depend upon what is the next ‘great thing’ in the minds of the consumer.
rick
4 months ago |Sony is still carrying a lot of debt, and its continued losses aren’t helping the situation. Sure its introduced a lot of great products that’s driving the success of Apple and Samsung like phones & tablets, but I’ve never seen one in use. I don’t know anyone that has bought anything Sony recently outside of a PS3 or a digicam. Its TV’s stopped being competitive years ago, I have an LG because it had everything Sony offered at a fraction of the price. People aren’t buying giant speaker/receiver home audio systems anymore, they’re buying ipod docks. DVD’s are on a massive downward slide and everyone else offers blu-ray players for far less than Sony. TV’s, home audio/video, tablets and phones are segments where Sony is a non-factor because it can’t compete on price.
Its laughable that Samsung can sell TV’s at a profit and Sony can’t. Its been a decade in the making, but Sony is just too big to get out of its own way. It was once an innovator, but the ipod was the beginning of the end for Sony. It took years for the digital Walkman to see the light, and it was DOA. For two decades the Walkman was what everyone called a portable cassette or CD player and almost overnight it was replaced in the lexicon by the ipod.
Now 5 years after the iphone Sony finally builds a decent phone and like its TV’s, its priced itself out of the market. I can get the Galaxy III for far less than the Sony phone, judging by revenues its pretty obvious which direction consumers are going. Console sales are tanking and a new – and more expensive PS4 is coming – yikes. Sony leadership seems to be stuck in the 90′s when people couldn’t get enough of its products and they were crushing everyone.
In the late 80′s and early 90′s there were companies like Zenith & RCA – who were huge industry players at one time – lagged behind Sony and are now gone. Samsung has beat Sony at its own game, feel like its only a matter of time before the profitable divisions are sold off and Sony disappears for good, since Sony doesn’t own enough property to get out from under the mountain of debt its sitting on and it can’t stop the bleeding.
Aardvark7
4 months ago |I think you have simplified the issues too much and some of your understanding is inaccurate.
The latest Sony TVs are bringing rave reviews and being voted best in class in many areas. Also you can buy their Blu-ray players for £60, so I’m not sure how many others come at ‘a fraction of the price’!
As to why the Samsung are cheaper has more to do with the economic set up in the host countries as much as anything else. I suspect that Samsung has its own mountain of debt too, as will all major corporations with the exception of Apple and Microsoft; it is in the nature of commerce.
Certainly, there has been a dramatic shift in consumer behaviour recently, which has caused issues for Sony. As to what shape the company will take in the future is anyone’s guess, but I’m pretty sure it will be around for a good time yet.
rick
4 months ago |Uh, no, read the financial reports. DVD player & disc sales are tanking, TV sales are slowing, PC sales are slowing, home audio sales are really dropping – all core components of Sony that are dragging down its bottom line and bleeding lots of red ink – the growth is tablets and smartphones and Sony is a complete afterthought in that arena because it refuses to engage in price wars and its not as nimble as a company like Samsung.
If it weren’t for the entertainment and imaging divisions it may have gone under years ago. Rave reviews don’t equal sales, especially when its surrounded by 10 other options in the store, with the same features for less. Sony is losing money hand over fist in many of its divisions and its drowning under a mountain of debt, $140 billion U.S. at the end of the last fiscal year and it hasn’t turned any sort of a profit in awhile.
Selling office buildings to create the appearance of smaller losses is an act of desperation. Until I see a real improvement I’m keeping my investment in Sony to a minimum – a used Nex5n with kit lens.
Simon T
4 months ago |Maybe Sony should just “dump” everything then we can just use a maker who has a long term plan, is consistent and reliable enough to want to buy their products.
FF NEX yawnsville Sony will probably charge £2000+ for it
Sony’s problem is they are not competitive because they’re profit gouging. A99 vastly overpriced in the EU (to the point you would switch systems), lens prices are ramped way up, they have some major gaps in the lens line up. And we’re supposed to buy the NEX concept? Really..with no IBIS that’s a fun prospect for A mount users, no viewfinders on half the models, and how much fun is mounting a 70-400mm G or 70-200mm f2.8 going to be on a NEX, quite absurd to say the least.
Couldn’t care less about soccer mom NEX crowd, start delivering to A mount customers whilst you still have some.
CTPhotographX.com
4 months ago |everybody knows that about sony except for the fanboys here and everybody has already left sonyminolta cameras to die.
LensIsAll
4 months ago |o_O must have a really difficult day today, huh? I pity you.
CTPhotographX.com
4 months ago |Clearly im out of line to pull the minolta name. I pitty you, fool, for belieivng in a company like sony. Dot try so hard to keep your job at sony..makes you look like a……fanboy…a lying fanboy.
Michele
4 months ago |Geeeee…. why is it so difficult to have people acting normal in blogs?
Michele
4 months ago |Geeeee…. why is it so difficult to have people acting normal in blogs?
Kevin
4 months ago |Sony Just like Apple no longer have there founder. Apple will not survive.
As for those who say a LG tv has everything that a Sony has, has got there head buried. Sony makes the finest electronics in the world. Apple’s game was the I phone. That came only because of phone contracts. Not because people where willing to spend money on a I phone. The I pad is logical for those who don’t need the power of a computer nor the storage of a computer drive. This is a rumor site and the rumors run wild. I commented on the update for the A77. The Camera now flashes Alpha logo at start up after days of use.
CTPhotographX.com
4 months ago |Sonys going to die, and hopefully take its dumb lying fanboys with them. And with Minolta help, they are sure to go under. too many lazy greedy execs who do nothing at sony but think of new gimmicks to gouge ppl out of their money, the world is full of suckers, but not enough suckers for sony anymore. Bye bye sony.
Stan
4 months ago |@CTPhotographX.com, or should I say “Bart”? You can change your name, but you’re still that same troll. Remember what I told you last time? Might be worth to look up those treads, cause that comment still applies.
Kevin
4 months ago |maybe your next.
Stan
4 months ago |I just don’t get it, do you really have nothing better to do with your life than to come here and try to piss off everyone? Whats the point in posting inflammatory comments? Why are you sitting on a Sony board if you don’t own any Sony equipment (with those comments, i’m 100% sure of it), not planning on buying it and generally don’t care about anything Sony. I spend my time with my GF rather than sitting on a Canikon board, trying to piss off everyone. Maybe you should grow some pubuc hair and try to do the same….
Stan
4 months ago |Im a lying fanboy and i’m proud of it.
Kevin
4 months ago |If anybody wants to know I was referring ctphotographx what every that means.
Stan
4 months ago |Same here
Stan
4 months ago |yeah these trolls piss me off, i hate it when ppl call me out on my sony fanboy behaviour, makes me lok childish..which iam, but still, only sony fanboys allowed here. LOL
Kevin
4 months ago |I’d like to ask Frank what’s the beef with Sony? I seen some of your work, nice, but dark and moody? Is this why your so negative about Sony? Is it your work that driving you to be this negative? It shows in your work! This my two cents even though it’s five dollars now.
Kevin…Being Frank.