Sony NEX-7 full size samples and A77 and 16-50mm lens review.
There is a new set of nice full size image samples taken with the NEX-7 and the Zeiss 24mm f/1.8 lens. You can see them here: http://www.flickr.com/groups/nex7/discuss/72157627615393769/ Thanks Andrew and NEX-7 group for sending me the link! The images you see have been processed with Capture ONE 6.3. I like them a lot! I really cannot wait to get my hands on that camera
Preorders are available here:
NEX-7 at Amazon, Adorama, B&H, J&R, eBay.
Zeiss 24mm at Amazon, Adorama, B&H, J&R, eBay.
A reviewer form a dutch website sent me this: “Just a short note to let you know we’ve published an extensive review (>5500 words) of the Sony a77 at FotoVideo.nu (an independant and editorial websites about photography and video).The review is in Dutch, but I think you can read it reasonably with the help of Google Translate. Beyond text, we’ve included a lot of images and graphs (also hi-res on Flickr). You are free to use image material and/or text quotes if you like. It’s at: http://nl.fotovideo.nu/reviews/2339/sony-alpha-a77-review (Click here to read the translation). In short we are very positive about the specs of the a77 and think its price-performance ratio is very good. The step to use an EVF over an OVF is couragous, though it’s up to the advanced photographer wether it’s a good alternative (in some cases it’s not, e.g. battery usage). The major disadvantage is that the a77 has lots of noise from ISO 3200 and up. We think it’s a pity that Sony didn’t choose to use the 16 megapixel-sensor of the NEX-5N (we also have a review in preparation for that one). Also, compared to the fullframe Canon 5D Mark II, the a77 lacks detail (despite of the additional megapixels).
We use Imatest for benchmarking and have used a near-final sample (from Sony) with firmware 1.02. Keep up the good work with your site. We’re reading it daily. 
”
Photoreview (Click here) tested the new 16-50mm f/2.8 kit lens: “On the A77 body, the review lens turned in an impressive performance in Photo Review’s Imatest tests, which showed consistently high resolution throughout the aperture and focal length range. Maximum resolution was recorded at f/4 with the 24mm focal length setting”
And those are the links to preorder the new cameras and lenses:
A77 at Amazon, Adorama, B&H, J&R, eBay.
A65 at Amazon, Adorama, B&H, J&R, eBay.
Sony NEX-7 Amazon, Adorama, B&H, J&R, eBay.
Sony NEX-5n Amazon, Adorama, B&H, J&R, eBay.
Zeiss 24mm f/1.8 Amazon, Adorama, B&H, J&R, eBay.
Sony 50mm f/1.8 Amazon, Adorama, B&H, J&R, eBay.
Sony 55-210mm Amazon, Adorama, B&H, J&R, eBay.
NEX-5n viewfinder Amazon, Adorama, B&H, J&R, eBay.
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Vlad
8 months ago |I like the images a lot too, lol!
Maxwell
8 months ago |The best was the new 16-50mm F2.8 lens review and performance.
The new lens looks very good and it has just the right price I would say.
I might buy an NEX-5N, pluss adapter without mirror and this 16-50mm lens.
I shoot most landscape so auto focus is not a very big need.
But the E-mount 18-55mm lens is also very good, and the NEX-5N and NEX7
both got “lens error fix” in camera for JPG. And I plan to just shoot
JPG, more fun less work!
David
8 months ago |If you shoot landscape just get an a850 and Zeiss 16-35 or 24-70.
Mike
8 months ago |As a low ISO shooter, NEX7 with Zeiss 24mm is the perfect combo for me. I like the details of the image samples. Would like to see how the 5N performs with the Zeiss lens. May want to buy one as a back-up.
www.MilosJanata.com
8 months ago |Disabling(locking down)temporarily the translucent mirror would really help to make this camera more attractive for me.
I hope they are not planing to release 16mpx dumbed down version but full featured 16 mpx alternative.
btw: DXO was right again:)
pancanikonpus
8 months ago |i am worry to buy a77. if sony later release a57 with 5n 16MP sensor
Renato M.
8 months ago |that’s possible but I don’t think they will, because a A57 with the NEX-5n specs would be a killer for the A65, wouldn’t it? but by this logic will Sony kill the A55 line? what would they do to make the A57 so it doesn’t compete with the A65 and at the same time it’s not too handicapped? But it would have to have AVCHD 2.0, 10fps, new BIONZ processor, etc.
but at the same time, it doesn’t make sense to have this kind of doubt, to choose between an A77 and an “A57″, does it? they have completely different prices and they fill pretty different needs, because the things that makes the A77 stands out you will never see in an “A57″. in that case, to choose between an A65 and an “A57″ would make more sense, I think.
it would be something like to choose between a T3i and a 60D, I would choose a T3i and buy more lenses, but in this case the A57 would also have better high-ISO performance than the more expensive A65, which can become a no brainer.
Hiep
8 months ago |With that mentality, you will never get any camera. My NEX-7 is still on pre-order. I know I would enjoy shooting with it as I have enjoyed shooting with my A900. Photography is not just about ISO performance. If you really need to shoot at 6400 ISO all the time, then get the D3S. Or get the A77 and the NEX-5N, then you don’t have to worry about anything else.
Gimp
8 months ago |I do wonder now if I should stick with the A700 for a while to see what Sony do next.
Neo NiGHTS ®
8 months ago |+1
Even though Andrea has stated thar Sony WILL address the “high ISO crowd”, I’m not so sure anymore.
Let’s see.
SonyA77
8 months ago |and with the reported bugs I wonder if I will EVER get the current version of the A77 or perhaps wait for the next A7? series.
beware
8 months ago |A77 Bug reports …
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1037&thread=39427594
Mike
8 months ago |Mine has another problem. Some of the images aren’t coming out as usual. Some of my subjects seem to have see through clothing.
Raghav
8 months ago |That sounds more like a feature to me!!
acolyte
8 months ago |Can I have yours?
Joel
8 months ago |Sounds like it’s lacking an IR filter
Renato M.
8 months ago |I’m trying but I don’t really understand why did Sony choose a 24MP instead of 16~18MP sensor. Besides more MP what did they accomplished with it? Everything becomes harder, you uses more processing power for photos but also in video too, calculating downsizing and all that sort of stuff. You get more noise in high-ISO. The market wasn’t asking for more MP, the photographers that would choose a A77 were pretty satisfied with 16~18MP and I think they would all prefer a 2 or 3 stops better performance at high-ISO than 6MP or 8MP more.
Which makes me question Panasonic as well, since 16MP in a m4/3 sized sensor is very similar to 24MP in a APS-C sensor. The 12MP used in the m4/3 would be similar to the 20MPsamsung used in their new NX200 – which seems to perform very well. But at the same time 12MP to 16MP is different than 16MP to 24MP, since 12MP can be seems as a low number, even though I think it’s plenty for someone willing to acquire a m4/3.
But the main difference is that Panasonic managed to step up in their high-ISO performance from the 12MP to the 16MP, but we can’t say that from the NEX-5n 16MP to the A65/77/NEX-7 24MP. So, what’s the point?
Daemonius
8 months ago |Cause they can probably.
Its more about marketing point of view, 24 mpix camera sounds better. Especially when you are only one with such high pixel count.
Renato M.
8 months ago |I know that but that’s exactly what I’m saying it doesn’t make sense.
People that would buy a A65/77 and NEX-7 know better about pixel count, ISO performance, etc. they wouldn’t spend so much money based on that. they are not that uninformed consumers like the P&S that would buy thinking that more MP is better.
You can stuff the sensor with more MP, I think they all can do that, but it just doesn’t make sense when you are not able to improve over your older sensor. So overall it still doesn’t make any sense.
dk
8 months ago |Because there’s an inherent benefit of more MP. Just that you (and the vast majority) don’t know how to take advantage of it.
Gimp
8 months ago |The problem is that higher mpix has just killed A77 sales as it will get poor reviews from the anti-Sony media due to the high ISO not being as good as the D7000.
Vlad
8 months ago |@Gimp
Killed? Yeah, right. Also, the A77/NEX7 are targeted at people that won’t be swayed by media that easily.
Joel
8 months ago |If you’re serious about photography, you’re probably not buying a Sony in the first place..
SonyA77
8 months ago |@Vlad
Wait for the reviews and you’ll see what I mean. They will mark down the A77 due to reviewers obsession with high ISO noise. It will appear below the D7000 in their scores and the A77 sales will suffer.
History is repeating itself, Sony need to stop killing their own sales by doing stupid things.
Froo
8 months ago |I was in your camp until pretty recently, but thinking about it and discussing it with some pretty smart people has changed my mind. We tend to look at noise in a “per pixel” way, but that is completely inappropriate. Noise should be measured per a specific printing area, and a noisier higher-resolution sensor will essentially result in dithering AND more resolution in the same area as a lower-res’d sensor. Plus, if you really want, you CAN pixel bin afterwards but you cannot up-res afterwards.
GH
8 months ago |Making 13×19 prints at 300ppi is the point. It seems there are many camera owners who talk about and scrutinize camera specs all day, yet don’t do much more than post pics to facebook or Flickr. It seems like a conflict of interest. Quantum efficiency probably won’t improve a ton over the next few years, so raising resolution is the main place to turn for improvements. I can’t wait to see 40mp aps-c sensors, when the tech is there.
Joel
8 months ago |Will glass even resolve at 40mp on an APS-C sensor? Some of my best full frame Nikon glass is almost starting to strugle with the 16mp pixel pitch of my D7000!
Alfonso Cuitiño
8 months ago |I can’t believe you actually work, Andrea, Sony should be paying you a shitload of money for all this publicity!
Ollder
8 months ago |The more I read these reviews, the more I’m drawing back my enthusiasm for the new A77. But having no DSLR, just my old Minolta 600si Classic and a tiny Panasonic ZF28, i’m desiring a successor for Minolta and use for all it’s lenses and equipment. Should it be A580/A55 then, or do I have to wait if Sony gets something workable on the market? Maybe FF A88/A99 some day… (Just wondering to myself
Anybody having any idea if something like A57 would be coming?
emarsh
8 months ago |It’s these reviews that are giving a bad impression of the image quality, even before the final firmware version is out. The image reviews that come out after the official release has had time to settle, with full software support, then conclusions can be drawn. This review site on this article still didn’t have the official final firmware version on it. There is a ver. 1.02b that is the final version. However, when talking ‘noise’ levels, the noise isn’t bad until iso 3200 on this a77. Also, 24mp images are going to look way better than 16mp images from nex5n and the a580, simply because there are 8mp more resolution. That is like a whole additional sensor worth of resolution on the same size sensor. So, at iso 50-3200, this a77 should theoretically produce stunning images, even better than the nex 5n and a580 sensor. People are fussing about iso 6400, for pete’s sake, you don’t need iso 6400 except in extreme specialized circumstances. Just imagine taking a scenic photo at iso 50 – 800, which is where most people are going to want to be anyway, not shooting bats in a cave. Is excellent iso 3200 really that horrible of a thing? Personally though, I want to see how the nex7 does in comparison, 24mp is great news to me, Iwant to see all the details of bird feathers, mountainsides, animals, etc. now, 16mp on the nex 5n is great, don’t get me wrong, but 24mp on the nex7 with all the extra control will be much better than the nex5n. Iso 6400, not concerned about it. Ask yourself if you really need iso 6400-12,800, then decide.
Wirralpix
8 months ago |I was an early adopter of the A700 and it had the same negative publicity until firmware v4 came out with support from Lightroom. I worried about the negativity but understanding the cameras strengths and weaknesses, I’ve loved using the camera for the past four years.
I’m now an early adopter of the A77, and I’m a little disappointed at the negativity surrounding the camera before we’ve had RAW support from Adobe and a firmware update which I’m sure will eventually come.
I usually shoot below ISO 800, but on rare occasions I’d love a clean ISO 3,200 image but I knew the limitations of the A77 when I bought it. Likewise, I use Topaz Detail to help me get extra detail from the A700 12 mp images that isn’t there. The 24 mp sensor will give me that detail. Add in all of the other features of the camera and I’m confident that I’ve got the A77 for a further four years.
Andy
8 months ago |I dont think the new FF will have good noise management because SOny might put 32-50 mp in the new sensor and the ISO will not be that good. i am using a900, a580 but want to get the a77. ISO no good, even at low ISO if you look at the dark area of the image, you still see a bunch of noise. Sigh!!!
Roman
8 months ago |I have sold off all of my m43′s gear awaiting the A77. I had the GH2 and Voigtlander 25 0.95 combo, and boy did it take some nice pics/video. The GH2 shoots amazing video. The main reason I have decided to switch systems is because of all the great features. Full manual exposure controls for video, phase detect contiuous auto focus for video (when you just want to shoot without the hassles), BUILD QUALITY vs the GH2 which felt like a toy, OLED xga EVF which should be MUCH better than the GH2, weather and dust resistant, 1080 60p (great for slo-mo), etc.
I know a lot of people could care less about video, but why not bring these features to the table. Canon and Nikon have not brought it yet, and Panasonic and Olympus don’t have the pro features in their bodies. I am sure the iso issue will end up not being a big deal, I just wish people would focus on the whole equation instead of getting hung up on 1 single overrated detail.
My biggest problem is that I can’t seem to decide between the A77 and the NEX-7. Reading all these posts is making me loose my mind!!!
Don Cox
8 months ago |That’s simple.
If you have a load of old lenses and macro gear, get the NEX-7. If you are happy to use only A-mount lenses, get the A77.
Brandon
8 months ago |Why would macro gear favor the NEX-7?
REVENGE
8 months ago |One reason is that since auto-focus is often irrelevant for macro work, forgoing the translucent mirror for the bare sensor would deliver better image quality.
Mr M
8 months ago |ahhh get both ? =)
Ollder
8 months ago |I think you’re right with (not so high) importance of high ISOs, even though I surprisingly often find myself needing them e.g. in concerts etc. But the lack of details in LOW ISO compared with some LESS megapixel cameras push me worried too.
With A580 I could get almost – not quite – the same by lot a lower price…But still there is quite a lot interesting technology in A77.
reinz
8 months ago |hahahaha, same me too
i can’t decide buy a77 or nex-7 or waiting a99 full frame. all that camera make me grazy n i would sell my lens for that camera 
Roman
8 months ago |Yep, I feel you. I want the A99 too but can’t wait. I will buy the A77 kit, and some high quality full frame primes (love those Zeiss lenses). That way when the A99 comes out I will just ebay the kit and keep my primes. So far I have had great luck selling my gear on ebay. All of my m43′s gear sold for almost what I paid. Its almost like renting!
The NEX-7 will have to wait. I am thinking I will probably pick one up in the future when prices have dropped and use it exclusively with adapted manual focus primes. I loved using my GH2 with Voigtlander 25mm 0.95 prime, I can’t imagine how much fun a lens like that would be with the NEX-7 with the OLED xga EVF and focus peeking feature!
Denis
8 months ago |+1! See DXO results. The only thing that dissapoints a little bit is high ISO perfomance, but using ISO 50-800(the majority of shooting conditions) One get excellent results. With A77 You get wonderful color depth, dynamic range… Go buy Canon 7D, and maybe sometimes You’ll get better picture quality shooting in the dark room/church/street, but every single photo(no matter if You shoot in sunny day or deep night) will have worse colours, DR, etc. So, IMHO ISO perfomance is very important but it’s not the only thing to characterize the camera.
P.S. Sorry for my English… I’m Russian and my english is far from perfect.
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Snapperbox
8 months ago |For all pixel peepers, including myself, these are the limits on iso i will go, irregardless of pixel count.
FF – 6400
APSC – 3200
M4/3 – 1600
Nikon1/xz1/LX5 – 800
Pns – 400
So to me its ard 1 stop advantage for every incremental of sensor size increase.
Anything above that limit is actually quite pointless. Physics is still physics, something we cant defy. But we can change the way we take a shot.
edickon
8 months ago |It seems to me the 24MP/High ISO “issue” is simply a balance between the ability to crop and occassional noise issues in (for me) extreme and rare circumstances. Since I intend to use a fair amount of legacy glass with my NEX7 the ability to crop will be very useful, but for others it may not be the case. The same thought processes might have gone through the minds of the development team.
David
8 months ago |I never use anything higher than ISO 800, very rarely ISO 1600…who cares??? High ISO is only for journalism/emergency shots where you are capturing an image that is news-based, not quality-based. Stupid issue to quabble over. Most shooting is done in bright natural daylight or controlled lighting environments, where ISO 100 to ISO 400 is the maximum range.
Wheelus
8 months ago |David, as usual I agree with you. I have never realized how much money that there is in photographing concerts. With this apparently the greatest need for high ISOs, how much detail do you need to see in the photograph. Do you really need to see Mick Jagger’s wrinkles and age spots? Maybe a little bit of a soft image would make Mick look 30 again. As you point out in photojournalism the greatest need is to just get an image. If you photograph someone viewing the vision of the Virgin Mary in Champion, Wisconsin, do you need to see the dial on the face of the watch that the visitor is wearing?
Snapperbox
8 months ago |Hi wheelus, my take is if you really are making money out of photographing concerts, then in my opinion you should go straight to D3S or D700 or even D7000 without thinking.
For me, i am just taking photos of my family. Unless they show up on the stage, i will bring my D7000. If not, i would rather enjoy the show with them than busying shooting photos of people I dont know or care of.
Vlad3D
8 months ago |I think noise free high ISO is super critical property of camera. I am shooting my family and friends in different situations (Panasonic GH2). Unless it is bright day light I am often missing:
- shorter shutter speed (I want to stop action at 1/500 sec)
- no flash (I want natural light)
- greater depth of field (smaller hole – more in focus)
- smaller and portable zoom lens (such lens are not bright)
All those possibilities are directly connected to high ISO noise.
ageha
8 months ago |So true! ISO is something I don’t wont to worry about so I’m able to use whatever shutter speeds and apertures I want!
Louis
8 months ago |I shoot concert with an a550 so to me 3200 iso is 1 stop improvement from what I actually do right now. Winner already and updates of firmware will adress certain situations / issues
I have fate.
www.MilosJanata.com
8 months ago |I still think it’s better for Sony to release A57 then let people to buy nikon d7000 or d8000 or upcoming canon cameras.
People who wants megapixels will always buy A65/77
Mr M
8 months ago |I would disagree. People who wants a77/65 , would not necessary care for the higher mpx. In reality , those cams will give us higher resolution. Bearing in mind that the A77 ISO isnt crap and up till now we haven seen a proper image.
For peeps with a100/200/300/700 , i think this would be a good upgrade if you desire a semi-pro offering from Sony.
Vromopodarix
8 months ago |I am at a different camp than most of you guys, for me the lowest ISO I use is 800 (7D and 40D for work and EP1 for fun). I am going bananas trying to decide between the NEX5n and NEX7 and cursing Sony for not making a NEX 6.
I will probably get the NEX5n for use exclusively with manual focus lens and use of ISO 6400 and 12800. If I could afford it I would get the 5D2 but I cannot carry 3 full sized DSLRs with grips when on a job (I usually work with the 24-105L and a bag of primes, with 2 DSLRs and a NEX I can just use 3 primes and be done with it).
But from a pure non professional point of view the NEX7 is the most desirable tool (apart from the Leica M9 naturally)
acolyte
8 months ago |They could have a dumbed-down NEX 7 that has the dials and controls but less functionality. I’d get that too. NEX 7 is just pricey, but it’s cool.
Clyde
8 months ago |We used to shoot 1600 tx b&w for sports, concerts, and photo J… and we were very pleased and gratefull for being able to do so. Now a77 3200 iso compares very well with old 200 iso color negative film… and we act like it’s unusable for anything. And the film images were printed for wall hangings and mag publication while the a77 shots will be viewed and published mostly at 72dpi web res.
I just dont get the iso concerns. We are so far ahead of the game it’s nearly impossible to even hear the gripes. Did we not shoot weddings in dark churches with grainy film just a few years ago? Now some are acting like a77 will cause brides to complain. I just don’t get it.
lorenzino
8 months ago |People have way too much time to waste in this new pixel peeping trend. As far as I am concerned the problem of the Nex-7 is the lack of a serious lens system that can take advantage of the sensor. I am not interested in the a77 (I have a collection of Nikon glasses) but if I were a sony alpha mount lens owner, I would have to doubts in buying it…
lorenzino
8 months ago |I meant “no doubts”, sorry
Mr M
8 months ago |It well be a generally conspiracy from people who isnt comfortable with the progress that Sony has taken , since buying Konica-Minolta in 2006. Oops , was it only 5 years ago only ?
Spoon
8 months ago |A bit of a sloppy review with factual errors. Tried to explain to the reviewer that the light loss from the pellicle mirror is the main difference between the A77 and 5N and should be mentioned, as he thought you or the camera needed to compensate for that through a higher camera ISO selection. On top of his conclusions about noise, which means he was counting the effect of the mirror twice… And his theory about more noise with more pixels was supposedly supported by the 1100D vs the 7D. See the RAW samples from both on dpreview or check DXO. Many of the shots in the review, including high iso test shots were shot with a pre production firmware. And he concluded things about sensors without testing RAW. Yeah, that about sums it up.
CRB
8 months ago |The 24mm zeiss wide open (almost—2.0, 2.5)samples are really bad…
Clyde
8 months ago |What exactly do you mean by “really bad” CRB?
The Lens? The Camera? The Photography? Without details, your comment couldn’t be any more subjective.
Every one of those images has some areas that are crystal clear sharp resolution at nearly wide open aperture. It can’t be judged on the photographer missing the focus points that you would have wished for, or the fact he didn’t WB for tungsten light or expose them properly.
What criteria are you basing your “really bad” comments upon?
Unfair to compare f8 with balanced flash and soft box to f2 with unbalanced tungsten from nearby lamps. Lazy photographer though… could at least have reset WB for tungsten and exposed them properly.
Clyde
8 months ago |Is the photographer intentionally trying to hurt NEX-7 sales? Did he let his dog shoot them? A model, a backdrop, studio lights, wardrobe, styling… and we get shitly out-take clips?
Why is Sony allowing their new cameras to fall into the hands of such crappy imagers? That set had loads of potential… and he can’t even get his WB right, or keep a consistent blue background even with strobes? Why are we looking up the models nose and seeing his AC vents in the ceiling? What’s he trying to convey with scabby knees and washed out colors? WTF is this guy doing anywhere near a camera?
That link should be killed immediately. It doesn’t show anything except how a great camera can be terribly misused.
acolyte
8 months ago |Which photographer? The first one?
I don’t mind the misuse. It balances out the too-good-to-be-true reviews, ‘a bad photo doesn’t mean a bad camera, it may mean a bad photographer’, although I think there’s enough hate for A77 too for the rough samples to add on to it.
But hey, until we get a proper photographer who uses his/her A77 properly, we can’t expect much. If you would do the honor.. (My photography skills suck – I just like taking pictures)
Clyde
8 months ago |The guy that did the testing of the NEX-7 with Zeiss 24mm… I can’t even call him a photographer. I don’t know what that was. He had all the elements to do a great session and a nice test. But he shows shots up the models nose and his AC vents behind the photo background. He can’t WB between shots of tungsten and flash. He shows washed out pictures of knee scabs and brags about how he opened them in RAW.
I honestly think he’s trying to make the camera look bad on purpose. Utter bullshit to link those photos here. Why is there a need to show every freaking sample from any joker? How is that goofball getting his hands on that camera and seasoned pros aren’t? I’m astonished.
Canon gave the first 5DMII to Laforet and we saw gorgeous video from the very start. Any fool can get his NEX-7 samples published and linked and the only requirement is that they are the worst of the worst claiming to be a photographer. It’s stupid for Sony and SAR to put up with this. Bad press for the system.
Todoke
8 months ago |You’re over-reacting a bit.
The topmost shot is very impressive and shows that the 24MP are actually used very well.
The ones at ISO 800 are a bit color noisy for my eye right now, but it’s all ok and I’m curious to see more samples over the next weeks.
And the knee one… why not?!.
I don’t need a bunch of standard model shots to see how the camera performs.
Joe Benjamin
8 months ago |They weren’t taken or posted for their aesthetic qualities, they look like casual photos taken for technical samples.
At first the noise with the ISO 800 shot was surprisingly high but I forgot he output them to JPEG with no NR using CaptureOne. So I downloaded the full size, threw it in Lightroom and with the chroma and luminance sliders at 25 it looks fantastic. Looks like she was jumping so the sharpness in that light at f/2 and 1/80sec shutter are pretty good considering, though only the lower half of her face was not moving and in focus.
Bill
8 months ago |Digital Rev TV has posted its review of the Alpha 77. I do not think the reviewer is a particular fan of Sony, but he gave it a neutral review. Did not like the EVF because of a slight lag turning on. His shooting style is to do quick snap shots in a the city and missed a few. He also thought the light loss from the mirror was objectionable. He did not talk about the video, but they did use a second Alpha 77 to film a lot of the review. He thought the high iso performance was good to 3200 and OK up to 6400.
http://youtu.be/Al1BI82nV9A
Sporeo
8 months ago |Probably the fairest chance the A77′s been given in my opinion, especially where ISO is concerned. Kai is usually nothing but straight to the point with his reviews, even with his humor in the process, and I think he was surprisingly (even to himself) impressed by the A77. As others have said in the comments, most of his concerns are probably something that can be tweaked with some firmware updates. He did actually say he did think the EVF was quite good, too, even if a little on the slower side to switch over (but again, firmware might improve that).
The only thing worrying me right now is the bug reports coming out. I hope those issues are as fixable with firmware as others seem to suspect. I plan to get the a65 and hope that it doesn’t share these issues, but I can’t imagine the differences would be far off in that respect.
acolyte
8 months ago |Oh yeah I like his reviews. Reported bugs sound fixable with firmware, at least most of them. You can expect the bugs to stay and a month or so for the fixes (well less than a month after the US release)
Yup yup, A77 sounds like a realistic camera for its price now – doesn’t have everything we want and buggy. Still worth $1200 I say (yeaaaa.. haven’t worth $1400 in my mind until I see some after-US-release reviews)
They used A77 to film and shoot the review? That’s quite interesting. At least we get the video in action as well as the camera review itself.
Bill
8 months ago |To shoot some of the footage, they have marked those parts of the video as shot on the 77.
Mr M
8 months ago |IF the slight lag is similar or better than A33 , I think it would be acceptable.
zstan
8 months ago |Look, if i know i am anticipating a ‘decisive moment’ shot, i’d turn my live view off and just rely wholly on the EVF. I am sure this is what most people who are familiar with the system would do (a33/55 users).
I doubt that the lag time can be reduced, but it would certainly a big step forward if the change from live view to EVF is instantaneous. Hope to see that in the new FF cameras.
Joel
8 months ago |And now we wait for Nikon to do something absolutely magical with the A77′s sensor in the D300S replacement. *glee*
Nawaf
8 months ago |The magic is in the Expeed processor and algorithms. Man are they good at what they do.
Still don’t think Nikon will use the 24MP, 16MP probably. They don’t like to sacrifice low light performance.
Jason
8 months ago |To my eyes, these samples look very poor and not good examples of what this combo should be producing. I’d like to see examples in better hands.
emopunk
8 months ago |The problem is if Nikon chooses to use NEX-5N for D400.. then I see the real troubles for Sony..
SonyA77
8 months ago |Indeed and the D7000 replacement. Sony have made a huge mistake!
Spoon
8 months ago |Oh yeah, a “huge” mistake, they could have had whopping third of a stop better high ISO performance at the cost of just 8 million pixels. Get real.
www.MilosJanata.com
8 months ago |wrong statement from theoretical and even practical point of view, sorry
Spoon
8 months ago |Factually correct statement (as the 5n sensor performs just about 1/3 of a stop better). Those claiming that difference is a huge mistake probably wouldn’t notice the difference in noise in real life and forget that the higher resolution normally allows for a bit more NR while keeping detail similar to the 16mp sensor because you’ll start with more detail to begin with.
SonyA77
8 months ago |@Spoon it is a huge mistake, reviewers will criticise the noise and it will kill sales compared to the D7000 and newer Nikons.
Spoon
8 months ago |By that theory, almost every new Canon sensor the past 5 years was a mistake. I do agree however there are still quite a few “reviewers” out there that let their conclusions be clouded by false assumptions and unsupported or even untested theories. The Dutch one being a prime example.
Nawaf
8 months ago |Does anyone see color noise at ISO 800? I like the level of detail though.
Vinh
8 months ago |I will buy A77. I don’t care about ISO. I dont think I usually shoot in very low light condition.