Sony NEX-7 news roundup.
Sony NEX-7 versus NEX-5n shutter sound.
Steve Huff first posted a NEX-7 vs E-P3 and X100 high ISO comparison (Click here) and than tested the 50mm f/1.8 lens on the NEX-7 (Click here).
Someone at Dpreview forum asked: “does anyone know if Nex7 popup flash will trigger the Sony flashes?“. The answer is yes!
Spent a day with NEX-7 – Wowww!!! (Dpreview forum).
Sony NEX-7 preorder links: Amazon, Adorama, B&H, J&R, eBay.
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reinz
8 months ago |i love it! ^0^
HotDuckZ
8 months ago |Different lens will make a difference sound too.
And I have a photo that confirm about NEX-7 wireless flash.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thanatham/6210214669/
Clyde
8 months ago |Any idea if it works with the 20AM mini flash trigger for a900/850 too?
Chris Lewis
8 months ago |I have never felt time pass so slowly!!! It’s even worse than when I was a kid waiting for Christmas or my birthday. The day I can buy my NEX-7 can’t come soon enough.
Radec
8 months ago |Any chance that the NEX7 can trigger Nikon SB without the need of a trigger like pocketwizards?
Hellven
8 months ago |No
David
8 months ago |I don’t see why not. PT04-S triggers work for my a580 and a850. If the NEX7 has the same hotshoe, it should work.
And they only cost £25
Clyde
8 months ago |The Sony wireless trigger from built in flash is IR signal… Not RF. You should be able to put RF trigger on NEX-7 shoe and trigger any flash (Nikon or whatever) which ca read the same RF signal that is transmitted. If the Nikons have the RF receiver built in, thats cool. But usually there is a separate receiver which is matched to the transmitter… And any flash can be used for that… Albeit losing full ttl and hss functionality of Sony system. Some CaNiko units retain full hss function with the latest and most expensive RF wireless systems. Not available for Sony as far as I know. Must use Sony proprietary IR system for that… Or compatible third party IR units.
David
8 months ago |Yup I know. But my answer was no, he doesn’t need pocketwizards. You can use cheap ebay triggers that work fine.
Dan
8 months ago |The CA on the Zeiss is noticeable at f2.
Clyde
8 months ago |Show me a wide-angle lens for any camera that doesn’t CA at f2.
Alpha55
8 months ago |ADMIN: E’ USCITO IL NUOVO FIRMWARE DELLA A77!!
http://www.sony-asia.com/support/download/474591
jazzroy
8 months ago |That’s Nex-5, not Nex-5n!
KingRenas
8 months ago |This camera everyday is getting like bread and butter.
Unfortunately I don’t have the budget for now but I will get it in the future.
Good work Sony I’m loving it your NEX series.
lock
8 months ago |Weird how much sharper the E-P3 actually is. It looks like the other two use a lot more NR. I bet with a proper clean up there will little difference between all three.
Nawaf
8 months ago |You do realize you missed the part where he says that the NR was turned off in the E-P3. You can’t do that with the other two.
Forbes
8 months ago |You can’t turn NR off? That’s odd. I guess that even for high end enthusiast cameras full control to the user is too much to ask for.
Nawaf
8 months ago |Yes, tell me about it. NR is still blotchy, why can’t it be more like the Fuji.
Good thing we still have raw.
Linh
8 months ago |Just shoot in RAW if you want full control.
Forbes
8 months ago |True, and I always do. But still, for a camera in this segment I would expect differently.
Baba Ganoush
8 months ago |It’s interesting how many commenters at stevehuffphoto.com claimed that the X100 was the sharpest of the three cameras he tested, but that is not my impression at all. I don’t know what those folks were looking at. Perhaps they were looking at the full size images that Huff said he had to pull down off his site, and by arriving late to his review I had only the small shots and crops to judge by.
Colin
8 months ago |Wow, it has a rattlesnake for a shutter.
lock
8 months ago |Good point. But that may prove more than you think. Although I would liked to have the full res version, I just left it up to neat image pro to clean it up. The EP-3 picture is too contrasty, so I took that back a bit. But after cleaning it is the best out of all three.
If it means that you cannot set NR to off on the Nex (or the Fuji) in jpeg and raw, it’s not my cup of tea anyway.
Clyde
8 months ago |There is an issue with wireless flash controlled from built in units. I’m hoping the NEX-7 will also allow flash to be controlled with optional HVL-F20AM that is used for a900/850. It’s important for portrait shooting.
I use a lot of wireless flash so I know what I’m talking about. See here:
http://www.ctphotographx.com/
Consider that most wireless flash is for vertical use of portraits… or in my case, fashion and commercial portraits. It’s 99% vertical work. If one is required to only use the built in flash as remote trigger in vertical orientation, that ALWAYS puts one side of the camera at a disadvantage with a blind spot to any flash that is on the opposite side of the camera trigger. I cannot deal with the inconsistencies of blind spots for fast paced client jobs. It’s embarrassing and time wasting to endure misfires in front of paying clients. This has prevented me from using a700 or other built in triggers in the past because they don’t accept the HVL-F20AM like the a900/850 do.
With the a900/850, using the HVL-F20AM, I put that little flash on a bracket with cable so it sits above the lens/camera in vertical mode (rather than on the side with blind spot). Arranging it above camera not only improves line of signal to remote flash on BOTH sides of photographer, but I find that it dramatically increases the range too, especially for outdoor use in bright sunlight. I’ve fired remote flash this way consistently up to 60 feet… it’s an amazing improvement.
To do this, one must modify an off camera flash cable… slightly. The flash shoe of off camera cables is not exactly the same as the flash shoe on the camera. The cables have an extra notch which tells the flash that it is no longer on the camera. That disengages remote function. Just put a paper wad with tape over the notch and then the off camera flash will think it is still attached directly to the camera and provide all functionality as intended.
Why Sony doesn’t realize that wireless flash is required for vertical work just as much if not more than horizontal work is beyond me. Horizontal flash triggering is fine, as the flash is above camera/lens and nothing blocks the signal… but portrait togs need just as much reliability and consistency in vertical mode. If NEX-7 doesn’t allow HVL-F20AM to be used as trigger, then I won’t even bother trying for vertical work and be forced to revert back to my Quantum Radio Slaves with Sunpak 622′s for outdoor flash work.
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Sony!
Flash trigger above camera in vertical mode for consistency and reliability. Let the HVL-20AM work for NEX-7 like it does for a900/850. You didn’t allow this for a700 or other cams with built in triggers. That prevented me from using most of your cameras for this type of work.
And please release a wired remote for NEX-7… Just a couple of little improvements will go a long way to improving functionality for the working tog.
Nawaf
8 months ago |I agree with you on this one. Just makes no sense why it’s only limited to the A900!
Clyde, any idea if TTL works with the NEX-7 with off camera flash units? I haven’t read anything regarding this matter.
Clyde
8 months ago |As I’m eagerly awaiting my NEX-7 until mid-Nov… I cannot confirm. But I can only assume it allows for identical protocols of other Sony systems with built in flash trigger like a700/200 etc… HotDuckZ provides link way above to confirm that NEX-7 allows wireless flash with compatible Sony units. I assume that includes full ttl and hss functionality.
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I would gladly sell off a dozen Sunpak 622′s and 120J’s and Norman 200′s and all the Quantum Radio Slaves if Sony would allow that HVL-20AM to work on NEX-7. I can mod and workaround the vertical requirements for portraits. I’d love to sell that other gear and invest the $2500 back into Sony lighting… but alas, Sony doesn’t see the bigger picture.
It’s as if they use the wireless feature as a sales tool… simply to check it off the list against competition to say “We’ve got it too!”. But they don’t allow it to work with full potential for working togs… it’s just another worthless gimmick that will never be utilized beyond the snappy togs who get more validity by displaying the fun tech to friends and family wireless magic…
Working togs and creative enthusiasts could really make this work for them if Sony would just implement the tech a little more thoughtfully. We need a real transmitter independent from built in camera flash… One that operates on pure IR signal alone and doesn’t infect close up shots with naked transmitter signal… and one that allows solution for off camera vertical positioning to improve signal on all sides of camera rather than just the side the cam is turned towards. This is doable.
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Come on Sony… improve your pro workability and the enthusiasts will come clamoring to get a piece of the action.
David
8 months ago |Clyde, I don’t really understand why you would use the pop-up flash triggering system over radio triggers anyway.
It sounds like you have a radio system, so I can’t understand the appeal of using the optical system at all.
Pocket wizards or other systems work fine with a $10 adapter and are more reliable, work over longer distances etc.
A much better solution would be adding radio transmitters into the camera and receivers into the Sony flashes. THAT would be awesome. Even better if they would support HSS.
Nawaf
8 months ago |David, it’s much cheaper this way. The 7D does this when using the external flash as a slave and it works great without spending any extra cash.
Clyde
8 months ago |The Sony System allows for HSS and TTL. Radio Slave systems are limited in flash sync and automation is manual only, unless a thyristor flash is used.
See my write up on options for Sony flash systems here:
http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/options-to-minolta-sony-system-flash_topic74791.html
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With HSS functionality, the higher shutter speeds allow for shallow DOF and a unique flash expression unnatainable with radio slave units.
Voohoo
8 months ago |NEX-7 doesn’t use electronic shutter like the 5n, right? The 5n sounds soo slick. In comparison my NEX-3 sounds so clunky and gross.
c.d.embrey
8 months ago |Another meaningless, out-of-focus, video that tells us nothing. A poorly shot video, at a trade show, with lots of background noise tells us nothing about shutter noise.
Shoot it in a quite room (no sirens, no helicopters, no barking dogs in the background), using a good sound recorder (no Automatic Gain Control) and a good mic. Having a decibel meter would be nice, but not necessary. Have a NEX-5n, NEX-7, Leica M9, Sony DSLR, Canon DSLR and a Nikon DSLR to test. Also some noninterchangeable lens cameras – Canon G12, Nikon P7001, and a Fuji X100. Then we could learn something!!!