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	<title>Comments on: (SR4) UPDATED-&gt; new Sony HighEnd Alpha camera!</title>
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		<title>By: Theresa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go back to eastern Europe and buy some old Soviet cameras.  The lenses, just the 24-70 and the 135 ZAs and they are excellent lenses which I have never regretted buying.  I am hoping to get the 16-35 one of these years.  Sony doesn&#039;t need to listen to you and why would they?  Buy a Nikon or perhaps a Ukrainian camera and critique the lenses of theirs that you don&#039;t own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go back to eastern Europe and buy some old Soviet cameras.  The lenses, just the 24-70 and the 135 ZAs and they are excellent lenses which I have never regretted buying.  I am hoping to get the 16-35 one of these years.  Sony doesn&#8217;t need to listen to you and why would they?  Buy a Nikon or perhaps a Ukrainian camera and critique the lenses of theirs that you don&#8217;t own.</p>
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		<title>By: slavomordoesntknowanythingaboutzeiss</title>
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		<dc:creator>slavomordoesntknowanythingaboutzeiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@slavomir: use the Alpha 900 + Zeiss 135mm f/1,8 @ f/7.1 or f/4,5 and no corners are soft and use nice raw-converters like DxO Optics Pro!  And shut your mouth up! You don&#039;t know anything about the Alpha 900 + Zeiss lenses.
The only doubt ist that the JPEG-Engine is bad, use RAW instead!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@slavomir: use the Alpha 900 + Zeiss 135mm f/1,8 @ f/7.1 or f/4,5 and no corners are soft and use nice raw-converters like DxO Optics Pro!  And shut your mouth up! You don&#8217;t know anything about the Alpha 900 + Zeiss lenses.<br />
The only doubt ist that the JPEG-Engine is bad, use RAW instead!</p>
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		<title>By: Zeo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bob will tell you that heâ€™s tested other gear when you ask him at his workshops.&quot;

Yes, I know him. :)  And I don&#039;t know of him ever using 35mm gear in an assignment that wasn&#039;t a film or digital Nikon (or fillm rangefinder). and I know that, despite this being a Sony fansite, no amount of wishful thinking is going to change Bob&#039;s longstanding relationship with Nikon, and that it would be quite odd for any pro to &#039;test&#039; new pre-release gear for a paid assignment. And given Bob&#039;s association with Nikon, it certainly would not be an assignment for Sony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bob will tell you that heâ€™s tested other gear when you ask him at his workshops.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, I know him. <img src='http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   And I don&#8217;t know of him ever using 35mm gear in an assignment that wasn&#8217;t a film or digital Nikon (or fillm rangefinder). and I know that, despite this being a Sony fansite, no amount of wishful thinking is going to change Bob&#8217;s longstanding relationship with Nikon, and that it would be quite odd for any pro to &#8216;test&#8217; new pre-release gear for a paid assignment. And given Bob&#8217;s association with Nikon, it certainly would not be an assignment for Sony.</p>
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		<title>By: dyna</title>
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		<dc:creator>dyna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 06:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Zeo Bob will tell you that he&#039;s tested other gear when you ask him at his workshops. His partnership with Nikon goes way back but again, he&#039;s not pinned down with exclusivity. Much the same as Joe McNally who is often seen working with other gear (especially where lighting is concerned) and other companies.  Bob can shoot what he wants, when he wants; he has plenty of friends who shoot other gear, it would be asinine to think he&#039;s never shot anything but Nikon. All photographers experiment with other gear when they can get the chance. Loyalty is one thing but single branding at the expense of all else isn&#039;t rational.  And Bob&#039;s a true professional. It&#039;s not that he&#039;d ever just ditch Nikon, I sincerely doubt that would ever take place, especially after nearly 30 years of work... but saying he never shoots anything but Nikon is just not so.

I&#039;m of the changed opinion that this image is a Nikon body for sure, though. So I&#039;m definitely agreeing with you on the shot.  It would be exceedingly odd for him to allow himself to be shot on location with another brand.  

@Slavomir: agreed in some areas... though I never believe online tests enough to sway me from going down to the local shop and testing for myself in real world situations what a lens is going to do for me. The 16-35 is an excellent example of one that I read mixed reviews on but now use for interior architectural work that people are truly happy with... and I can&#039;t fake what it does optically.  Sometimes real world experience has to trump the numbers. I prefer to see it in print and Sony&#039;s lenses print very, very well.  I love my Nikon stuff as well, don&#039;t get me wrong... but I firmly believe that Sony&#039;s optics are both misunderstood and sorely underrated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Zeo Bob will tell you that he&#8217;s tested other gear when you ask him at his workshops. His partnership with Nikon goes way back but again, he&#8217;s not pinned down with exclusivity. Much the same as Joe McNally who is often seen working with other gear (especially where lighting is concerned) and other companies.  Bob can shoot what he wants, when he wants; he has plenty of friends who shoot other gear, it would be asinine to think he&#8217;s never shot anything but Nikon. All photographers experiment with other gear when they can get the chance. Loyalty is one thing but single branding at the expense of all else isn&#8217;t rational.  And Bob&#8217;s a true professional. It&#8217;s not that he&#8217;d ever just ditch Nikon, I sincerely doubt that would ever take place, especially after nearly 30 years of work&#8230; but saying he never shoots anything but Nikon is just not so.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m of the changed opinion that this image is a Nikon body for sure, though. So I&#8217;m definitely agreeing with you on the shot.  It would be exceedingly odd for him to allow himself to be shot on location with another brand.  </p>
<p>@Slavomir: agreed in some areas&#8230; though I never believe online tests enough to sway me from going down to the local shop and testing for myself in real world situations what a lens is going to do for me. The 16-35 is an excellent example of one that I read mixed reviews on but now use for interior architectural work that people are truly happy with&#8230; and I can&#8217;t fake what it does optically.  Sometimes real world experience has to trump the numbers. I prefer to see it in print and Sony&#8217;s lenses print very, very well.  I love my Nikon stuff as well, don&#8217;t get me wrong&#8230; but I firmly believe that Sony&#8217;s optics are both misunderstood and sorely underrated.</p>
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		<title>By: Zeo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 00:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dyna - I&#039;m afraid you&#039;re wrong. Krist is paid by Nikon to give Nikon-sponsored talks around the country, and he&#039;s done this for years. He&#039;s starred in Nikon CLS Lighting videos, his blog shows him exclusively using Nikon gear ... and if you know anything about him and his books (going back to the 1980s) every single piece of gear he&#039;s used has been described as Nikon. 

Absolutely no way this is a Sony DSLR or lens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dyna &#8211; I&#8217;m afraid you&#8217;re wrong. Krist is paid by Nikon to give Nikon-sponsored talks around the country, and he&#8217;s done this for years. He&#8217;s starred in Nikon CLS Lighting videos, his blog shows him exclusively using Nikon gear &#8230; and if you know anything about him and his books (going back to the 1980s) every single piece of gear he&#8217;s used has been described as Nikon. </p>
<p>Absolutely no way this is a Sony DSLR or lens.</p>
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		<title>By: Sky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John seems to be right about the gap I guess.

I photoshopped the image a bit and:
- There&#039;s clear blue color around two white points. With very clear gap in between (clear blue pixel without any white tint) so it cannot be Zeiss logo.
- The text on the lens hood does not resemble any of those Sony produce now. So or it&#039;s something new from Sony or it&#039;s not Sony at all. Note that Sony lens hoods have short text in the middle while this one has two texts near the edges of leaf, more like Sigma lens hood (or perhaps other I don&#039;t know of).
- Camera profile resembles more Canon (or Nikon) than any other current Sony camera.

Sorry if I made your hopes go away... but I think that it&#039;s not Sony DSLR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John seems to be right about the gap I guess.</p>
<p>I photoshopped the image a bit and:<br />
- There&#8217;s clear blue color around two white points. With very clear gap in between (clear blue pixel without any white tint) so it cannot be Zeiss logo.<br />
- The text on the lens hood does not resemble any of those Sony produce now. So or it&#8217;s something new from Sony or it&#8217;s not Sony at all. Note that Sony lens hoods have short text in the middle while this one has two texts near the edges of leaf, more like Sigma lens hood (or perhaps other I don&#8217;t know of).<br />
- Camera profile resembles more Canon (or Nikon) than any other current Sony camera.</p>
<p>Sorry if I made your hopes go away&#8230; but I think that it&#8217;s not Sony DSLR.</p>
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		<title>By: Slavomir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slavomir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dyna,

Not arguing about the quality of the files from the A900!  The camera is amazing.  I actually waited a long time to go digital.  I wanted it to at least match what I was getting from my Pentax 67II, and I must say that with the Sony 50mm 1.4, the Minolta 100mm f2 and the Minolta 200mm f2.8 APO, the quality actually is better than 6x7cm transparencies...I&#039;m still amazed after 6 months.  As I do landscape work, I perhaps tend to be more picky than most people, and soft corners are not acceptable to me.  

The CZ zoom lenses have been testing terrible, and a lack of an amazing 24mm prime (the one Minolta made sucked) and a 35mm f2 (I have the Minolta, so no complaint for me) is pretty lame.  Sony revived some of the bad lenses from Minolta, which is surprising to me after releasing the amazing A900 and now A850.

I do have most of the lenses I would like to own, but I would love to have a stunning 24mm, and Sony making a 100 f2 with new coatings would be nothing to frown upon, and that goes for a 35mm f2.  I agree that the 100mm macro is a great lens, but I prefer the 100 f2 for many reasons.  If they did a 24mm TS lens, I think I&#039;d be speechless.

Believe me, I WANT Sony to do well, but they do have to much better in their lens department!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dyna,</p>
<p>Not arguing about the quality of the files from the A900!  The camera is amazing.  I actually waited a long time to go digital.  I wanted it to at least match what I was getting from my Pentax 67II, and I must say that with the Sony 50mm 1.4, the Minolta 100mm f2 and the Minolta 200mm f2.8 APO, the quality actually is better than 6x7cm transparencies&#8230;I&#8217;m still amazed after 6 months.  As I do landscape work, I perhaps tend to be more picky than most people, and soft corners are not acceptable to me.  </p>
<p>The CZ zoom lenses have been testing terrible, and a lack of an amazing 24mm prime (the one Minolta made sucked) and a 35mm f2 (I have the Minolta, so no complaint for me) is pretty lame.  Sony revived some of the bad lenses from Minolta, which is surprising to me after releasing the amazing A900 and now A850.</p>
<p>I do have most of the lenses I would like to own, but I would love to have a stunning 24mm, and Sony making a 100 f2 with new coatings would be nothing to frown upon, and that goes for a 35mm f2.  I agree that the 100mm macro is a great lens, but I prefer the 100 f2 for many reasons.  If they did a 24mm TS lens, I think I&#8217;d be speechless.</p>
<p>Believe me, I WANT Sony to do well, but they do have to much better in their lens department!</p>
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		<title>By: dyna</title>
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		<dc:creator>dyna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Zeo and John: Bob Krist is not under any sort of exclusive agreement with Nikon. He can test whatever product he likes. It could&#039;ve been Canon and it would never have mattered. Sony often offers product to professional photographers around the world in order to get constructive feedback and while it&#039;s true that this often happens quietly, it happens plenty. This is also how photographers jump from one sponsorship to another (Andy Katz and MeRa Koh, two Sony Artisans of Imagery, are both former Canon, as examples), if they like the gear better or feel that it offers them, as photographers, better opportunities to do what they like to do.  Also, the M/AM is never surrounded by a blue pattern on a Nikon body. As it happens I initially agreed with you until I looked closer at the hood which does not appear to be a current Nikon design. It does not match the 24-70 AF-S or even the 24-85 f/2.8-4 (which would&#039;ve been given away as it is by the orange Macro line).

@Slavomir: I would normally assume by your statements that you&#039;ve never actually shot anything on an A900 or an A850 because these words would never have left your keyboard had you owned one... but you appear to own an A900 so I have to remove my assumptions.  I can tell you in return, however, that I have die hard professional friends working in every field imaginable from high-end scientific to photojournalism for the Denver News Agency that have gone out to shoot with my A900 and have come back utterly blown away by the images they get with as little effort as they have to put forth. Two of them are now owners, despite their companies&#039; devotion to C and/or N.  I have portfolios of work from these cameras that drop jaws on a daily basis. I&#039;m always amazed at the output available from the A900 (and hence the A850).  The new 28-75 f/2.8 SAM may not be built as well as the 24-70Z but it most certainly holds its own in sharpness.  The 100mm Macro is tack on full frame. And I have 60x40 posters from the 135 that will change anyone&#039;s attitude about it immediately.  The 16-35 tends to be a little soft at the corners, true, and the 24-70 has a touch of vignetting wide open at 24, also true... but so do all of their competitors, and in both cases these lenses tend to correct their issues at low apertures like f/3.5 or f/4. At least Sony&#039;s lenses have the diffractive ability to deal with the high pixel density of today&#039;s high end cameras... when a lot of their competitors&#039; often do not.  

Regardless: you get into pro level gear from any one manufacturer you will be getting quality product for the most part. They all have their oddities but in the end, the Sony, Canon, and Nikon faithful are generally well rewarded for their full frame investment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Zeo and John: Bob Krist is not under any sort of exclusive agreement with Nikon. He can test whatever product he likes. It could&#8217;ve been Canon and it would never have mattered. Sony often offers product to professional photographers around the world in order to get constructive feedback and while it&#8217;s true that this often happens quietly, it happens plenty. This is also how photographers jump from one sponsorship to another (Andy Katz and MeRa Koh, two Sony Artisans of Imagery, are both former Canon, as examples), if they like the gear better or feel that it offers them, as photographers, better opportunities to do what they like to do.  Also, the M/AM is never surrounded by a blue pattern on a Nikon body. As it happens I initially agreed with you until I looked closer at the hood which does not appear to be a current Nikon design. It does not match the 24-70 AF-S or even the 24-85 f/2.8-4 (which would&#8217;ve been given away as it is by the orange Macro line).</p>
<p>@Slavomir: I would normally assume by your statements that you&#8217;ve never actually shot anything on an A900 or an A850 because these words would never have left your keyboard had you owned one&#8230; but you appear to own an A900 so I have to remove my assumptions.  I can tell you in return, however, that I have die hard professional friends working in every field imaginable from high-end scientific to photojournalism for the Denver News Agency that have gone out to shoot with my A900 and have come back utterly blown away by the images they get with as little effort as they have to put forth. Two of them are now owners, despite their companies&#8217; devotion to C and/or N.  I have portfolios of work from these cameras that drop jaws on a daily basis. I&#8217;m always amazed at the output available from the A900 (and hence the A850).  The new 28-75 f/2.8 SAM may not be built as well as the 24-70Z but it most certainly holds its own in sharpness.  The 100mm Macro is tack on full frame. And I have 60&#215;40 posters from the 135 that will change anyone&#8217;s attitude about it immediately.  The 16-35 tends to be a little soft at the corners, true, and the 24-70 has a touch of vignetting wide open at 24, also true&#8230; but so do all of their competitors, and in both cases these lenses tend to correct their issues at low apertures like f/3.5 or f/4. At least Sony&#8217;s lenses have the diffractive ability to deal with the high pixel density of today&#8217;s high end cameras&#8230; when a lot of their competitors&#8217; often do not.  </p>
<p>Regardless: you get into pro level gear from any one manufacturer you will be getting quality product for the most part. They all have their oddities but in the end, the Sony, Canon, and Nikon faithful are generally well rewarded for their full frame investment.</p>
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		<title>By: Slavomir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slavomir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds interesting, but so far most of the Sony lenses available are junk for full frame.  And CZ, with exception of 135mm, is also proving (see Kurt Munger&#039;s tests) to be terrible in corners on FF.  Unless Sony revives the legendary old Minolta lenses, and redesigns some others, they&#039;re never going to be more than a curiosity.  I love the A900 with Minolta lenses, but the selection is very limited.  I hope that great new lenses will be released...Sony, you listening???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds interesting, but so far most of the Sony lenses available are junk for full frame.  And CZ, with exception of 135mm, is also proving (see Kurt Munger&#8217;s tests) to be terrible in corners on FF.  Unless Sony revives the legendary old Minolta lenses, and redesigns some others, they&#8217;re never going to be more than a curiosity.  I love the A900 with Minolta lenses, but the selection is very limited.  I hope that great new lenses will be released&#8230;Sony, you listening???</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t get too excited. If you look closely the &quot;Zeiss logo&quot; has a gap in the middle. This makes it much more likely to be a Nikon M//A-M switch.  http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/images1/17-35mm/D3S_6864-1200.jpg
If there is no other source, I&#039;d strongly reconsider the &quot;SR4&quot; status...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get too excited. If you look closely the &#8220;Zeiss logo&#8221; has a gap in the middle. This makes it much more likely to be a Nikon M//A-M switch.  <a href="http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/images1/17-35mm/D3S_6864-1200.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/images1/17-35mm/D3S_6864-1200.jpg</a><br />
If there is no other source, I&#8217;d strongly reconsider the &#8220;SR4&#8243; status&#8230;</p>
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