(SR2) More mistery rumors: A V3 “NEX-styled” Alpha camera.
As you know I am getting a couple of these “crazy” rumors about a NEX PRO camera with A-mount (yeah at first glance this is a nonsense). I can feed the mystery story with a new piece of information I received from a new mysterious source. That’s what I got last night: “A pro “nex style” with A mount is in the works. It has a DSC-V3 style to it.” I posted the picture of the camera on top and you can find that camera on eBay only (Click here). One of the key info here is that the source said it’s a “NEX style” camera! So probably we are talking about an A-mount camera without viewfinder! That starts to makes a sense now! Could that be the third Alpha camera that will be announced along the A77 and A65?
Reminder: That is what another source told me two days ago: “The “nex pro” will indeed use the A-mount. Sony is marketing towards professionals who want it as a main camera and even as a 2nd camera. It may also have the standard Sony SLR/TLR shoe mount.”
One more thing: Be sure to follow SAR daily….I am working on many rumors!!! And thanks to all source for sending me info. I hope you understand that i usually try to doublecheck the info before to post the info you send to me 
Reminder (SR = Sonyrumor):
SR1=probably fake rumor
SR2=rumor from unknown sources
SR3=50% chance it is correct
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SR5=almost certainly correct!
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Marc
11 months ago |I really don’t know what to think about that.
I just can’t imagine a professional photographer using such a camera as main camera. Maybe 2nd camera, but not main camera.
Don Cox
11 months ago |The camera in the picture is marked “7.2 Megapixels”. I can’t imagine a professional using a 7.2 Megapixel camera as a spare in 2011.
Is this picture a Photoshop exercise?
Carl
11 months ago |The V3 is a 1/1.8″ sensor point and shoot from several years ago. The rumour is an alpha mount camera will have a similar form factor.
mwl
11 months ago |The post says “It has a DSC-V3 style to it.”
Steve
11 months ago |Its sound like it could be a better choice for ME than the NEX.
I have two a850’s but I also always carry a little Canon G12 in my bag for times that I can’t or don’t think it wise to point a850 with a “big” Zeiss at a street scene.
This camera could be a fantastic choice for me to attach my old Minolta 35-70 “mini-beercan” lens or even the little Minolta 50/1.4 I keep in my pocket anyway and the complete platform is still small enough to keep in my bag or even around my neck as a second.
If fact these old Minolta lenses may perform better on a cropped sensor than a full-frame.
If Sony markets a camera like this with a decent sensor I’ll buy it!
I have several small Minolta A-Mount lenses will work just fine so why would I want to add a this E-mount point-and-shoot cell phone camera upgrade to a already full bag if I don’t need to.
Sky_walker
11 months ago |True, true. I also would be more willing to buy it than new NEX body as long as price is competitive.
frosti7
11 months ago |Steve and Sky_walker, why wouldnt you get NEX-X(5) + E>A adaptor?
Isnt having both bayonets in one camera sounds abit better? because you can use c/mount/m-mount/e-mount lens as well? why wouldnt you want that?
I really dont understand you
acolyte
11 months ago |Size, frosti. Size. And weight.
Steve
11 months ago |Yes ad don’t forget the $7000 USD worth of A-mount glass much of it Zeiss, why would I want to pruchase this E-Mount stuff?
And I could then remove the Canon G12 from my bag!
frosti7
11 months ago |Steve,
ha?
your Alpha-NEX camera would be virtually same size as A35, they cant make it an inch thinner or narrower! the only thign i’tll be slightly less tall – thats it
add to that bulk a dslr lens, and your going to replace your G12 with that? in your dreams my freind
in all of our dreams….
if you want to replace G12 then get a nex-5 with a pancake
Carl
11 months ago |The A35 is hardly the smallest SLR ever. In fact some film era cameras are about the same size as the micro four thirds cameras are, despite containing a reflex mirror. Given that they can remove most of the mechanical components beside the shutter (and, hopefully, stabilisation), the only real limitation they have is in terms of depth to fit the required flange distance and height to fit the mount. They could have it D=49mm, H=60mm, W=95mm or there abouts, which is in point and shoot territory.
NEX adaptors won’t autofocus screw driven lenses. How much that is a problem will depend on what lenses you have. I don’t have a single SSM/SAM lens.
frosti7
11 months ago |Carl,
Thank you for describing my DREAM camera and my DREAM camer size, and that is pre-af SLR’s, they are perfect!
Unfourtenatly the only camera that resembels that size is the G series of panasonic, modern SLR’s&SLT’s are HUGE,
and this “NEX SLT” would be Huge as well (the sensor+back lcd taking much more space then film)
So panasonic G1 (or e mount nex-7) are much closer in size to the OLD slr
Carl
11 months ago |LCDs themselves are less than a millimetre thick, and plenty of smartphones with big LCDs/OLEDs are in the range of two-and-a-bit millimetres thick, with electronics. It’s more a problem of how they’re hinged that adds to the thickness, I think.
PhotoNut
11 months ago |Holy Angels on a stick!
Andrea, please understand that you cannot have a NEX Alpha-Mount Camera. That is like saying that Canon is coming out with with an EOS Alpha mount camera. It is impossible because “NEX” and “A-Mount” are camera mount specifications. You can’t have both. You can use adapters to go from NEX camera to Alpha Lens but you cannot go the other way. It is pretty much impossible. Hence a “NEX” camera that cannot mount NEX lenses cannot be legitimately called a NEX camera.
You know this yet you keep on printing this junk! Why? Don’t you have real news or rumors to report?
Geez!
DrSmouse
11 months ago |The keyword in this rumor is NEX “styled”. Something in the NEX form factor and size, but uses the A Mount and maintains the Alpha branding.
J-Man
11 months ago |It’s easy, a larger diameter mount than E-mount, then an E-mount adapter that doesn’t add to the mount depth, and an A-mount adapter. then you can use a FF sensor for the A-mount lenses, and have auto crop for the E-mount lenses.
So not impossible.
Jay
11 months ago |What’s the problem if one pro using this kind of camera and produces same good quality of pictures such that D3X/1DS/A900? who cares right?
If I’m the customer I really don’t care how it looks like, as long as it gives me what I want (quality pictures/images).
Go Sony!
DrSmouse
11 months ago |Replied to wrong post.
Pablo
11 months ago |Daaamn. I don’t want the A-Mount. I want the E-mount and the ability to adapt legacy glass.
Just hope, they make it so, that there is no mirror box, so hope, there will be space for adapters…
Buuut, if they include IBIS, it still could be the dream camera :>
123
11 months ago |Quick Reminder: (Patent) Sony is playing with the idea to make a compact translucent camera! + new type of translucent mirror http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/patent-sony-is-playing-with-the-idea-to-make-a-compact-translucent-camera-new-type-of-translucent-mirror/
acolyte
11 months ago |Thanks for the reminder, but it’s a patent though, and patent takes a long time to come to fruition don’t they? Maybe this is where the rumor guy takes his rumor from?
giovanni
11 months ago |no problem andrea… bring all rumors out u know .. just with SR1
acolyte
11 months ago |As long as it’s not littering the page
JACKIE CHAN
11 months ago |I can sure to say that such rumor on so called “A-mounted NEX-Pro” is nonsense.
- If the A-mount is used on NEX, the distance between NEX and A-mount lens should be the same as that on DSLR.
If so, size cannot be reduced.
- the E-A adaptor was here in the world, still SLR user can use A mount lens.
- The E-Mount lens road maps is on being developed.
Sky_walker
11 months ago |It’s a small A-mount camera with no viewfinder. Smaller than A55, so good enough to put it into jacket pocket. It’d also be far more discreet making it a good choice for street photography! Especially if you’ll mount some smaller lens on it, like the 50mm f/1.4 or something alike. Pro-quality, small DOF, small package.
As far as I understand it – this won’t be NEX camera nor have anything in common with E-bayonet beyond the small size.
Carl
11 months ago |Assuming it’s APS and they don’t make a full frame version, then 50mm isn’t going to be the most appealing focal length for a lot of people.
That said, Minolta/Sony made a number of small lenses, so 24/2.8, 28/2, 28/2.8, 35/2, 35/1.8 DT and 35-70/4 will all work nicely. The Sigma 30/1.4 is another option.
Sky_walker
11 months ago |It was just an example
Even Sony 35mm f/1.8 would do the job. Lenses aren’t really an issue. The size might be, so I’m very curious how Sony will handle this camera. NEX-C3 is unbelievably small for an APS-C sensor so I wouldn’t be surprised if the size difference between A55 and this camera would be really notable. (ofq mirror chamber would need to stay in there, even if no mirror would be used (in what I doubt), but there’s still quite a lot of space to “compress” in A55.)
Dude
11 months ago |I don’t see how this goes together.
A pro model but striped down by the EVF (and likely PDAF).
Wouldn’t that make more sense as a A290 entry level replacement?
Sure there are pros that would buy a button rich compact A-Mount camera as 2nd.
But considering the market share of Sony in Enthusiast/Pro segment, probably not many.
frosti7
11 months ago |Sky_walker, you have that camera already, its called nex-5+LAEA1 adpter
Sky_walker
11 months ago |Nah, it has too few controls, too bad grip and no AF (ok: no useful AF)
frosti7
11 months ago |Thats why we are waiting for NEX-7 to have same controls as pana’s G series,
About the AF, i already answered you, for peeps like me i’d prefer CDAF anyday
RichT
11 months ago |Guess it could be true, sounds a lot more plausible than a “real” NEX system based on an A-mount. In my head I’m picturing something looking kind of like that ugly old Olympus 4/3 system (was it the e-300 series?)
araru
11 months ago |Something is wrong with me….. i need small camera WITH viewfiner…. A mount or NEX mount nevermind…
John Peter
11 months ago |The DSC-V3 has an optical viewfinder with 84% coverage. If this baby has an EVF built in it could be a proposition worth looking at. For A mount it really has to be more than marginally smaller than A33/55 size.
Emopunk
11 months ago |Andrea, when you state it like this it makes me think of a rumor you posted quite some time ago. I can’t remember when, but there were also drawings and a sort of patent. It looked like a mirrorless a-mount camera, with rangefinder style. Now if it ever would be true, I would buy it at a glance. If it’s rugged, lots of manual controls and bearing latest great sensors it will be a joy to shove it around coupled to my Minolta 50mm f1.7 or my Sony 20mm f2.8. Hell, this whole thing makes me dream too much!!
Brendon
11 months ago |I am a little confused. If its a NEX camera that means it has no mirror. No mirror means the camera cannot do PDAF all non SAM/SSM lenses wont autofocus with the camera. So whats the point then ?
If it has a mirror then its really a Alpha DSLR (irrespective of whether it has a viewfinder or not) and shouldn’t be named as a NEX camera which is mirrorless.
Dude
11 months ago |Just a reminder.
Alpha is the band for all current interchangeable still cameras from Sony.
NEX-3/5, SLT, and DLSR.
NEX is the (side-)brand for E-Mount products of Alpha, Handycam, and NXCAM.
That does not mean the rumour source couldn’t have mixed up stuff…
frosti7
11 months ago |Dude, either your right, or either sony gone mad.
Sky_walker
11 months ago |Well, he speaks very specifically about A-mount, it’s something you can hardly confuse. BUT it’s a new source and rumor is given in quite an odd form so… my bet would be 50/50 that it might be true.
Sony is innovative and tries to create new kinds of stuff and new markets recently – so it’s likely they would seek for something like uber-small camera with standard DSLR bayonet mount.
frosti7
11 months ago |There is “0″ logic in such camera when you can have the E>A mount adapter (LAEA1)
then you get 2 cameras in one, and they are identical.
there is NO SENCE and NO POINT of producing identical to NEX camera only with Unmovable E>A Adapter (LAEA1)
Sky_walker
11 months ago |A-mount = uber AF and uber lenses
E-mount + adapter = almost-no-AF, terrible balance.
Still find no point in it?
Emopunk
11 months ago |Hell, Brendon, even in the title of the rumor there’s written “NEX-styled”. Don’t you find a difference in that?
NEX FULL FRAME (24x36)
11 months ago |I want an E Mount FullFrame NEX.
The A (Alpha) Mount is very restrictive.
On the A Mount you can only mount Alpha lenses and
M42 (with an adapter), nothing else.
The NEX Pro might have an interesting look but if
that’s the only NEX FullFrame that Sony is releasing I’ll have to pass.
A FullFrame E Mount NEX Sony. Make it happen! Sony can do it!
SonyA77
11 months ago |You can mount anything on the A-mount if there is an adapter for it.
Steve Jones
11 months ago |“You can mount anything on the A-mount if there is an adapter for it.”
Well, of course. However, it’s something of a tautology as you can obviously mount anything if there’s an adapter for it. However, the problem is that for many mounts it’s not practical to produce an adapter. The most obvious barrier is the register (the distance from the flange to the image plane). Many lenses have a much shorter register, and the only way those could ever be fitted onto A-Mount (without sacrificing infinity focus) is if the adapter included optical correction. That’s expensive and will degrade the image. Even if the register is larger than A-Mount, there still might not be sufficient space for the mechanics, especialy if there has to be provision for converting some automatic lens functions to manual.
The main reason the E-Mount is such a good one for adapters is that it has a very low register, giving ample room for the mechanics and no need for optical correction.
The following is a web page listing mounts by redgister
http://www.graphics.cornell.edu/~westin/misc/mounts-by-register.html
SonyA77
11 months ago |I was merely pointing out that you CAN mount more than M42.
acolyte
11 months ago |Steve was guarding against potential flamers
Sky_walker
11 months ago |On A-mount you can use:
M42 obviously, Nikon Ai, AiS, Pentax K, Minolta MD, Canon FD, T-mount lenses, telescopes, microscopes, Hasselblad-mount lenses, Tamron MF mount lenses, and some other less known things. Some of these require adapters with lens inside, some don’t, but the big question is:
What for? When you have such awesome lenses as Zeiss or such cheap lenses as plastic-fantastic SAM series. As long as I use A-bayonet camera I never had need to mount odd lenses with exception of some telescopes few times (they used T and M42 mounts, so it wasn’t any issue at all).
frosti7
11 months ago |If you can mount on NEX all of the above + E-Mount, then what for do we need native Alpha mount?
Sky_walker
11 months ago |I can mount even more lenses on camera obsucra. What for we’d need any other cameras than?
frosti7
11 months ago |I see your point there, but still, i dont see a benefit of such camera, the register diffrence between e&a mounts are what, 30mm? thats 3cm that you can add to NEX-5 making it a square camera
Carl
11 months ago |If you’re planning on using A mount lenses, those extra 28 millimetres are going to be there one way or another. At least this allows for a bigger grip.
FullFrame NEX!
11 months ago |This is very misleading, I would NEVER mount a lens using an optical adapter. We are discussing mounting using a simple space adapter.
The A mount can only handle A series natively and M42 with an adapter.
Stop misleading the subject.
The E mount can handle any lens with a space adapter.
tipper
11 months ago |“A FullFrame E Mount NEX Sony. Make it happen! Sony can do it!”
They can’t because the E mount is to small for fullframe!
FullFrame NEX! (24x36)
11 months ago |The E Mount is slightly larger than the Leica M mount.
The Leica M mount is a FullFrame mount.
Draw your own conclusions.
SonyA77
11 months ago |Going to have a hell of a job squeezing an auto-focus motor into a NEX styled body. If it doesn’t have an AF motor then it’s pointless for me.
john
11 months ago |IBIS too
tipper
11 months ago |Take a slide and hold it on the E mount. Mechanically it might work but the electronical contacts are in the “picture”.
This might be solved for a fullframe solution but the classical E mount with the actual contacts won’t work.
Carl
11 months ago |It would certainly be an interesting engineering exercise, but I wouldn’t say it would be impossible. They would need to use some gearing and put the motor to the right of the mount.
Stabilisation would be even tougher, but I’d say that’s doable too.
A good size EVF would fit if they didn’t try to fit it behind the mount, but instead shifted it to the side a bit.
NEX FULL FRAME (24x36)
11 months ago |@ SonyA77
You cannot mount just any lens to the Sony A mount. You can’t mount Nikon, Canon, Voigtlander/Leica M, Pentax, etc. and retain infinity focus. The Sony A mount is very prohibitive.
With the Sony E Mount you can mount all of the above mentioned lenses with the right adapter. In fact, the Sony E mount can handle almost any lens ever made!
SonyA77
11 months ago |You said you couldn’t mount them, you can using an appropriate adapter.
Don Cox
11 months ago |“Mount” implies mounting with focus to infinity. Simply attaching a lens is not much use if it won’t focus further away than six inches.
The E mount allows almost any SLR lens to be mounted and focus to infinity. The A mount does not.
SonyA77
11 months ago |I couldn’t care less what you got from it, the statement was incorrect, that’s all there is to it.
NEX FULL FRAME (24x36)
11 months ago |@ Sony A77
Your statement is incorrect. I can mount my coffee cup to my camera, but I wouldn’t expect to take pictures with it. You’re playing a game with semantics, not reality.
The Alpha mount can use A (Alpha) lenses from Sony and legacy A lenses from Minolta. M42 lenses can be used with an adapter. Those are the choices you have with the A mount.
The E Mount allows the use of almost any lens with the proper adapter. For the most part, the NEX adapters are inexpensive to boot.
If you need an adult to better explain this please find one.
Carl
11 months ago |A DSC-V3 like Alpha mount camera makes a lot more sense than describing it as a NEX camera, which we associate with the E mount.
Not necessarily a bad idea, but it would depend on the execution, I guess. Something tiny I could mount my Minolta 28/2 to and throw in my pocket would be great, but I fear they’d make it too big for there to be any point buying it over an SLT.
yurilee
11 months ago |To admin:
Just a thought….what if the mirror box is removed in the NEX style A mount camera for a Beam splitter!? what if it’s a Phase-detection 3 CMOS 3 color-specifically-translucent mirror camera?!
That would be totally Awesome!
Froo
11 months ago |No. It would be a RD-175. Bulky and worthless.
Sky_walker
11 months ago |Awesome color accuracy worthless? Lack of Bayer-filter crap worthless? Hardly.
Dude
11 months ago |But the beam splitter should be at the sensor plane.
So you don’t gain much, space wise.
NEX FULL FRAME (24x36)
11 months ago |P.S.
Andrea!
You misspelled Mystery in the title. In English, it’s spelled with a Y.
Keep the good news coming!
Carl
11 months ago |I don’t think Sony has made any TLRs, either.
Milos Janata
11 months ago |Could be confused with misery
julia
11 months ago |just E-mount fullframe please.
Chris
11 months ago |I think this latest impression of what the NEX7 will look like is probably reasonably accurate as I can see this as a logical progression from the NEX5, bearing in mind the rumored features. It would also tie in with the A-mount story as it would be easy enough to put an improved A-E adapter into the package making the camera a dual mount machine.
Sky_walker
11 months ago |Oh… A-mount camera with no viewfinder? And smaller one than A55? Could be interesting
And most importantly: it makes sense finally.
Carl
11 months ago |The DSC-V3 has an EVF concealed around the back, so it’s not like it requires composing off the LCD like a NEX does.
Here, let me shamelessly steal an image of dpreview to demonstrate; http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/SonyDSCV3/Images/inhand01.jpg
Assuming the rumoured camera is about the same size as the V3 as stated, I’d say it’s still a tad too big (or at least deep at ∼57mm). By comparison my Minolta XD is 29mm deep for the most part, using a raised bit around the mount to reach the correct flange distance.
Sky_walker
11 months ago |o_O oh… erm… it’s… TINY viewfinder.
For me if it’d be that size than equally well it could not exist at all and by this make body bit smaller & cheaper. Double benefit!
Carl
11 months ago |Yes, tiny, but the V3 is not a high end camera, it’s a point and shoot, and an old one at that.
EVF or not, I think the V3 is still a bit too big and they should aim for something even smaller.
Sky_walker
11 months ago |Yep, agreed. If it’s only possible than it’d be great to have it as small as possible.
acolyte
11 months ago |I had a DSC-V1, so I am not foreign to mini VFs
Terryfried
11 months ago |This seems to be a way round everyone complaining that the A77/A65 will be to big/small. people have diferent hand and finger sizes (even pros) so A77/A65 can grow to A700 size and this will drop in bellow A55 size for those in need of a more compact camara.
Carl
11 months ago |Maybe finally a realisation that “purse compact” and “pocket compact” are different things that appeal to different market segments.
Sky_walker
11 months ago |Well, Pentax mastered it before others….
LEdgars
11 months ago |It is a camera for people who don’t want mirror in the way of sensor. Cmn people, it is your dream camera!
To reduce size sensor will be put on the other side of LCD and you could cool it by putting ice on LCD (or after tilting).
Video will be endless!
Erik dP
11 months ago |The printed “SONY” on the camera looks a bit tilted. Is this a result of lack of Photoshop skills?
acolyte
11 months ago |It’s a V3 >.< Not a photoshopped NEX. It even has the word "Cybershot" on it!
Nico
11 months ago |Well, I don’t know what to think about that !?….
I’m waiting for a “better” Nex body to replace my Nex-5 (a FF is still a dream..), so IF this camera’d be the mysterious “Nex-Pro”, Bye bye Sony ….
I don’t care about a SLR camera (A-mount) without a viewfinder (liveview is already on the market), what’s the point ?!
So it’s just a bigger Nex (A-mount flange…) with big SLR lenses “only” ? Ah ah
Nex is a big success because it’s a tiny body on which you can mount and USE (with adapter) pretty all the different lenses you’ve got (slr, rf..), I’ve even replaced my Leica M8 with the Nex-5.. That’s why they don’t make more E-mount lenses !
Jos
11 months ago |It is just an other A-mount body with a different viewfinder, and it has nothing to do with E-mount or NEX.
But, the only important question is whether or not Sony will produce lenses that occupy the room where normally the mirror is located. (no retrofocus) If so these lenses are unusable in existing A-mount camera’s.
extra|ordinary
11 months ago |All I have to say is, if it has an A-mount, it had better be a full frame sensor. The idea whole idea only makes sense if the camera is full frame. That being said, if such a camera was released, I’d happily buy one. It would make a great compact/travel/tripod camera.
emarsh
11 months ago |This sounds like it could be a good thing. What I gather is that a small form factor ‘A’ mount camera is being developed, as well as a genuine Nex7 . Two seperate cameras and concepts. This would be awesome, I would like to have a camera like the Sonyv3/Canon g12, but have the ability to use interchangeable ‘A’ mount lenses. I hope Sony does release a camera such as this.
Dennis
11 months ago |Does anyone here have expertise about CDAF/PDAF? I’m wondering about the possible AF-performance of this rumored A-Mount mirrorless camera.
I thought you can only get decent CDAF-performance with specialized lenses but that it would be barely usable with “stupid” old lenses. I once read a comment here that focusing on NEX cameras barely works with A-Mount SSM or SAM lenses.
So with an A-Mount mirrorless camera, we would be left with stupid A-Mount lenses that were never designed for use with CDAF and also we wouldn’t be able to use newer E-Mount lenses. We would combine the disadvantages from both worlds…
To me, it would sound more appealing to construct an E-mount NEX with a built-in motor, and an awesome adapter, which allows autofocus with all A-Mount lenses. This would really lead to benefits, with the remaining disadvantage of losing PDAF.
Now if it would then be possible to make CDAF work at GH2-speed for all mounted stupid lenses (is that even possible? And why or why not?), then this would be a camera I’d really be interested in. With an EVF, this would be a true alternative to A77, giving us access to all possible lenses (with cheap adapters) and giving us back this 1/3 EV we would lose due to the extra sheet of glass in SLT. (and avoiding ghosting!).
frosti7
11 months ago |An E-A adaptor with motor would be ideal, besides that, i dont see reason to have your “nex-7″ camera just with built in and unremovable E-A adaptor.
In other words, why the hell do we need alpha mount nex if we can have nex+E-A adaptor?
Nico
11 months ago |+1
Sky_walker
11 months ago |frosti – you misunderstood it. Source doesn’t tell “Alpha-mount NEX” but “nex style” camera. Meaning: Small, portable camera, something on the edge of how small the SLR can be, most likely in SLT design, with no VF at all or very small EVF.
It’d use great AF lenses and be amazing secondary body for A-mount shooters. If I go on vacations I don’t want to pick 2 cameras with 2 completely different set of lenses (no, using the adapter A->E mount isn’t an option), this solution would essentially solve the issue. I want to be small & light – I pick small & light camera without compromising picture or autofocus. I want to be comfortable, I pick A580 / A900 or other normal-sized camera. At the time I have only one set of lenses and nothing to worry about.
If made well this concept can actually work. But don’t look on it as a competition for NEX – it’s not. It’d be a secondary camera for times when you need good AF and good lenses. Nothing akin to NEX which moved towards body with manual focusing lenses.
frosti7
11 months ago |There are 3 problems.
1)Such camera would not handle the “PRO” lens (like 70-200 f2.8) adequately as the SLT-A35 would, besides, you do need a EVF for the big “PRO” lens, can we agree to that?
2)width&hight wise the SLT-A35 is almost the same size as the mirrorless panasonic GH1, the main difference is in the depth (because of the flange back distance) so=> a “nex style alpha mount” would NOT be much smaller then SLT-A35
3)As small as it would be, its still far bigger then a NEX, and require VIrtually same bag-size as the slt-a35, take the BIG lens into account, and you end up with exactly the same sized bag as SLT-a35 system.
Sorry sky but The removal of EVF is-not-going-to-help-size-wise! it will be too big for the biggest pocket, and that, withought talking about lens.
Sky_walker
11 months ago |A-mount or even: any PDAF optimized lenses won’t work with CDAF. For quick focusing with CDAF you need lenses build specifically for this. Otherwise they move as fast as if you’d use LA-EA1 on NEX-5. Meaning: Total crap.
frosti7
11 months ago |Then its just a SLT camera with no EVF, Such camera makes “0″ sens to me, it will be H U G E compared to NEX-5 or NEX-7, it wont be NEARLY pocketable, we are tlaking about 3X thicker then NEX-5, which already not pocketablee…
sony gone MAD! instead of investing in the fine NEX system they are wasting everyones time!
CDAF beats the CR*P out of PDAF!
Yes you heard it right!
I hade a DSLR canon 40D, but my CDAF GH1 is so much more accurate and reliable then PDAF ever was for me!
i’d prefer CDAF much more (i dont shoot action)
Sky_walker
11 months ago |“Then its just a SLT camera with no EVF,”
Size and form-factor. It will be bit bigger than NEX-7 but most likely: not very much. Thinner perhaps, but overally bigger – not really, especially if someone makes a nice working design, while NEX-7 will be pro-oriented what forces bigger body than this of NEX-5 due to ergonomics and need of button placement.
EVF or OVF isn’t only element camera has, don’t you think?
“CDAF beats the CR*P out of PDAF!” – awesome. Move along, move along..
frosti7
11 months ago |Sky_Walker, did you shoot with a good CDAF system like the panasonic GH1? compared it to PDAF?
I have shot about 60,000 photographs with canon EOS dSLR’s and 32,000 with Panasonic GH1,
My keeper rate with the EOS system was bout 65-80% (and that’s after numerous front/back AF calibrations at the lab)
I happily got over 95% of keepers (focus wise, of course) with the GH1 CDAF, every shot was just on spot! i n c r e d i b l e!
and that’s my friend called “statistics”
Sky_walker
11 months ago |Frosti – I know how CDAF works
it’s accuracy is a part of system characteristic, as same as missing AF is part of PDAF characteristic. Noone argues about that 
I don’t get what do you try to prove here?????
that all bayonets gonna die and all that will remain gonna be m4/3 and NEX? IMO: it’s on the edge of impossibilness.
That you are happy with your camera system? – I’m very glad of it, really.
That Sony should have made uber-NEX camera? They plan to release NEX-7 and it’s by far more certain than this’ thing’. But at the time Sony clearly placed NEX family between compact cameras and reflex cameras in their hierarchy of advancment – so far they keep it exactly there, even if you’ll check the parameters of lenses for NEX it looks like they intentionally not release anything to compete the A bayonet by too far. A bayonet will remain as advanced system while NEX will remain as high-quality portable system.
No need to fight – everything has it’s place and neither your or my opinion gonna change it.
If you try to tell us that mirrorless cameras are future and it’s where we and sony should move – it might be, it might be not, but certainly: it isn’t currently. Not when entire system is made of 4 or 3 lenses, 3 cameras and 2 silly flash units. Even by sole form-factor the m4/3 being much much more developed cannot compete with ‘big’ systems – mainly due to ergonomics and generic usefulness in pro works.
Im’ glad you are so enthusiastic about it – it’s really good character feature, but never the less reality of current day is bit different and biggest photography companies don’t even have a single mirrorless camera so most of the ILC potential is still hidden in clouds of future, all I hope is that everyone will be abe to get the camera they will work with pleasure – whatever it’d be ILC for one or reflex camera for another.
frosti7
11 months ago |Sky_walker
I’m not against having an extra SLT camera, but i’m afraid that sony might neglect the NEX-7 for this camera, by reasoning that alpha system has more lens and more pro oriented, which is true,
but thats not what allot of people are looking for.
Personally i think that SLT-A35 can be reduced in size, leaving out the EVF would gain you so little that it would not change the way your dealing with the camera, it would still require same “camera-bag”
Anyway, i wish everone would get what they want eventually
john
11 months ago |“CDAF beats the CR*P out of PDAF!
Yes you heard it right!”
Yes the GH1 has instantaneous auto focus of a bowl of fruit.
But for low light or fast tracking BIF/sports it wont be replacing a good DSLR anytime soon.
A lot of people enjoy wildlife photos (Birds In Flight)
or have children/pets (Children/Pets In Flight)
I doesn’t have to be about sports just tracking some fast unpredictable subject.
frosti7
11 months ago |1)If you want BIF/SPORTS then you want DSLR! not “NEX STYLE SLT”
Thats one of my points…if you want compact you are not shooting action.
2)dont forget that some people(actually almost everyone) dont shoot action
Sky_walker
11 months ago |“if you want compact you are not shooting action.” – this doesn’t compute. As my friend would say. It doesn’t work this way, sorry.
“2)dont forget that some people(actually almost everyone) dont shoot action” – that’s true. These folks wont have any issues with mirrorless cameras if they like shooting with no OVF.
Never the less – PDAF lenses working on CDAF camera will be still too slow even for them. Unless they photograph landscapes or something equally motionless.
john
11 months ago |Form factor, ergonomics, UI
PhotoNut
11 months ago |If Andrea reported that Sony was going to be selling gold plated dog p**p, many of the Sony fan club here would be screaming that they would buy it pre-ordered and that it would help their photography or would make a great second camera.
I’m so sick and tired of the ignorant people and corporate shills on here who put their brains in their pocket once a new “rumor” is posted here even if such a rumor is by definition impossible.
Almost the same thing has happened to DPREVIEW’s Sony Alpha DSLR forum which has now been reduced to the rah-rah rubbish of Sony P&S upgraders: stupid questions, poor pictures, poor post-processing, stupid fan-boy arguments and trolling. In short lots of lights and noise but very little substance.
Andrea, you need to increase the quality of your posts because you shouldn’t be writing articles that sound like you don’t understand cameras and their register distances, the difference between Sony Alpha mount vs. Sony NEX mount and the difference between a troll rumor and a legitimately possible rumor/speculation.
john
11 months ago |“I’m so sick and tired of the ignorant people and corporate shills on here who put their brains in their pocket once a new “rumor” is posted here even if such a rumor is by definition impossible.”
STOP coming here then.
Raul S.
11 months ago |Unless they have already developed a production sensor with PDAF built-in, this post makes no sense.
frosti7
11 months ago |ADMIN: Is this camera supposed to be instead of NEX-7 or supplement?
Carl
11 months ago |In addition to.
Though if the size is similar they may well share parts between them.
kalpurush :)
11 months ago |Mr. Nut
Why you are taking on Sony Fans? Means you are not a Sony fan?
Then you should not be here as it is a Sonyalpharumor site dedicated to Sony fans.
One thing you do NOT understand that it is a rumor site NOT a official Sony site. All you do is promoting personal hate towards admin and Sony fans which is NOT acceptable.
So please be polite and convey your messages accordingly.
Carl
11 months ago |The internet is like that. There’ll always be someone who indignantly pees in the sandpit.
ms
11 months ago |could this be an FF mirrorless? If sony releases one of those with decent ergonomics (ie actually button switches and not just a touch screen) then I think they’d hit a home run…. perhaps the A-mount refers to the diameter of the mount vs the flange distance? Is the A-mount wider than the E-mount or are they the same? A modern alternative to the M9 that allows for close focusing (with live view or EVF) and telephoto work would be AMAZING… I’d drop my 5D for that in a heart beat (and just adapt my zeiss glass or maybe get some nice AF zeiss glass through sony).
Nico
11 months ago |As an A-mount body, you won’t be able to mount Leica M lenses !
If the mount is at a flange distance from the sensor for A-mount lenses, it’ll be too far for Rangefinder lenses…
Carl
11 months ago |It’s easy to adapt Leica R mount lenses to A mount, if that’s any consolidation.
Dulaney Ward
11 months ago |Maybe the sources are confused about this: NEX cameras are Alpha cameras, but use the e-mount rahter than the a-mount, whereas Alpha a-mount cameras simply cannot be e-mount or NEX) cameras.
But this makes me wonder whether Sony might not have broken through on PDAF or CDAF.
john
11 months ago |Yes who will be the first to crack the code.
Then all we would need is global shutter and cameras would become digital.
Walt
11 months ago |How amusing! Folks allow Sony to lie and call their SLT a DSLR, so why can’t they call anything they want a NEX? Makes as much sense as calling a SLT a DSLR.
And incidentally, the mount used on NEX cameras so far is the E Mount, not the NEX mount.
Probably whatever it is Sony will call it a DSLR to try and fool more beginners as to what they are buying.
kalpurush :)
11 months ago |Shooting guns too early perhaps!? Isn’t it just a rumor?
Sensel
11 months ago |The picture here is just to show the now discontinued V3.
As for this rumor I VERY MUCH HOPE SO!!! I would buy an A mount rangefinder in a split second!
For those who say a pro would not use it: Tell it to Cartier Bresson who used a Leica rangefinder with interchangeable lenses. Hopefully he was a pro…
luc
11 months ago |The only way such a camera could be attractive would be with some kind of sensor based phase detection autofocus, allowing fast focussing and removal of the SLR/SLT mirror. It would be cool.
ToddAO
11 months ago |MIST STORY
Davidlam
11 months ago |If it is FF EVIL with 1080 60p with a decent external EVF, then it is a Video DSLR killer.
Sony now support 3 mounts, E-mount on NEX, A-mount on SLT/SLR, ARRI-PL on PROCAMs.
PL to A-mount is also possible, so we can take still pictures with ARRI PL-mount Cine lenses – GREAT!
But how can it achieve fast & accurate AF with SLR lenses???
Kiril
11 months ago |So no more nex-7 hopes
The af debate is irrelevant. Sony & Fuji have PDAF built into sensors so the translucent and other mirrors wil simply go in history books. Slow CDAF reserved for korean cameras
Miroslav
11 months ago |NEX with IBIS + A mount adapter with semi transparent mirror = A mount camera. It’s what NEX-7 should be based on. No lack of lenses, no confused and disappointed users. I don’t know why Sony didn’t do that in the first place, they have the technology.
That one should be for enthusiasts, lower NEXes for the masses.
Emopunk
11 months ago |+1 @Miroslav
RAZ
11 months ago |THINK !!!!
No mirror = No image degrading !
[You should read the British Journal of Photography review of the A55 to see how bad it really is!!]
No mirror = No 30% light loss… Therefore less amplification of signals, therefore less noise.
AND…
No mirror = Less COST !!
Understand the Biz bit, at least!!