(SR3) First NEX-7 specs…
Finally I got some NEX-7 specs to share with you!
1) The NEX-7 has a metal body
2) A new super fast contrast autofocus
3) Built-in 3 million dot OLED viewfinder
4) 24 Megapixel
5) ISO 100-25.600
6) 24p HD-video
7) Pop-up flash
I hope my sources can confirm if the the camera really has no FullHD recording! That would b a huge surprise! I hope this is just a typo from the rumor sender!
Reminder (SR = Sonyrumor):
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SR2=rumor from unknown sources
SR3=50% chance it is correct
SR4=rumor from known sources (60-80% the rumor is correct)
SR5=almost certainly correct!
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Marc
10 months ago |So if it has the same sensor as the upcoming A65 and A77, it’s hard to believe that it doesn’t come with full 1080p video recording.
720p is nice too, but video resolution in the upper NEX class should be at least 1080p (like the NEX-5), I guess that’s a mistake.
Nightingale
10 months ago |wonder if the A77 has the same “new super fast contrast autofocus”.
Would be nice
Edgars
10 months ago |If A77 mirror does not moving only PCAF make sense. For sure PCAF is faster anyway.
Steve Jones
10 months ago |Contrast detect AF is still a nice option in addition to PAF on the A77 as it is often more accurate and suited to some subjects (like some studio work). I’d also like to see a contrast peaking too.
Steve Jones
10 months ago |Nb. worth adding that contrast detect AF is available on the A580, so I see no reason why it couldn’t be put on an SLR A77 as an option. It is, after all, just an image processing algorithm being run against the main sensor output.
Sky_walker
10 months ago |“I’d also like to see a contrast peaking too.”
+1
It’d be huge advantage for M42 users. And would help with STF lens. I’d love to see that implemented in A77/65!
Edgars
10 months ago |I would love PDAF peaking for MF lenses.
I think if Sony add CDAF in A77, then many people will remove mirror and use it as mirrorless. I just have suspicious, that Sony try to keep away people from this trend.
Sky_walker
10 months ago |People already do that with A55. It’s manual focusing, sure, but ability to zoom-in part of the image makes miracles to astro-photographers.
Right now A55 is one of best cameras for that purpose: no mirror shake, +1/3 EV when mirror is removed, very good high-ISO quality, nice compatibility with T2 lenses… 
Irfan
10 months ago |Mirrorless cameras have faster CDAF because lenses are designed for CDAF system. A-mount lenses are designed for PDAF system. A77 will never match NEX for CDAF AF speed.
Steve Jones
10 months ago |That’s not the point – I wasn’t expecting an A-Mount lens to match the NEX on speed using contrast AF. For those situations where contrast AF is appropriate, speed of focussing is not a priority. It’s the accuracy that matters and appropriate software ought to be able to sort out any issues of backlash in the gearing. After all, the A580 can do contrast-based AF as can competitor DSLRs which, similarly, have lenses which aren’t optimised for contrast AF.
Matt
10 months ago |I don’t think I have ever seen 24p 720 video, so hopefully that means 1080 or should mean 1080. But more importantly I hope it has at least 24Mbps AVCHD. To me that is more important and hopefully fingers crossed it has 28Mbps 50/60p that Sony are finally adopting in their cams. No more of this quasi interlaced rubbish please?
frosti7
10 months ago |+1
24p is a 1080p standart, especially because sony uses AVCHD exlusivly(not mjpeg)
so if it has 24p it could only be FullHD
Tom
10 months ago |24p could also mean that it is at 480p, so no… does not automatically mean that it is 1080.
Matt
10 months ago |No. AVCHD format is only for HD resolutions so it does mean 1080.
And the fact that the rumor states 24p HD. So no not 480.
Tom
10 months ago |Yes, your right it is HD, so 480 is out. I also think it would be ridiculous for Sony to step back to 720, so I’m pretty sure were both in agreement that it will be 1080. With respect to AVCHD, specifically, though, AVCHD does support 480/29.97, 576(PAL)/25, 720/23.976, 720/50, 720/59.94, 1080/23.976, 1080/25, 1080/29.97, 1080/50, 1080/59.94, and a couple of stereoscopic modes.
xedi
10 months ago |HD doesn’t mean that it is not full HD. There is no way that a Nex-7 will have worse specs than a Nex-5 concerning video resolution.
OldScotch
10 months ago |“24p” is a meaningless term. It’s probably meant to say “24 fps”. There’s no indication of “FullHD” listed in the rumoured specs, it just says HD which technically could be anything above 480. Even “FullHD” is just a marketing term, as far as I know it doesn’t refer to any actual standard.
*edit – whoops, meant to reply to Tom’s comment, not yours specifically xedi..
J-Man
10 months ago |24p refers to 24 ‘Progressive’ frames per second,
so film students will be happy.
FULLHD is marketing speak to elevate 1080p
above the other HD formats that were more common than 1080p, such as 720i, 720p, & 1080i.
Agent.Pires
10 months ago |What’s the deal with the NEX-5N then. If the NEX-7 is coming in at a higher tier than the NEX-5 what specs can we expect in the NEX-5N?
frosti7
10 months ago |I would guesse it would be the same camera with the nex-3c sensor
J-Man
10 months ago |Think NEX7 but without the EVF and maybe the c3 sensor.
Eric
10 months ago |Andreas,
If there’s a 3million dot EVF, that means its resolution is 1280×800 (16:10 ratio). 1280x800x3 = 3,072,000 dots.
As a NEX-5 owner, I’m hoping for a few things:
1. 16MP or 18MP sensor instead of 14MP.
2. LCD monitor that can also swing left and right.
3. LCD monitor with OLED technology for better contrast and colors.
(that would make an EVF less necessary)
4. Better buffer for maybe 8fps in speed mode, and that would last for at least 24 continuous frames.
5. Faster AF, as you already mentioned
6. ISO 100 – 12,800 range. ISO100 is more important for me. ISO 12,800 is already very poor on the NEX-5, so I don’t expect the higher ISO25,600 at all.
7. Another physical button for user-custom setting.
8. Stronger battery – maybe 1500 mAh, with same voltage.
9. It would be super-nice if the LCD is touch-capable, for stuff like touch-focus.
10. Bundled zoom lens that has an aperture of at least f/2.8.
11. Retail Price: less than 550 euro.
Vlad
10 months ago |Dream on with that price. I would like also stabilization though.
Eric
10 months ago |Oh, and I also forgot to add:
12. 1080p with Euro and US frame-rates of 50fps and 60fps, with AVCHD 2.0 spec (28mbps, I think)
RTI
10 months ago |>>11. Retail Price: less than 550 euro.
kk, now delete points from 2-11.
My December
10 months ago |It’s funny that people wants all of the goodies, but want to pay less.
Raul S.
10 months ago |Retail price less than 550 euros? hahahaha good one…
Paul
10 months ago |Surely he meant to say “24hz 1080p HD video”.
admin
10 months ago |Yes I think so.
Carl
10 months ago |I’m assuming the ISO range is the same as the A77.
admin
10 months ago |ISO range is higher on the A77 because of the better dual Bionz processor (I guess).
RTI
10 months ago |Andrea, are there any rumors of a possible In body stab? Thanks.
admin
10 months ago |No!
frosti7
10 months ago |Would not happen,
i think its too much heat for small body IBIS, especially for video.
Beisdes NEX standard is also for Camcorders – who would prefer to use OSS,
so no, i dont think we will see IBIS in the near future
Dennis
10 months ago |@admin: I don’t think we should be too optimistic about A77 having a higher ISO range. With the pellicle mirror in the way, the A77 should be inferior to the NEX7 in low light. And even a super quadruple extended Hexa-Bionz wouldn’t be able to find out details about the picture which were not detected by the sensor. Maybe noise reduction could be slightly better, but there’s no reason why NEX7 should provide smaller ISO range than A77 when shooting RAW.
If A77 also has a range of 100-25600 with 25600 being unusable and 12800 barely usable (this is what I would expect if 25600 is the max), there won’t be any high-ISO revolution. This would seriously leave me with the desire to remove the pellicle mirror. Maybe they will give us multi-shot ISO 102400, but I really don’t care. Still objects can also be captured using a tripod – it’s moving subjects where high ISO is interesting.
Concluding, I must say that these specs would be very disappointing regarding the Sony executives predicting “ISO in the hundreds of thousands” last year.
JOSÉ MARIA
10 months ago |With all due respect, “ISO in the Hundreds of thousands” will determine the end of the flash? With this ISO, the A77 will see better than us!
I wish that Sony has improved the noise in your sensor as the Nikon does.
And with “ISO in the Hundreds of thousands” with low noise, this is a revolution.
Sky_walker
10 months ago |Sony already has outrun Canon so… it ain’t bad anyway.
Spoon
10 months ago |Agreed on the first part but wasn’t the claim about ISO in the hundreds of thousands based on a rumor? I don’t recall Sony executives stating anything like that. I do remember someone from Sony stating it would be atleast as good as the A55 in this regard. Also disagree that high ISO isn’t interesting for non moving subjects as not everyone likes carrying around a tripod.
zstan
10 months ago |ISO in hundreds of thousands here would mean high iso noise reduction stacking images.
Spoon
10 months ago |Stacking indeed, but they would have to find another 2 stops over the stacking possibilities of the A55. More frames could help, but 2 extra stops… We’ll see.
Dulaney Ward
10 months ago |The phrase “ISO into the hundreds of thousands” was a quote from a Sony official in January, and confirmed by Amateur Photographer a little while later.
Edgars
10 months ago |If I compare RAW + LR3 with in camera JEPG at any ISO there is clear difference. PC hardware make sense because camera not allowed to endless processing. People want pictures immediately.
With A900 I’m trying to keep sensitivity under ISO800, sometimes rise till ISO1600. I would be really happy if I could use ISO3200 and ISO6400 instead. It means I hope for 2 stop advantage over A900. A55 and A580 difference is 0.5 stops, but you just call excellent ISO3200 as inferior. What about A900 then? But of course is hard to believe in excellent 102400, even with multi-shot stacking.
BMan
10 months ago |And I’m assuming the A77 has ISO 200-51200 with extension to 102400 (and maybe 204800 in multi shot mode).
Hence the “ISO in the hundreds of thousands” statement.
Carl
10 months ago |Maybe everything over 25600 is extended ISO?
Edgars
10 months ago |Agree, rather extension is 51200 and 102400, because already 25600 is extremely high ISO.
contraspirit
10 months ago |ISO 100 would be much welcome. And ISO 80 even more.
Carl
10 months ago |There’s nothing much to gain from shooting a CMOS sensor at lower than native ISO. Aside from avoiding attaching an ND filter when the sun’s bright.
AlphaSd
10 months ago |There is no surprise
Kiril
10 months ago |As NEX-5 owner myself
1. One more button
2. Flash adapter
3. Minimum shutter speed (after whiich iso gets pushed up; currently this is roughly twice the focal length which is problem with the 16mm as camera tends to use low iso 1/30th and produces very soft images)
4. metering can be improved
On teh display side – I DO NOT want OLED. OLED is terrible in brigth light much worse then the NEX LED display. Even the most advanced AMOLED as seen on Samsung Galaxy S II is much worse then the NEX TruBlack display. Simply said sony make much more advanced displays then Samsung can ever hope to, Samsung though make great advertisement of their mediocre OLED technology.
The Lotus Eater
10 months ago |But nobody has mentioned an OLED display, have they? Only an OLED viewfinder has been mentioned. Seeing as your eye would cover the viewfinder, sunlight would not be an issue.
Spoon
10 months ago |You couldn’t be more wrong as l’m holding them both in bright sunlight here. Brightness is comparable but the S2 walks all over the Sony LCD regarding *visibility*. Thanks to far superior contrast and viewing angles. OLED used to be bad in bright sunlight, now it’s the benchmark.
Bilby
10 months ago |1080 60p movie mode!!! Like the compact camera HX9V. The missing 1080 60P mode in the A77 (/ NEX-7?)specification is rather strange.
Tom
10 months ago |24p is more important for me. It would be nice to have 60p if I wanted to do some overcranked shots, I suppose. The more framerates, the merrier, as long as it handles the basic 24 (23.976), 25, 30 (29.97) first.
NEXfive
10 months ago |As a NEX-5 user I totally dislike this bulky NEX-7 viewfinder, the proprietary hot shoe and this retro styled grip. The specs are showing nothing but normal technical improvements one could expect after more than a year. Expecting this camera to cost more near € 1000,– than around € 550,– as Eric hopes in his topic 11. I won’t change my wonderful NEX-5 at all. Eric’s 6. and 12. are already on my Firmware 05 Wish List anyway…
The Lotus Eater
10 months ago |If you don’t like the NEX-7 features, then keep your NEX-5! Lots of others will like those features.
I don’t think 6. and 12. will be in Firmware 05, if there is a Firmware 05 at all. You can hope, but those features ain’t gonna happen on the NEX-5, I would bet my house on it.
NEXfive
10 months ago |I don’t mind others to like what I dislike. But I like to be allowed to wish what I like to wish and if I’d be into betting I’d visit a betting site.
BTW I wouldn’t really expect the NEX-FS100 slow motion features on the NEX-7 either.
frosti7
10 months ago |Liking or disliking is of course personal opinion,
but calling the NEX-7 EVF as “bulky” is plain wrong and incorrect, try to goggle “E-P2 EVF” for some comparison
J-Man
10 months ago |Bulky???? Are you looking at the same picture as the rest of us?
I do hope it’s a standard hotshoe.
Sky_walker
10 months ago |It looks like it does have standard hotshoe
which is great.
(as long as you use iISO hotshoe)
The Lotus Eater
10 months ago |Andreas, I really don’t know why you think the mention of “24p HD-video” means it won’t be full HD.
If your sources had mentioned 720/24p video, then I could understand you worrying, but they haven’t as far as I can tell.
Yoshio
10 months ago |And, where’s my hot-shoe flash slot?
I want to have it
Gemoajo
10 months ago |Andreas,
Is there any rumors about the successor to NEX 5?
Dee
10 months ago |any ideas when either the NEX-7 or the NEX-5 replacement is due? I’m hoping before October
Pablo
10 months ago |Gosh… I guess I can only dream about IBIS now, that there is no clue about it anywhere :<
However, yes, I want ISO 100, better white balance, and don't care about AF speed, as I focus everything manually, as the plastic lenses aren't worth a sh*t compared to some serious glass…
AND, I hope, it will be quickly available in stores for a reasonable price, so I don't have to wait for a year for it to come down :s
The Lotus Eater
10 months ago |What plastic lenses are you referring to, Pablo?
NEXfive
10 months ago |Yes, Pablo, I guess SONY has decided their complete NEX line from NEX-3 up to FS100 to work with OSS only instead of coming with IBIS.
But at least all E-Mount autofocus lenses aren’t completely made of plastic like most other autofocus lenses, nevertheless I’m also loving to focus my old and fast manual metal lenses with new focus peaking, yeah!
Eric
10 months ago |@Dee,
Andreas mentioned that Sony will officially announce the new NEX cameras in late August. They will be available for sale in October.
@NEXfive,
I also wish points 6 and 12 would make it into a 05 Firmware release for the NEX-5. However, I don’t think Sony will do that. Those features would probably wait for us in the NEX-5N or NEX-7.
NEXfive
10 months ago |Well, since I remember some reports while last year’s summer heat about overheating NEX-5 while filming I doubt 50/60p slow motion to be possible on recent NEX-5.
But SONY could give us the region free option to choose between US-30p and European-25p, a time lapse option plus another grid better pointing out the movie area. I’m not sure if ISO 100 is technically possible and also opening the USB Port for external controls like Follow Focus (see here: http://www.vimeo.com/19341897), for Flash Sync and to use as Audio In. But so far that’s my Firmware 05 Wish List…
pancanikonpus
10 months ago |The date is getting close!
Eric
10 months ago |By the way, the current NEX-5 is being sold at Saturn shops in Europe for 475 Euro (bundled with the 18-55 kit lens).
Here’s proof:
http://www.saturn.at/produktinfo/?cat=N08.03.07.&groupId=1&parentCat=T00.00.12.10.&sku=1149419&keyword=NEX&searchtype=nav
So wishing for a 550 Euro target price for a new NEX camera is reasonable. right?
NEXfive
10 months ago |When you compare the actual prices for NEX-5 and NEX-C3 I’d expect the NEX-7 with one lens to cost between € 700 and 1000,– depending on the features:
http://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/eu/531247 (NEX-5 incl SEL1855 starting at € 441,86)
http://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/eu/651603 (NEX-C3 incl SEL1855 starting at € 486,42)
If Andrea’s 24 Megapixel sensor will come true, I’d see the NEX-7 more towards the thousand…
Marc
10 months ago |@Eric
“wishing for a 550 Euro target price” – Yes, I agree, you may wish for that price. But it’s very unlikely.
When the NEX-5 kit came out, the price was around 650 €. And since the NEX-7 is situated in a higher class, the initial price won’t be below 850-900 € when it comes out.
Don Cox
10 months ago |I would rather the price was whatever it needs to be to get a well made camera, not some consumer product built down to a price.
If they want to lower the price, they could sell the body without a lens.
Opliger
10 months ago |The current A55 kit is being sold at Saturn shops for 725 euro. Do you think wishing for a 800 euro target price for a new A77 kit is reasonable?
Marc
10 months ago |I predict that the A55 and A55 kit prices will soon fall when the as the A65 and A77 were presented (same with A33 when the A35 came out).
And since the A77 kit doesn’t include the standard cheap 18-55 lens, 800€ is just impossible. I think the retail price will be around 1000-1050€ for the A77 BODY ONLY, it might hit 900€ in a few months, but it will take a while until it hits the 800€ range.
If you want a cheaper kit, you want to have a look a the A65 kit, that one might be available for about 800€ at the end of this year.
Andy
10 months ago |All I want aside from the usual 1080p 28mb video is
BLOODY MANUAL CONTROLS FOR VIDEO!!
Damn it if it was implimented for Nex 5′s firmware M4/3 would have a major rival already!
Also any release date estimation?
Rkieux
10 months ago |Still zero news or image or anything on Nex 5N. It’s about to be announced soon. Nex C3 had so much more info at this stage.
Technomad
10 months ago |I paid £430 for the NEX-5 c/w 18-55mm lens back in April – bought it from the Dixons store in Edinburgh Airport. Then paid £589 for the 18-200mm at Heathrow (both prices included UK VAT).
And, as long as the NEX-7 is compact, robust, provides pro-level manual controls and ISN’T styled like a DSLR, I’ll buy it – price is very much secondary, as what I need is a high-grade compact camera that is unobtrusive and doesn’t create the ‘pro photographer’ impression that waving a DSLR does. Want it built to a standard, not down to a price.
As for lenses, a tolerably fast Zeiss 16-80mm will tick my boxes nicely – the lens I most miss on the NEX is the fabulous 4/3 Zuiko 12-60 f2.8-3.5.
Björn Utpott
10 months ago |I don’t believe this is a credible rumor. The specifications are so obvious and/or based on previous rumors that anyone could have come up with them. They also don’t add anything new.
1) The NEX-7 has a metal body
That’s to be expected given that the cheaper NEX-5 has a metal casing. Now higher end models don’t always have a metal body when their cheaper siblings do, but I think Sony will want to create the impression of a high end product by using metal. They did the same with the E system lenses.
2) A new super fast contrast autofocus
Sony has had more than a year to improve AF, something they certainly need to do in order to remain competitive. It’s also likely that any improvements will first be seen in their high end model.
3) Built-in 3 million dot OLED viewfinder
Makes sense to fit the NEX-7 with technology that’s the same or related to the A77. Both are premium products.
4) 24 Megapixel
Again nothing we didn’t already know here.
5) ISO 100-25.600
It’s likely that the sensitivity range will be expanded even if for nothing other than marketing reasons.
6) 24p HD-video
This will end up being as high a specification as possible in order to compete with the GH2 and its successor.
7) Pop-up flash
Competing CSCs with integrated EVF all have a pop-up flash, so this also seems likely.
So there’s nothing revolutionary or unexpected here. Anybody could’ve written this list. Of course that means that it could very well be true.
hiepphotog
10 months ago |So how is it that you don’t believe in this rumor when you basically agree with every single one of them? I know with peaking, this will be my next purchase to accompany my A900.
Björn Utpott
10 months ago |I believe the list of specifications, I just don’t believe it’s a rumor from any kind of a source with inside information. It’s really just a list of specifications that have been posted before; it doesn’t really add anything new. Probably why it was only rated as having a 50% chance that it was true.
The Lotus Eater
10 months ago |So this IS a credible rumour then, seeing as you basically agree with every single point.
kalpurush :)
10 months ago |What Bjorn is saying that there is no new info in current rumor
GJH2
10 months ago |Watch out Sony, the Samsung NX200 is coming for ya!
Joey C
10 months ago |Add me to those hoping for 60p and not interlaced video in the camera I end up with. Still undecided A55, A77 or NEX7
Tom
10 months ago |There are no cameras that I can think of today or in the last several years that are interlaced. Interlaced has pretty much died. Due to codec reasons, sometimes the progressive video is stored in an interlaced container, but fear not, it does not mean that the video comes out interlaced any more than your photos are changed at all when you put them into a zipped folder. Some advantages of interlaced are that they can play back without transcoding on some older displays or players that don’t support newer progressive formats. Some advantages of progressive codecs is increased efficiency of the encoding/decoding. However, optical performance isn’t significantly different between any two intermediate i/p codecs, it all does come down to the original sensor capture (which today is 99.9999% progressive).
ty
10 months ago |I have a NEX5 and it is a great camera. Few improvements are welcome.
1. HDR can be activated without first disabling RAW recording.
2. VF, which NEX7 will have
3. Standard hot shoe
Raul S.
10 months ago |You can expect Sony/Minolta proprietary hot shoe on NEX-7, not standard, but you can get a converter and then have standard hot shoe.
The smart accessory port is going to be used on lower end models…
Maley
10 months ago |No native ISO102400 = no deal. What a joke.
The Lotus Eater
10 months ago |You ARE joking, right?
dac38
10 months ago |FW based Intervalometer ? Isnt it supposed to be NEX-Pro?
matgay
10 months ago |is this a-mount or e-mount???
Rushmore
10 months ago |24P really ?
But sony hates their customers
narTmoT
10 months ago |I knew it was highly unlikely, and I know this is only an SR3 rumor, but I still can’t help but be disappointed that IBIS is not on this list of specs.
horst
10 months ago |My greatest concern : a fully articulated display .
Anony
10 months ago |I agree. It needs a full tilt/swivel screen like the A77.
King Renas
10 months ago |Not full HD? That will not be a surprise news, but a painful news. If that would be true I will have to keep my NEX-5 together with NEX-7.
As well I think that Sony is taken so much time to launch this products has to do with the market, economically things still doesn’t look great.
I hope when they launch the camera new lenses and flash would be available.
H.R.
10 months ago |NEX 7 will be full HD. I can’t see why these point shoots and other lower end cameras have HD and the high end NEX -7 would not.
Really looking forward to this one.
lhkjacky
10 months ago |I don’t care much about the video performance in Nex7.
I just want it to have a super fast contrast auto-focus and a High ISO performance.
(Theoretically, Nex7 sensor could get more light than A77.)
Sky_walker
10 months ago |Well, A77 uses PDAF so it beats any amount of light NEX will receive as long as it doesn’t get PDAF-on-sensor. Never the less new fast processor for handling the amount of data from 24 MPx sensor should also improve the speed of CDAF hopefully.
lhkjacky
10 months ago |Hope the CDAF speed of Nex7 is as fast as the EP3.
The EP3 claim that their CDAF is faster than PDAF.
Alan
10 months ago |Genuine congratulations Sony! For the first time you have produced a market leading camera….now for the lenses…
I’m sure this will be a great success, and I will be among those getting one.
CYCLOPS-OPTIC
10 months ago |“now for the lenses”
Anybody heard yet whether it will have a 24mm equivalent pancake lens?
I’m still hoping to shove this thing in my pocket.