(SR4) Sony 500mm f/4.0 and other new A-mount lenses coming with the next A9x in Spring. POLL suggestions.
Finally the new Sony 500mm f/4.0 lens will be announced in Spring the same day of the A9x announcement. That’s what our trusted sources reported to us. And they are also “sure” that there will be other new A-mount lenses. I have no 100% reliable details about the “other” lenses but I am working on it right now so let’s hope I can post something about these lenses soon. Early this year I told you that there would be 4-5 new full frame lenses. But the Japanese Tsunami disaster changed the roadmap. Plus, Sony decided to wait until the new A9x release to announce the new lenses.
The main features of the 500mm lens are already known because Sony unveiled them a year ago:
1) The lens will have a Direct Manual Focus (DMF) control. When you press the DMF button you will get a 15x magnified view of the scene. It works only with cameras with electronic viewfinders!
2) There is also a control panel on the ens with on-of AF confirmation bleep.
3) dual focus distance limiters (standard choice between a full range and a limited range of 0.6m to infinity)
P:S.: Should we do a new poll to check what kind of new full frame lenses you want? Any suggestions?
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All new Sony cameras and lenses links:
A77 at Amazon, B&H, Adorama, J&R, eBay
A65 at Amazon, B&H, Adorama, J&R, eBay.
Sony NEX-7 Amazon, B&H, Adorama, J&R, eBay.
Sony NEX-5n Amazon, B&H, Adorama, J&R, eBay.
Zeiss 24mm f/1.8 Amazon, B&H, Adorama, J&R, eBay.
Sony 50mm f/1.8 Amazon, B&H, Adorama, J&R, eBay.
Sony 55-210mm Amazon, B&H, Adorama, J&R, eBay.
NEX-5n viewfinder Amazon, B&H, Adorama, J&R, eBay.
Reminder (SR = Sonyrumor):
SR1=probably fake rumor
SR2=rumor from unknown sources
SR3=50% chance it is correct
SR4=rumor from known sources
SR5=almost certainly correct!
Timo
2 years ago |24-120 F4
MajorTom123
2 years ago |+1
Geo
3 months ago |1!
Archer66
2 years ago |+1
compositor20
2 years ago |+1
Neo NiGHTS ®
2 years ago |+10!
Zstan
2 years ago |Zeiss + SSM
Carlos Aversa
2 years ago |+1, SSM. Both ZA and G should be fine.
Oldman
2 years ago |-
Oldman
2 years ago |+1
(the one i’ll buy for sure, tired of zoom creep in 24-105 F3,5-4,5)
Haswell
2 years ago |+++1
mansun999
2 years ago |+1
Carl
2 years ago |Not one I’m personally interested in, but it’s a baffling omission from their lineup.
PhotoNut
2 years ago |Since I got my A850, I’ve been looking for reasonable quality and affordable lenses without much luck. In particular I am irked by the unavailability of the following obvious Sony lenses:
24mm f/2.8 (Wide angle)
35mm f/2 (Portrait wide angle)
85mm f/1.8 (Modern portrait focal length)
135mm f/2.8 (Vintage head/shoulders portrait lens focal length)
Except for the 85mm f/1.8, Minolta had made version of the 35mm f/2 and the 135mm f/2.8. However the 35mm f/2 lens is very hard to find and also very expensive when found, so much so that it is selling used for more than two to three times the price of a brand new Nikon or Canon 35mm f/2. This does not make any sense.
I love to shoot portraits and I need the 35mm f/2 or similar lenses for environmental portraiture but can’t afford the very expensive Sony 35mm f/1.4 which retails for over $1,000.Ditto with the 85mm f/1.4 vs. having a 85mm f/1.8. Same thing also with the 135mm f/1.8 vs. a traditional 135mm f/2.8. Also same thing with the 24mm f/2.0 vs. 24mm f/2.8.
I don’t understand why Sony allows such affordability gaps in its product lines. Both Nikon and Canon have affordable 35mm f/2 and 85mm f/1.8 lenses for portraiture but not Sony. Since bought bought Minolta lens and SLR technology and assets they should have re-manufactured an affordable 35mm f/2 as well as the other f/2 models but they didn’t. It seems like Sony caters exclusively to either very rich amateurs/pros or the low-end of the market. So they either have very expensive Zeiss lenses or cheap plastic / SAM lenses. Nothing in-between.
eb164
2 years ago |sony has a 2.8/24 and also has 2.8/20 and 2.8/28
as for the 1.8/85 there is a somy 2.8/85 but it’s not fast enough for some people
D.Ortego
2 years ago |Very well stated ‘PhotoNut’, and the lenses you mentioned are pretty much what I would like to see from Zeiss! The only lens I’m aware of that Zeiss will release fairly soon is the ZA 50/1,4 Planar. I already have the 135/1,8 and it’s worth the money I spent, or at least that’s what I’m sticking to.
David
2 years ago |Just save up and buy decent stuff?
The 35 1.4 is magical, and worth the money imo
There’s a 24 f2 prime which is also incredible. And why have a 24 2.8 when there’s the 16-35/2.8 which is also brilliant?
There’s a Minolta 135 2.8 that you can get for less than $300. Still a great lens, small and lightweight.
As for the 85, have a look at the Sigma. I have one and it’s absolutely fantastic. I use it wide open at 1.4 ALL the time and can’t complain at all. Otherwise, that cheap 85 2.8 is actually pretty damn good from what I’ve seen, though I’ve never used one.
I do appreciate that Sony is lacking in the mid-range lenses. And I would be delighted to have a few cheaper versions of lenses. BUT the good stuff is so damned good it’s worth paying for imo. When you’ve used a Zeiss prime, you’ll be disappointed by cheaper stuff imo.. I definitely was.
Carl
2 years ago |For better or worse, Sony doesn’t manufacturer many mid-price full frame prime lenses. Buying old Minoltas is the only option.
That does mean that some of them like the 28/2, 35/2, 100/2, 135/2.8 and 200/2.8 are quite pricy, due to supply and demand.
passer-by
2 years ago |Buy Samyang 35mm F1.4. Better than Nikon and Zeiss.
GunnarK
2 years ago |Well, is that really a good choise? Isn’t there a lot of complaints over the corresponding lenses in other mounts? 5x zoom range, large aperture and FF together may not yield the best image quality.
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GunnarK
2 years ago |My comment was a reply to the wishes for a 24-120/4 lens.
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Jupiter
3 months ago |+1
Maximus
2 years ago |0,6m sounds very unrealistic for limited focus range, even for full range. This would be more than 1:1 macro magnification.
Sure it isn’t 6m?
But nice to see some movements in the lens sector
Jonathan
2 years ago |300F4 or 400F5.6 would be great!
Sahaja
2 years ago |How about right in the middle: 350mm F/4.5 ?
Alpha 580
2 years ago |Thought that too.
On the Canon it is something around 4m.
Kostya
2 years ago |Yeah, please do a poll.
Ixxy
2 years ago |24-105 F4 G-Lens (or Zeiss)
kybel
2 years ago |i think that Direct Manual Focus is not button, but ablity to focus manualy while lens is in autofocus mode
Arthur
2 years ago |+1
Jonathan Coombes
2 years ago |300mm F4 or 400mm F5.6 would be nice.
Brendon
2 years ago |For budget birders Sony has the very capable 70-400mm f5.6 SSM. Fast AF, body IS and a very usable 400mm make it a good lens. I believe this is a lens that Nikon guys especially would love and to a lesser extent even Canon guys as their 100-400mm L is a good lens but a bit dated now.
I don’t think a 400mm f5.6 prime is required though a 300mm f4 prime might find a few takers due to the speed advantage alone since weight won’t be very different compared to the 70-400mm.
David
2 years ago |Absolutely. Almost every review site agrees that the 70-400 is phenomenal, and Nikon and Canon have nothing to compete with it.
kevin
2 years ago |+1 for 300mm f/4
weather-proofed!
PhotoNut
2 years ago |Brendon, the 70-400 SSM is too slow for a lot of birding type shooting unless you’re shooting on a bright day. If you’re shooting in the evening or during Fall/Winter here then you’ll find the aperture to result in too slow shutter speeds unless you shoot at very high ISO which most of Sony’s DSLRs are not known for being very good at.
David
2 years ago |A 400 f5.6 lens wouldn’t be faster!
danny
2 years ago |I am not waiting for a lens which costs 8000€ or more. I am sure it will perform well, but too expensive for me. A 500/F5.6 or 600/F5.6 would be better, so the price can drop.
alexb
2 years ago |is more than yeay that we know this image
but we read only delays in subimission
is hard to believe in sony
physica
2 years ago |my point of view , sony lack of superzoom and PC(Tilt shift) lens……..current 300 2.8 is doing the job fine but still not enough for some bird’s hunter. good to hear for the 500 4. if sony would introduce the 600 4 or 800 5.6 later will be appreciated , but not a must..
now we have 500 4 , then sony should introduce some PC lense….. a 24mm and 90mm PC Lens is waiting so long for the sony user . especially for the photog who shoot a lot for the buildings …….
after the T-S Lense and Superzoom complete, Sony better concentrate to the E-mount lens….. There’s too few E-mount at this moment…..although NEX is a good system , but the grow of the lens are fall behind…. even samsung is more aggresive about the lens roadmap….
Arthur
2 years ago |Schneider is making 2 PC lenses for Sony A-mount. They are expensive but are the best dedicated lenses you can expect to buy in the near future.
physica
2 years ago |Yes , but only got 50 and 90 PC , is there 24 or a wider 17 PC lens exist?
Arthur
2 years ago |50 is plenty wide for landscape and buildings and 90 is long enough for mountains and portraits. 17mm would be too expensive for most users and both 17 and 24 are made by Canon and Nikon. If there is an adapter out there, you could make it work(I guess). Schneider is offering a linup of manual lenses for all major mounts. If you want a 17mm TS lens, your best option is to buy a Canikon camera. 3000$ in savings over a Schneider lens will let you buy a nice new photo kit wtih lenses and flashes…
physica
2 years ago |I’m a Canon user an currently own a 5D2 and TS-E 24II and 90. I did not own a 40, but my 50L is not wide enough for me to take the Archie. Photo of tall buildings in Hong Kong , I like to use my24II to take landscaping most also….
reinz
2 years ago |i hope the new lens is zeiss 14mm or other super wide angle for full frame, new 35mm or 50mm, and 70-200 f4 with a cheap price or maybe G lens 200mm/f.2
Marek
2 years ago |Why 70-200 f4? There is very good and affordable SONY 70-300/4-5.6.
reinz
2 years ago |because 70-200 f4 have a constant aperture while sal 70-300. and i think small range have a better result because they doesn’t use many glass.
Edgars
2 years ago |Also for 70-200mm f4 it will be with internal zoom and focus and 1.5-2 less weight and price than f2.8! 70-200mm f4 should be with faster AF and shorter than that of 70-300mm G.
Also would like 24-105mm f4 or something similar to 28-135mm f3.5-4.5 Minolta.
Sony must give us ZA 135mm SSM.
David
2 years ago |70-200 f4 would be great
But for the 135, it’s great as it. Optics are ridiculously good.. lack of SSM really doesn’t bother me, and replacing the 135 AF motor shouldn’t be a top concern right now. As a traditional portrait lens, it doesn’t matter anyway.. my subjects aren’t running like crazy
Stewe
2 years ago |50/1,2
35/1,2
85/1,2
135/1,2
70-240/4
Solo
2 years ago |Stewe knows what’s up. +1000.
Danny
2 years ago |Stewe tells it like it is!
Marek
2 years ago |Why F1.2 lenses? Because they are good for ego?
SLTPro
2 years ago |Because some of us shoot by available light and sometimes that light ain’t so bright…!!
Marek
2 years ago |I have 50/1.4 and I can count on my fingers when I used it wide open because very narrow DoF. If light is low then you can use higher ISO instead. When light is so low that even ISO 1600 and F1.4 is not enough then I would not take picture because the light would be bad for portrait anyway.
SLTPro
2 years ago |Wow thanks Marek!! In all my experience of being lucky enough to be flown all over the world shooting high end destination weddings I never realised you could just increase the ISO instead of using a wider aperture. And when the light isn’t falling on my subject quite right I could just “not take picture”….You really are a genius, some great technical portrait advice….brilliant :0
SonyA77
2 years ago |Expensive f1.2 lenses would not sell in large volumes on the Sony mount. Let’s have some sensible choices first.
Anybody
2 years ago |I have the 50 1.4 and i’m not very happy with it wide open…
Lacks contrast and focus is not always on point…
Compare the canon 50 1.4 to the canon 50 1.2,
than you will see the difference!
Sahaja
2 years ago |The useful iso range of the next full frame Sony sensor is likely to go up by 1EV or more – so you’ll gain more ability to shoot in low light there than by getting half a stop wider aperture on your lenses.
That half extra on lenses would mean heavier, more expensive lenses, with possibly worse IQ. How often do you really need to shoot at F/1.2?
David
2 years ago |lol, wow good job being being an ass SLTpro!
Sure, 1.2 lenses would be nice, but hardly a top priority. They’ll be so expensive that nobody would buy them. Plus, be realistic.. image quality wide open won’t be amazing.
I have 1.4 lenses but often stop down to get more depth of field.. for an event or wedding 1.4 leaves groups of people with some out of focus etc.. not always ideal
Marek
2 years ago |Your need is probably very special to your shooting style. I do not think that many people would buy F1.2 lenses. I hope SONY will focus their R&D on other lenses which more people will use and buy.
SonyA77
2 years ago |+1 it’s all very well typing up a list of dream lenses, but they simply would not sell well on the Sony mount.
ihateidiots
2 years ago |An extra half stop of light isn’t going to a fantastic difference.
SLTPro
2 years ago |Hi Marek,
I really agree with you in that Sony needs to prioritise but they do also need to work on some higher end lenses also. As for sales volume it doesn’t just some down to that, there’s also the prestige factor of being able to offer such quality high end lenses and it certainly will make a lot of Canikon pros start taking Sony more seriously and attract more of them to what is developing into quite a ground breaking system.
roman
2 years ago |Guys, why all the hate. Why can’t we have some FAST G Primes to compete with Canon’s 50 1.2L and 85 1.2L. I for one would be first in line to purchase FAST primes like this!!! Opens up further creative possibilities.
Jason Hicks
2 years ago |Hi SLTPro, can you please include a link to your website? I would love to see your high end destination weddings!
Carl
2 years ago |If someone is trying to minimise depth of field, then there is quite a difference between 1.2 and 1.4.
There is almost no difference between the light transmission of an f1.2 and f1.4 lens, as t stops don’t scale linearly with f stops.
Sahaja
2 years ago |Maybe he needs the extra half a stop to compensate for the light loss due to the SLT mirror.
FK
2 years ago |It’s sony not canon and by the way why should they put new releases against the Zeiss lineup (85 1,2 & 135 1.2) by the way 1.2 doesn’t mean that it has to be a good lens outside of the studio the EF 85 1.2 is the best example for this. Plus the lenses would have to be huge, heavy and probably SSM Lenses making them less reliable then the “old Fashioned” but in my opinion more desirable in Body Motor powered af System.
I honestly don’t see the point for those two lenses as for the 50 and the 35 I’m a little unhappy with the existing lineup.
I don’t think you ever had one of the 85 G lenses or a 85 or 135 Zeiss in you’re hands otherwise you would know better then asking for faster ones considering that they might loose a lot of their good characteristics just for making them slightly faster.
jacek
2 years ago |not expensive:
85/1.8
eb164
2 years ago |+1 but i don’t really expect it since there is 2.8/85
i would definitely buy one though
Geert
2 years ago |OK, it exist with SAM motor with slow focussing and basic plastic body. Good enough for its money though.
I’d love to see AND buy a CZ or Sony branded 85mm f1.4.
Seeky
2 years ago |There is already the Planar 85mm f1.4 ZA, so you can buy it if you want. But since it is expensive (€ 1200), it would be nice to have an 85/1.8-2 for around € 400
Solo
2 years ago |You are wrong Marek. Don’t make the extremely elementary mistake of saying nobody needs a feature just because YOU don’t. I guess nobody uses the Canon 50 1.2 and I must be out of my damn mind to want such a ridiculous feature when as you astutely put it I could just increase the iso or not take the picture. I assume you are not a working pro…
SonyA77
2 years ago |Nope you are wrong Solo. Canon users are not Sony users.
There are a lot of high-end and professional Canon users that buy expensive lenses, there are very few Sony users that would do the same.
Sony would be better concentrating on mid-priced constant aperture zooms and primes to build up their market share. There is ZERO point producing lenses for a pro market that does not exist.
Solo
2 years ago |A greater pro market will not exist until there is a greater pro climate.
Marek
2 years ago |Actually 50/1.2 CZ is only one from the list above which I could agree upon. If price is about 1200$ I would buy one too. I would use its sharp F1.7-2.8 range.
Sahaja
2 years ago |Right now Canon and Nikon have a much larger number of pro customers prepared to purchase such fast expensive lenses. A real dedicated low light full frame shooter probably has the D3s or D700 already – or will use the upcoming Canon 1DX.
IMO Sony should first concentrate on the best IQ. They’ll get more customers that way than by trying to have the fastest lenses.
A 50mm F/1.2 might sell enough – but I wouldn’t expect it to perform better optically than cheaper F/1.4 or F/1.8 lenses.
As for 35, 85 and 135mm lenses F/1.4 or F.1.8 is fast enough.
Solo
2 years ago |Updated versions of lenses with weather sealing
Updated Zeiss primes with SSM
Zeiss 50 1.2
Otherwise my needs are covered and I don’t have much to add.
Zstan
2 years ago |A Sony version of tokina 11-16mm f2.8!!
shamb
2 years ago |Surely you want a Sony version of the Sigma 10-20? Its the sigma wide angle lenses that keep needing to be rechipped whenever a new Sony body comes out. The Tokinas are fine as they are
But if you’re talking about an FF version of the 11-16, I’m listening!
(I own the a-mount Tokina 11-16, great lens for APS-C @11-14ish, works for full frame but as it gets a bit soft by 16, not much use for full frame).
Zstan
2 years ago |Anything but the current Sony UWA for APSC! It really needs a rebadge.
Lofote
2 years ago |Huh? There is one available. Just look at eBay. (Or do you mean a FF version of it? But are the Tokina 11-16 F2.8 lenses for the other mounts fullframe?)
hanugro
2 years ago |Totally understandable, what is the use of FF lens without FF body.
Also agree all Zeiss prime should be updated to SSM.
Also want ultra wide FF prime (around 12-14mm), f/2.8, SSM.
All new lenses will be FF right?
Sahaja
2 years ago |If the Zeiss primes get updated to SSM you can bet their prices will also go up considerably. So some might not want to wish for that too hard.
Marek
2 years ago |50-200/F2.8-3.5 G APS-C
Terryfried
2 years ago |With weatherproofing. Def But don’t think it will come as I have said new Alphas only arriving with new FF cameras so us A77 users have been forgotten already. Looks like sal1650 will be first and last serious Sony APS-C
SLTPro
2 years ago |Awesome!! Look at that Sexy beast!
Dear Sony, personally I would also like
1. Update the best lenses in the world – The Zeiss primes, give them SSM, Weather sealing and please release an A-mount AF version of the legendary Zeiss 35mm 1.4 oh and possibly a 50mm 1.2 (LOOK SONY LOOK EVERYBODY IS ASKING FOR THESE!!!)
2. A 200mm F2 (On the way?!)
3 A 400mm 2.8 for professional sports use! Why build a camera in the A9x that could dominate the sports arena without a couple more sports lenses and yes I know the 300mm 2.8 is great too.
Build it and they will come, two of my Premier League Canon shooter friends were commenting on my A55 the other day and how awesome the design would be for sports photography so get a move on with the lenses!!
Thank you!
SonyA77
2 years ago |Pro Canon users aren’t swapping to a Sony FF any time soon.
SLTPro
2 years ago |I’m speaking from experience tit. Nobody is talking about switching but one of them did just buy an A77 yesterday as he was so impressed. So stop guessing about what Canon an Nikon shooters are doing when you don’t actually know any!
fzuse
2 years ago |reissue:
28/f2
100/f2
200/f2.8
keep them small (no sam ssm)
SLTPro
2 years ago |Oh Andrea,
Poll sounds like a great idea, provided you send it to Sony of course! Thanks mate.
David
2 years ago |Everyone will request a 600 1.2 and nobody will buy it
Alexey Ozerov
2 years ago |70-200 or 300 weatherproofed.
And remake of 70-200/2.8 too – it must be all-weather for that price.
magellan
2 years ago |I fully agree!
psycho
2 years ago |I want an affordable lightweight 70-200mm F4 G (or 70-150mm or 100-200mm).
compositor20
2 years ago |the 50mm f1.2 is needed for low light (it may give you what the slt mirror takes compared with nikon)and for DOF control (when you shoot wide and normal its difficult to isolate subject and a 50mm f1.2 would be the multi purpose lens with zeiss brand
a 24-120 f4 is needed just like nikon has one and its of good quality (sony lens in this focal lenght are a joke)
the other is that 500mm f4…
probably only more 2 left
i believeit might be one of those 5:
70-200 f4
85mm f1.2
200mm f2
400mm f2.8
14mm f2.8
legno
2 years ago |Fixed, absolutely:
35mm/f2 (FF)
the only lens needed !!!!
eb164
2 years ago |not the only one needed, but a MUST have in the line-up
butch
2 years ago |while i would love that sexy 500f4
reallity is that now that i have the 16-80 and i am looking at the 70-300G for me covering my mid range is where i will be next year.
my vote would be for something 24/28-120/140 F3.5-4.5 G and that would cover my mid for now and then if i want to step up i have a main lens for a FF NAX
emopunk
2 years ago |I think that with upcoming FF priorities should be:
reworked 70-200 with weather sealing
reworked 24-70 SSM weather sealed as well
new 50mm f1.2 SSM and 35mm f1.4 SSM both weather sealed as well.
After those, they can go on with super-specialty lenses (UWAs and fast long teles).
Marek
2 years ago |+1
Dennis
2 years ago |35 f1.4 SSM.
That should be THE standard lens for APS-C, and it doesn’t exist. No, the super old 35f1.4-design is not a replacment and no, the 35f1.8SAM isn’t a replacement either. Neither is Sigmas 30f1.4, which has no HSM for Sony (WHY?!?). It’d probably become my always-on lens.
(And add to that a related e-Mount version, i.e. 30f1.8 Pancake. Sony is neglecting the standard focal lengths.)
Michel
2 years ago |24-120/4 SSM
70-210/4 SSM
85/1.8
200/2.8 SSM and small
135/2.8 SSM and small (no need for f/2, as we have Zeiss f/1.8)
Brendon
2 years ago |Unfortunately Sony decided that we don’t need f1.8 so they came out with a 85mm f2.8 lens.
Too slow for me so I had to save up for months to be able to afford a used Minolta 85mm f1.4
I don’t think the 135mm f2.8, 200mm f2.8 prime lenses sell very well in either Canon or Nikon land.
The 24-120mm f4 and 70-210mm f4 can be very useful though and I feel Sony should strongly come up with both these lenses.
Lonnie Utah
2 years ago |I agree with Dennis.
woody
2 years ago |Will like to get the A9x + 35 f/1.4 + 50 f/1.4 + 85 f/1.8.
Michel
2 years ago |A not expensive 135/2.8 would sell in my opinion, as this focal lenght is very useful for portraits on FF (I like it more than 85mm). 200/2.8… well, I just like it very much
physica
2 years ago |Just spot something special…..
3) dual focus distance limiters (standard choice between a full range and a limited range of 0.6m to infinity)
Minimum 0.6m to focus …… canon’s 500/4 need 3.7m….. NIKON’s need 4.0m…… Sony could focus up to 0.6m? What a super macro lens@@!
*Sony’s ZA135/2 need 0.72m……
physica
2 years ago |Duplicated post…plz delete…
Claus
2 years ago |An wide-angle lens for architectural photography (today I use sigma 12-24 FF lens)
- somewhere around 16mm
- shiftable (maybe also tilt, but I don’t need that)
- sharp
- straight lines
- built in tripod mount (for good weight distribution, when I use it sometimes with my lightweight Minolta film camera)
Sahaja
2 years ago |These days tilt seems more important than shift because converging lines can be fixed in PP.
Carl
2 years ago |Agreed. Shift, with no tilt, would be a pointless exercise.
Claus
2 years ago |@ Sahaja
But when you do it in post processing you will always loose Quality. I don’t want to buy an expensive sharp lens and loosing all the quality in the picture because I need to stretch all the pixels in parts of the picture.
eb164
2 years ago |affordable standard primes for FF
2/35
1.8-2/85
2.8/135
f/4 series zooms
4/70-200(210)
4/24(28)-120(135)
if sony is building a customer base with entry level cameras there must be entry level lenses to cover their needs. otherwise they will switch systems since they are not hevilly invested.
not many entry level users want a 1.8/135 but many would buy a 2.8 version for 1/3 of the price
SonyA77
2 years ago |Exactly! Too many f2 dreamers here I’m afraid!
Stewe
2 years ago |Said man, who bought a77 over $1200…Kind of sleaze IYNWIM
eb164
2 years ago |i was talking about lenses for FF. don’t think FF as a very expensive camera but as a diferent system than aps. lenses that are desighned for film/ff cameras have a range that fits that cameras. it doesn’t mean that you must have a za line-up to go to ff. also if take only 1% of your photos at 35mm why get the G?
leovideo
2 years ago |200 mm Macro, please!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Daemonius
2 years ago |Ah yes, famous Minolta 200mm F4. Nikon has one, Sony should too. Its actually very good lens (Minolta one).
Daemonius
2 years ago |24-105mm or 24-135mm, prefered fixed F-stop (F4? or let Zeiss do new 3,6 lens:D)
70-200mm F4 or F3.5 (then Sony would be finaly different option than buying Canon)
Im thinking that maybe it wouldnt be bad to add IS system to 70-200 lens. Sure SSS is nice feature, but it doesnt work so well for long lens.
Then I can think about speciality lens, like tilt-shift. One wide-angle tilt-shift should be at every system. 24 or 28mm is good, must have zero distortion and low CA (and low vignetting even shifted).
Maybe slower 35mm FF lens? F2 or F2.8? Minolta had one..
Michael
2 years ago |I would like to see a zeiss/G 24-135mm
or maybe an inexpensive teleconverter too…. why are they so expensive!?
purex
2 years ago |Friends,
Sony has promised a lot of new Inovations according to this website (do not be offended now, Andrea, for the work you do is great) will be far superior to other competitors, and what have we got? When their equipment has been tested thoroughly by independent, we have learned that Sony’s “amazing” things are not better than anyone else, rather worse. This has allowed before each new release and it sounds even now for the launch of a9x, we will see a camera that literally outperforms all competitors (just like they said on the A77, which has not yet come true) They have promised to listen to its customers on several occasions, fine, what have we got out of it? We have consistently called for better ISO performance, but in all tests so far, they have not been able to reach the standard that Nikon and Canon have??? Why do not they learn from this? Can Nikon (and Sony’s sensors, eg. D3) to master this as well should Sony do it the same?
And when it comes to telephoto lenses, it can not be so difficult to obtain because these Minolta had a whole set of good lenses.Why not “build” on them as Sony did with the 70-200 f2, 8 lens?
Then of course the question: Pricing on Sony lenses have so far been a complete joke, What is it in their lenses that are more than 3 times as expensive as the Nikon and Canon? (eg 300 f2, 8) Will Sony continue on this path? If the answer is yes, then you will soon realize that the drive to take market shares of Nikon and Canon would fail, but if you continue to sell expensive bad things and turn to the (advanced amateurs), as they say in their marketing, yes then it is OK, for those amateurs, one can apparently “fool” with future versions that never lives up to what has been promised! So once again, now a lot of people waiting for a new camera that will be truly unique and amazing as Sony promises, will be fun to see if it even lives up to half of what the new Canon 1D X can handle, I do not think so, unfortunately.
SonyA77
2 years ago |Which 24mp canikon APS-C gives better high ISO than the A77 then? Oh wait…there is no 24mp canikon…
I guess Sony lenses come at a premium due to the low volumes that get produced compared to canikon?
Sahaja
2 years ago |If that is the case, then they probably need to carefully pick and choose the lenses that they can produce and sell in sufficient quantity to market at prices close to that of their competitors.
harpo
2 years ago |Give your head a shake. BandH Camera prices are Canon 300 2.8 ($7300), Nikon 300 2.8 ($5900), Sony 300 2.8 ($6300). That statement makes the rest of your post irrelevant as you’re obviously not well informed.
David
2 years ago |erm.. so many errors, I don’t know where to start!
High ISO – Sony cameras still lead the APS-C territory. The a580 is a Sony sensor and it still the best APS-C in absolute noise performance.
The a77 is next because it has significantly more resolution. Not to mention FAR MORE dynamic range and better colours than competitors.
And saying they can’t reach the standard of Nikon and Canon.. the d700 and 5d2 are both newer than the a900. And the d3 series are a TOTALLY different price range. And the a900 is still an incredible camera. I would much rather own one than a 5d2.
Pricing seems quite consistent to me.. the zeiss stuff is right about the same as Canon L lenses. Maybe it’s different in your country, but in the UK, they’re similar. I’ve certainly never seen 3x the price for the same lens.
Not to mention that Sony and Zeiss lenses are often superior anyway. The 16-35ZA is better than the Canon L. The 24-70 is far better than the mediocre L version which has AF issues. The 70-200 rivals Canon and Nikon no problem. And the primes the story is the same.. either too close to call, or better.
Not to mention that EVERY SINGLE lens is stabilised.. that totally beats Canon or Nikon imo.. they don’t have stabilised 1.4 primes. I do.
And the fact that Sony market share continues to grow means they’re doing something right. There are far more amateurs out there than pros who want 600mm prime lenses etc. They can get their stuff first, built a userbase, then add nicer stuff (which they are doing now)
Geert
2 years ago |Well said, David!
Carl
2 years ago |I have need for a fast wide angle. 18~28mm, f1.2~1.7.
I may end up getting the 24/1.4 that Samyang is cooking up, but would rather have one designed by the ex-Minolta team.
Atlasman
2 years ago |Put image stabilization on lens so I can then use with my NEX system.
Carl
2 years ago |An easier solution would be to put image stabilisation into the NEX.
butch
2 years ago |yep its liek the fact that really its easer to make the cam 2 stops better in ISO then it is to drag a monster lens thats 2 stops brighter to the field and we hope jsut as sharpethe one that gives up those 2 stopps
Minoltian
2 years ago |issue new trio of 1.8
28/1.8 (improvement from 28/2 minolta)
85/1.8
and
100/1.8 (improvement from 100/2 minolta)
the latest one will be the most challenging to produce
JSWinNYC
2 years ago |The Zeiss line-up is missing 35mm f1.4 and 50mm f1.4 – why? These should be the first lenses announced. I suspect any update to these lenses would be Zeiss, not G, since there is already a 35mm f1.4 G and a 50mm f1.4. Perhaps a 50mm will be f1.2, but seems very unlikely (when ultra-high ISO is becoming the norm). There are many sacrifices to be made going from f1.4 to f1.2, and thought the idea is exciting, I doubt Sony would think it worthwhile (when likely not enough customers would think a $2k lens worthwhile). Yes, fast 300mm also – not for me, but important for sports, wildlife, some journalists. And yes, 24-120mm zoom as kit lens for a9x, though this would hurt sales of Zeiss 24-70 badly, and I’m not sure that Sony would want to upset Zeiss just now.
And what about the possibility of releasing SSM versions of Zeiss 85mm and 135mm? I don’t think this is likely, but unless the lens designs preclude it, this is low hanging fruit. I would buy both right away.
What seems unlikely, since it makes no sense to me:
There will not be an 85mm f1.8, since there are both a 2.8 and a 1.4 – excellent lenses. There will not be inexpensive full-frame lenses – Sony has superb inexpensive primes for APS-C, so if you want inexpensive you can go that route (though they need to complete the set with an 18mm f2.8). They will not bring back older Minolta designs, since these used glass that is no longer available. Also, I can say as one who has many of the primes, some of them are not up to modern standards (though they are beautiful lenses in their own right).
And though this is somewhat unrelated, this is wish-list thread, so.., please, Sony, give us a professional services division. I want to know that I can get the shutter replaced in my a900 in a few days, not weeks. I live in fear of camera failure – didn’t feel that way when I shot Canon. This is a big impediment to professional adoption of the brand, and again, it is not that difficult to establish.
Anybody
2 years ago |-We definitely need some Tilt Shift lenses, at least 2 or 3 of them, that is the highest priority!!!
-50mm 1.2 CZ
-an ultrawideangle prime like 12 or at leat 14mm (16-35 is just not enough sometimes)with at least 2.8
-85 1.2 would be nice as well but the 85 1.4 performs well
-weather sealed versions and ssm for 24-70, 35 1.4 and 70-200 would be nice
JB
2 years ago |CZ SSM weather sealed 50mm F1.2
CZ SSM weather sealed 35mm F1.4
CZ SSM weather sealed 100mm F2.8 Macro or 200mm F4
Carl Zeiss has an announcement on Oct 27!
http://www.facebook.com/carlzeisslenses
Admin, Any chance for Sony announcement?
Sahaja
2 years ago |Zeiss are supposed to be announcing another new ZE / ZF.2 lens. Now if all of those were also available in A-mount….
Bilby
2 years ago |+1:
CZ SSM weather sealed 100mm F2.8 Macro
CZ SSM weather sealed 12-24mm F2.8 Macro
Carl
2 years ago |The upcoming Zeiss lens is a 25/2 manual focus for Canon and Nikon. Supposedly it’s going to be quite the lens, but how it’ll compare to the ZA24 is a good question.
MF Lens
2 years ago |My list:
(i) bring back the rokkor 58mm f1.2 but in alpha mount
(ii)give us the famous zeiss 21mm 2.8 distagon AF
(iii) wide angle PC lens
(iv) 400mm f4, 500mm f4, 600mm f4, 800mm f4
(v) Some cheaper alternative to 400mm f4, 500mm f4, 600mm f4, 800mm f4
harpo
2 years ago |+1 400mm F4
Arthur
2 years ago |Fisheye 11mm
Pebble
2 years ago |A 300-800MM f5.6 just like Sigma (did).
BT
2 years ago |Change color of lens from silver to black or white.
Silver lens? No buy!
Arthur
2 years ago |Why not. Silver stands out, and it stays cool in the sun, and it is easy to clean.
BT
2 years ago |Because “standing out” is often prohibitive in serious photography. You must not drive the attention to yourself, if you want to photograph wildlife or people candids. “Standing out” is for fan-boys, not for photographers.
White stays cools just as well as silver, and temperature isn’t much of a problem with most lenses, anyway. Have a look at, for example, Nikon’s professional tele-photo lenses: Black.
Black is much easier to clean than silver.
Panda
2 years ago |Now that SLT cameras have a very good AF, I really would like to see more SSM telephoto lenses.
Moreover, telephoto lenses can be used with FF and APS-C (crop factor and size/weight make standard and UWA FF lenses less suitable for APS-C cameras).
I would be really happy if Sony could bring back some Minolta Telephoto lenses, with the addition of SSM. For example :
70-200mm F/4 SSM
200 mm F/2.8 SSM (+TC 1.4x =280mm F/4)
300mm F/4 SSM
Walt
2 years ago |Too bad Sony does not support APS cameras with new lenses only considers A mount for FF. The 500 should have been out with the a700. Ever since it’s been late/vaporware.
Dealaddict
2 years ago |My wishes are:
Upgrade cz 24-70 with weather seal
Upgrade cz 85 with ssm and weather seal
Upgrade 70-200 optics. This lens optic is not as good as canon and nikon, and it doesn’t have IS and not weather seal, so it should be cheaper to make, but it is charging a ridiculous price IMO
I know my wishes very likely not happen because I think Sony will release new lens rather improve current lens.
David
2 years ago |Weather sealing would be nice, but I think it’s over-rated unless it’s PROPER rated weather proofing. It’s certainly not worth re-designing excellent lenses.
The lenses are already weather resistant. You can use an a700, 850 or 900 in the rain no problem. I’ve been in several downpours (the UK!) with a850 and zeiss lenses and never a single issue.
I’ve also taken an a580 inside a fountain in Dubai, dropped it into sand several times by accident, rammed around in the back of a jeep and hit the door hard enough to take a piece of paint out the door.. camera is 100% fine. And the a580 isn’t even anywhere near as solid as a 700, 77, 65 or 850/900.
Plus, how many of us *NEED* weather sealing? Getting caught in a shower doesn’t count. If you’re a national geographic shooter, or camping out in the wet jungle for a week maybe you have a point.
Carl
2 years ago |Man, I feel sorry for your gear!
My A900 has been rained on before, though. At the time I was more worried about potential fungal outbreaks in my lens than about the camera conking out.
David
2 years ago |Nah – I treat it well, but it’s good quality stuff so it can handle normal use.
I wouldn’t leave it out overnight in the rain, but getting caught in a shower doesn’t bother me.
You should feel sorry for THIS guy’s gear (scroll 2/3 down)
http://www.swiatobrazu.pl/sony-dslr-a900-na-rajdzie-dakar-14518.html,1
E
2 years ago |400/4 APS-C
70-200 2.5 APS-C
200/? Macro APS-C ?
200-500/4 APS-C
10-20+/4 APS-C
ACz
2 years ago |100 f2
28-135 f4
70-210 f4
35 f2
I love my old minolta lenses, but 20+ years takes it toll
Derkaczyk Maecin
2 years ago |Bardzo by chciał zobaczyć w przyszłości takie obiektywy jak :
70-200mm F4 w cenie 550euro Sony może być tańsze od Canona bo nie ma stabilizacji
70-300 mm f4 SSM w cenie 700 euro
400mm F5,6 SSM w cenie 1200 euro
300 mm F4 SSM w cenie 4600 euro
I do tego jakiś fajny obiektyw do macro podobny do Sigmy 150mm F2,8 USM
I dobry obiektyw szerokokątny 10-30mm 3,5-4,5 G SSM ,
Takie są moje marzenia co do obiektywów w systemie Alpha
Derkaczyk Maecin
2 years ago |przy obiektywie 300mm F4 SSM miała być cena 1150 euro
FK
2 years ago |Why would they put out a concurrence product to their 300 F2.8, if you can’t pay for it you simply don’t professionally need it. If you need a 300 F4 Sony offers a 70-200 and a 1.4TC which will give you something pretty close to that with a reasonable price tag.
Mari
2 years ago |Now two first lenses I would buy for full frame would be:
SAL-2470Z 24-70 F2.8 Zeiss
SAL-70400G 70-400 F4-5.6 G Series
2470Z is great already, but weather sealing as someone previously noticed would be a nice touch. Also if any minor tweaks for new cameras are possible then just go for it.
70400G is also top notch as a telezoom, but maybe some new supertele Zeiss zoom? Weather sealed, 70-500 or 70-400 (keep wide end at 70-80 to use with 2470Z as basic kit) with improved aperture (I’m not talking here about constant F2.8 here, that would be probably impossible at pricing below).
Taking into consideration that 70400G is 1400 Euro, 70200G (F2.8) is 1875 (shop prices converted to Euro). This 70500Z could be priced at 2000-2500 Euro.
I know that 2770Z+70400G would not be considered by many as “travel” kit, because they are heavy. Although I think, that is the top quality you can get in wide range using least lenses and carrying least kilograms, so perfect for me.
Mark
2 years ago |Full-frame? A modern 35 f/2, and a modern equivalent to the Contax 35-70 f/3.6 zoom. Something not too wide, not too long, and not too heavy, but with world-class optics. I’d love a 28-85 f/4 that’s razor-sharp all the way to the corners. Oh, and with two separate controls: one ring for zooming, one ring for focusing.
But I acknowledge that I’m probably dreaming there.
Carl
2 years ago |It’s not quite a Contax, but the Minolta 35-70/4 is plenty sharp for a lens that can be had for less than $50.
FK
2 years ago |In my opinion the most urgent Lens from a professional viewpoint is a Sony G or Zeiss 50 f1.4 or f1.2 most favorable without SSM (although that it is unlikely when branded Sony). The reason I’m asking for that is that I own a Minolta 50 1.4RS (Optically similar to the Sony 50 1.4) performing quite good on ambient Light but quite bad in studio environments. I compared it to my Minolta 85 G RS and for both Studio and Available Light applications the 50 couldn’t reach anywhere close to the 85 G-Lens. In fact the 50 performed so badly that I was forced to buy a Sony 50 2.8 Macro only for my studio work. The 50 Macro actually performed a lot better (and even resolved more details then the 85) but has as well has shown some of the issues I had with my 50. Don’t get me wrong the 50 1.4 is a nice lens for nonprofessional use with an very reasonable price, but for professional applications it was anything but satisfying to work with. (And for the price of both of that lenses I could probably nearly pay for that hypothetical new lens)
The other thing I see with Sony is that there are no good options at 28 and 35 mm of Focallenght. I do know that Sony is still selling the 35 1.4, but in relation to It’s Price the performance Isn’t that good (not talking of it being the ugliest G-Lens ever), it could be sharper it could deliver more resolution but more important it could as well be an improved version of the 35 2.0 Minolta lens making it more compact, lighter, cheaper and probably sharper, too. As for the 28 this would be the perfect option the reuse the 28 f2.0 design of Minolta and branding it Sony G to put out a lens with the advantages talked of above (without high costs of development) and selling it at a reasonable price under 1000$
marek
2 years ago |You are right that 50/1.4 is not pefect in studio but using dxo raw convertor it is posible to fix its croma, distorsion and other issues. It helps a lot. But CZ version with edge to edge sharpnes whould be welcome. But i would not pay more then 1000$ for it.
FK
2 years ago |At anything below F5.6 it was Fixable but if I went up to F8 – F11 it got totally unusable and indeed not only showing croma but also severe unsharpness in the center, it was a pain in the ass to work with. I had to tune the whole light setup to make it somehow work with the lens and I had to recreate colors by hand.
I only did this for this single shooting, and it caused hours of restoring in Photoshop. Afterwards getting the Macro was a nobrainer, no matter at which price point as I really needed it for the next shooting which was the following day and which made me travel 150km the morning of the shooting while probably causing me to loose 200-300€ in value till now. (As I don’t want to stay with neither the 1.4 nor the 2.8 Macro)
Having to set up a light in a way to whit the only priority to make it work with a specific lens has never happened to me and will hopefully not happen to me again. The thing that no one can deny is that such behavior of a lens is anything but suitable for professional use and having this issues in such an important focal range is a tough problem if you try to attract professionals to a system.
Carl
2 years ago |Maybe there’s an issue with your sample? For all it’s failings wide open, I certainly don’t find my copy to exhibit “severe unsharpness” at f8~11.
Are you using it on full frame? Shooting at f11 on APS will always give you some diffraction issues in the centre.
FK
2 years ago |ASP-C, however I don’t see where this is coming from i know about the theory of diffraction but i have a huge blue spot in the middle of the image along with some unsharpness, and the macro was showing the same but in a heavily reduced form. The thing that bothers me is that we have tried out the same with canons and not one of them has shown the symptoms. The 50′s are the only lenses showing these symptoms neither my 20 nor 28 nor 85 did this to me. Plus we testes sevral lenses for the canons the 50 EF 1.4, EF 1.8 and a Sigma 2.8 Macro and none of them has shown thes problems as for my 50′s both did this to me (although it wasent close as bad on the macro and i’ve tried it out with an A700 and A580 it happend with both of them so its not the body. As for FF it would still mean that you would see it but that it would just be less noticeable.
Carl
2 years ago |Could you throw up an image showing the effect on an image hosting website? It sounds like something very wrong is going on there.
HMD
2 years ago |50mm f1.2 full frame high quality lens would be great.
Brian Toward
2 years ago |The lens range could be increased at a stroke by making the existing manual focus Zeiss range available in a Sony mount. I have the 100mm f2.0 Makro lens converted with a Leitax bayonet to fit my A900 and that is very nice indeed.
The flowering of Samyang has added another factor to the equation. Their 35mm f1.4 is truly excellent and they have promised tilt and shift lenses too. If you don’t mind manual focus and manual diaphragm they could fill some useful gaps that Sony may take an age to fill themselves.
MF
2 years ago |i would love to see a 50mm f1.2… that would be awesome.
Defo a remodeled 24-70 and 70-200 f2.8
but a question about the A9x… what is Sony’s timeframe of “Spring”?
David
2 years ago |My lineup would be:
A new 50mm. At least as good as the Sigma version. A ZA or G lens 1.4 would be fantastic. 1.2 is overkill, but would be welcomed.
70-200/f4 would be good. With a constant barrel size throughout the zoom, internal focusing etc. I love the 70-300G and 70-400G already, but the 70-300 gets to f5.6 just too quickly imo.
35/f2 also seems to be popular, and it makes sense to have a more affordable version compared to the 1.4. It’s a very versatile and useful focal length, so demand would be high.
And PLEASE just give everything apart from the cheap lenses SSM. I’m not an expert in design but I can’t see why it would be omitted from new lenses. It’s fantastic, and just SOOOO quick and accurate every single time.
Froo
2 years ago |SSM is only suitable for lenses focusing with light weight elements and/or groups. For front focusers, focusing by extension, and even more complex focusing (like 135ZA) SSM is a bad idea.
FK
2 years ago |SSM is just one more invention that allows lenses to brake faster, so that you have to buy new ones or pay for very high fees in order to get your lenses fixed. My 70-200 has SSM all my other lenses don’t have it and to be honest i don’t miss it at all. In the 70-200 it works just fine but I don’t see a need for it. (The main benefit is that the focusing makes very little noise, but to be honest I don’t care about that anyway.)
David
2 years ago |Makes sense, thanks!
And you’re right about the silent focus. Especially with the huge noise that the mirror and shutter makes on the a900. Ker-dunk!
Clyde
2 years ago |The Zeiss 21mm Distagon. The Contax/Leitaxed version is now too expensive… and CaNikon users get theirs with ZF/ZE… I think it’s ridiculous there is no Sony Alpha Zeiss 21mm.
The Zeiss 35mm Shift lens… Make IT! And if not that one, then re-release the Minolta MC 35mm Shift with Vario Curvature. I don’t care which one just give us a shift please.
Zeiss 200mm f2 for Contax… Make it ZA with SSM please.
Update current 85mm and 135mm SSM.
Give us a smaller f2.8 135mm… reissue the Maxxum.
Why isn’t the entire ZF/ZE lineup available for Sony Alpha?
__________
And don’t forget to make them all PANCAKES!!!
klw10
2 years ago |I think a poll would be in order. I would like to see full frame lenses like:
200mm f2.8 SSM G or Zeiss
200mm f4 SSM Macro G or Zeiss
50mm f1.4 G or Zeiss
70-300mm f4 SSM G or Zeiss
300mm f4 SSM G or Zeiss
Davidlam
2 years ago |From Zeiss:
Please give us a set of .CP2 lenses (14 aperture blades), 18,21,25,35,50,85,100 and Makros.
http://www.zeiss.com/compactprime
G lenses:
200/2.8
200/4 Macro
100/2
28-135/4
85/2.8 T&S
3x-1x
35/2.8 T&S
28/2.8 shift
24/2.8 VFC
Solo
2 years ago |I too would like to see the Zeiss ZE/ZF lineup on alpha mount. Many of my dream lenses are in that line-up.
Seeky
2 years ago |I agree that there should be more Zeiss lenses, including the manual focus lenses. But seen the relationship between Sony and Zeiss, it would be nice to expand the range of high-end AF ZA lenses with e.g.:
50/1.4 SSM Planar
35/1.4 or 2 SSM Distagon
100/2 Makro-Planar
and a wider than 24 (18/20mm) lens (C Biogon or Distagon)
As you all know, the Zeiss lenses are expensive and they should be. But for the price, their built must be perfect and preferably all metal. SSM is nice, but not necessary if it increases price too much, since it doesn’t add quality to the lens, only convenience, and maybe easier and earlier failure.
This leaves room for Sony to produce excellent wheaterproof and silent focusing (SSM) G lenses. However, it is of greatest importance that Sony introduces mid-priced SSM lenses for all focal lengths comparable to offerings of Canon and Nikon, to hold new Sony customers, as it is doing with the current DT lens line up for APS-C users. I’ll give a list of middle- and high-end lenses which are essential for different camera systems according user needs:
Prime fixed focal length:
14/2.8
20/2
24/1.4 G
24/1.8 or 2 (more affordable version, also relevant for APS-C!)
NEW 35/1.4 G
35/2.0
50/1.4
50/1.7 G
50/1.8 (I’m stunned this lens isn’t there yet!!!)
85/1.8-2
See other posts for longer lenses
Zooms:
14-24/2.8 and/or f4 (to complement 24-100+)
16-35/4
24-120/2.8-4 and/or f4
28-300/3.5-5.6
28-105/3.5-4.5 and/or f4
70-200/4
update 70-200/2.8 and 70-300/400 (wheatersealing)
Macro:
200mm/4 SSM
existing lenses: maybe new IF designs? (allows wheatersealing and SSM)
Of course I never will need and use all those lenses; I just want to use a set of primes (24,35,50), some zooms (17-35,24-100+ or 28-300) and a macro (100). But my needs aren’t other peoples needs, so lets hope that Sony does something with these suggestions!
Jojo
2 years ago |Where to start?
Sony have a lot of lenses to debut in a short time if they are seriously going to compete in pro FF area.
Clyde
2 years ago |I’m sure we’ll all complain about the prices. Can’t wait for my Maxxum’s to rise in value yet again.
Ian
2 years ago |20mm tilt shift