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Well, the 50mm 1.4 CZ for Nikon and Canon mount may be cheaper, but it is optically … ehm, not that good. The new 55mm f/1.4 CZ will cost almost 3000, so 1600 for the Sony one with AF is a fair compromise if it’s optically good enough.

A prime lens does NOT have to be a much simpler design than a zoom lens – not at f/1.4 and not if you want almost perfect optical performance.

How solid of a rumor is that 50′s release price?

50mm f1.4 at that price simply won’t fly not with Canon’s 50mm f1.2 L lens at that price point.
Another kit lens? Well wow yawn..
Where is the 85mm f1.8, the 35mm f2 FF lens, the 28mm f2.8, the 24-something non CZ pricey zoom, the 70-210mm f4 new beercan. Nowhere to be seen and this is evidently a camera company?

50/1.4 priced like Canon’s 50/1.2-L … Hmm. This new ZA won’t go to 1.2, so it had better have something else to make it worth the premium price. And no, the blue “Zeiss” label will NOT, in itself, be worth it. I’d better be able to see superior IQ in pictures the lens takes; it needs to beat ALL the other 50/1.4′s out there… and probably, beat them by a substantive margin (I imagine that Sigma’s already planning to raise the price of their 50/1.4HSM… ) .

Of course, even if I *CAN* see the superior IQ, I probably *STILL* won’t buy the ZA50… 50mm isn’t a useful-enough focal length (for me, and my shooting), and f/1.4 doesn’t beat my other glass for low-light, so… this lens doesn’t look like it’s going to have NEARLY $1600 worth of appeal for me. Others MMobviouslyV.

Drop SLT and there’s your extra low ISO performance that Nikon seems to have. Just compare A57 vs NEX-5N, or A77 vs NEX-7

Then I wonder why Leica didn’t go bankrupt way earlier.

Wow then the 50mm is mine…

Now 50mm for 2k… Now I am expecting the performance on the same caliber of Leica without the brand.

I will look to see how well the new lenses image then I’ll make up my mind to buy or not.
As camera sensors get better and have greater MP’s quality optics become more important.

Ill buy it. Your in now if ya need it you will buy it. But I bet its under 1500
Any takers.

Don’t bother with the price! Depending on the performance it may be a no brainer or overpriced.

What a boring announcement!! A list of mild upgrades and copies of what they already have. What about some products that would fill real gaps in the lineup?

(*) Wide-angle primes for E-mount/A-mount APS-C: why is there no 16 mm or 20 mm f/2 lens? Not a pancake, but a good performing lens. It should be easier to make and cheaper than full frame lenses at these focal lengths.

(*) 35 mm for A-mount fullframe: there is only one choice from Sony now which does not live up to its price.

from my A330 its a huge difference been shooting RAW+jepg for the last 2 years can i have the A77 do RAW+ jsut fine jepg so i have fast easy shots to post but am saving the raws for any tricky editing

That could be a possibility…
For now what I see in LR4 is that noise reduction applied to my brother’s pictures seems to mess up jpeg’s much less than NR applied to A55 pics. I had to use more color noise suppression on my A55, because it had distinctively more pronounced chroma noise.

If you don’t want 24mpix then reduce the size of them to 16mpix. There is very little difference between images from the A55 and images of the same size from the A77.

According to three online review websites including DXOmark, Nikon’s D5200 sensor soundly beats all Sony cropped bodies in overall IQ. The same for D3200 D600 and especially D800. I care nothing for video and am all about image quality and currently Nikon is dominating in that regard. I prefer Sony’s body design especially with EVF and hope Sony will surpass Nikon with the next line of bodies and please no more SLT I understand the benefit but it along with AAfilter make fine details all smudgy like a point and shoot.

An “almost” 21mp sensor. And here I was hoping for a next generation 16mp. I hope it will not be another round of A65/A77 noisy mess. They can’t possibly make a camera that has worse ISO performance than a previous generation, can they?

Lenses are not just about optics these days. They contain electronics such as auto focus motors and communicate with the camera body and flash. The new Sigmas have that “thingy” that you attach to lens to allow for firmware updates. Old film cameras and lenses still take great photographs, but photographers today want their cameras and lenses to do everything for them, so they are more complex which means more money. In the old film days, you never heard of lenses and cameras that were weather sealed. Now everyone wants equipment that they can use to take photographs in a tornado. Again, more money.

There’s time for shooting, there’s time for reading. These two don’t interfere with each other.

They should release one that competes with D600. I have an extremely hard time justifying the 6-700 extra between the D600 and the A99…

Which at the day of release run in germany for 600 Euro? Yea, sure, I can. This will only show how ridiculous Sony Zeiss price is. Nearly 3 times as high.

If we would spend time outdoor and taking picture as much as we are here reading about rumors and whining all the time….we would have lots of nice pictures hahaha

More and more Sony bodies – does the NEX line have more bodies than lenses now? Not counting ‘adapted’ lenses of course.
Also the 70-400 price is highway robbery – no reason that lens should cost that much – it doesn’t even have IS built-in! Yes I realize Alpha bodies have a mediocre form of IS built in, but it’s far less effective than in-lens IS. I had a Sigma OS 70-200 that was far better disabling the in-body IS and using the lens IS. Just sayin’. Sony gets you coming and going.

I understand that this is all just rumor till Sony makes official announcements. But the main thrust of this year according to Sony (or is it SonyAlphaRumors) is to update the product from the bottom up……

So, it is a little strange that Sony delays the bottom 3x series and updates only the 5x series.

Who knows, maybe Sony will announce a new 7x, 8x, or 9x body or even a 9xx

That 70-400G is totally outpriced. Even Canon L glass is cheaper and that is optically stabilised. Unless that lens delivers a never seen IQ, its a no go for me.

I hope so I really would like a nice flash for my nex-6. Sony should make a compact flash with quick shift bounce or whatever they call it. I really loved that feature with my 58am.

Why do people use Toyota as a reference?

“NEX-3N, 16Megapixel sensor (same as F3) ”

Means, no PDAF? Yet shipped with the new 16-50/3.5-5.6 powerzoom? Strange.

Sony will need a 400mm prime to fix the bokeh. Long zooms always have terrible bokeh.

Andreaa pls do you know something about the nex 7x when is it coming before sommer or after??

You are right. I was reading the lens marking and didn’t see it clearly. Never answer questions when you’re still sleepy.

Which Nikon model will have the new 20 megapixel sensor before Sony releases it?

Not sure how well it is going to sell at the listed price. The most expensive 50mm f/1.4 at B&H right now is the Zeiss Planar T* Manual focus for Canon and Nikon at $725. The new lens has auto focus, weather sealing, and I would expect be produced in smaller quantities, which increases the price a bit. But double the price does seem extreme. For more budget sensitive, the Sigma and Sony lenses are available for $450 and $423. Of course if the new lens can out resolve a 54 MP FF sensor, it could be worth every penny to those who may be shooting such cameras in a few years.

I just got my Sigma 50mm f/1.4 for ~$445 from B&H and it’s a very good piece of glass. Calculation is simple: Sigma 50mm + Sigma 35mm = 445+900=$1.335 which is still 200usd cheaper than Carl Zeiss 50mm f1.4. I’d buy 2 UV filters with this additional bucks

Hi, Andrea
Is the new A58 sensor same as the next NEX 5 series?
Thanks

i’m talking about release price
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/11/07/Sigma-35mm-f1-4-DG-HSM-899-dollars-street-price

Street price is even lower i think you can find it for 750- 800$ in US but i’m not sure.

I “was” looking forward to upgrading my 70-400, but it looks like it’ll cost me close to a grand after I sell my current one. I’m suspicious of the claim made here that the new lens will have the same optic profile, and that it will now be slower (that could have just been a typo).

The 70-400 has terrible bokeh and for that reason alone I would want to upgrade to an improved version. Weather sealing would also be hugely important in a lens primarily intended for outdoor wildlife or sports photography. I don’t care about the silver color, they can change it or keep it, doesn’t matter to me. Just fix my bokeh and seal the lens and I’ll be putting my current one on ebay and snatching up a new one.

Andrea – Any Info? on Processor Board or New PDAF more points

New BIONZ V2 processor board with

Better JPEG engine

and

Bigger on board Buffer

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Actually, there is a substantial difference between the Sony Zeiss lenses and their regular Sony counterparts, both in terms of materials, design and of course results. It’s like the other poster put it, it’s the difference between a Toyota Scion and a Lexus. Same manufacturer, they’ll both get good mileage, get you to the supermarket, but one does it in style and comfort, maybe with more safety and all the latest technology. It’s kind of like that.

Ouch!!
“A38 dropped!!”
Looks like no Sony For Me.

You talk about release or market price? Cause we’re talking here about release prices.

F or EOS mount Zeiss 35 f/1.4
That’s the lens that’s comparable in price with A-mount Zeiss 50 f/1.4

Sheesh and I thought Nikon and Canon lenses were expensive. My sympathies to Sony shooters.

Zeiss has done its marketing well. I’ve used numerous Zeiss lenses (A mount 24-70, 135 + manual glass for Nikon) and I can honestly say you’re mostly paying for a name and a little blue “Zeiss” tag at the side.

if I’d be poor I wouldn’t look at the glass that’s 1000$ for my hobby

which lens are you talking about???

No. It only means that it got the same or very similar vignetting and distortion pattern as the old lens.

But… let’s wait and see

m4/3 haven’t caught up. Olympus just inflate their ISO numbers. The omd-em5 sensor is a SONY sensor, same generation as the 16Mp APS-C.

If after comparing Zeiss to random 3rd party lens it’s just a “marketing gimmick” for you, then we have nothing to discuss here.

how about “if it’s different optical formula” ?

How about “Only modern 50 f/1.2 lens available” part?

Current 16mpx is a very good sensor. Even with progess in engineering sensor, i doubdt that adding 4mpx make the sensor really better.

Point is the amount of labor in both lenses is about the same to build one, not much difference in parts either. Bottom line is marketing hype. With the advent of photoshop and software to correct for distortion these hyper pricey lenses are a joke.

The 50 mm is a Zeiss, it’s the same difference between mass market car and a Rolls

Might be that they changed an optical formula to make it sharper wide open? Hence f/4.5 ?

Current Canon 50 f/1.4: 400$. Current Canon 35 f/1.4: 1200$.
You see – prices of 50s and 35s don’t have anything to deal with themselves.

People complained that there are too many bodies in the SLT range. Sony may be simplifying a bit. And people still complain. Can we wait for the actual products and prices to come out and then complain?

The Sigma Art 35mm f1.4 is listed at $1400 U.S. That’s a third party lens. People wanted fast high quality primes. They’re getting it. Not selling for what you think they should be? Well, the pros who need them will buy them. For the rest of us, the current Sony and Minolta lenses still work quite well.

Only it’s not fully metal, silvery-ring lens alike 35 f/1.4 Zeiss, which goes for the same price. So I hardly call it justified. Especially when 35 f/1.4 is impact resistant and got by far more complicated optical design.

F/1.2 is an unique lens unavailable in other systems. Hence the uber-high prize. Zeiss is nothing alike!

I don’t know to be honest. But I’m quite sure it won’t be pancake.

What might be changed or improved in 18-55? It’s a kit lens, so I have bit of a trouble trying to figure out what they can improve without raising a price by a significant margin. New optical design might be required for high-resolution sensors, but other then that? No idea really. I’d love to see weather sealing or SAM II (like in 18-135 – silent), or best: both!

Great news! Really good to see Sony’s still investing in the a-mount. Price is on the steep end, but at the end of the day it’s a Zeiss…

so we gonna see this next gen 20mp sensor in a NEX this year:) maybe nex 7X? or even NEX 5X/6X.. cant wait for the DXO results of this sensor!

…and then the A59 will be announced and you’ll wait for that.

Or do not upgrade A700. It’s still the best. For night photography SLTs are crappy like NEXes, they got hot and noisy very soon. I’ve even sold A580 as it wasn’t that good as A700 for longer exposures and got horrible blinks from city lights that A700 never does.

Well, this is a nice surprise!

I normally find out about Sonys new sensor technology from Nikons product announcements…

Canon EF 50/1.2 is $1,619.00 at B&H and it’s a less complicated lens albeit a half stop faster.

How can the 70-400 have the same optical formula as the old lens, when it has f4.5 instead of f4? … Seems strange to make the lens slower and charge that huge ammount… :S

Andrea, any details about the new 18-55? better af ? build construction?

SAR have said that next years FF isn’t SLT, Sony are concentrating on a NEX FF.

Cool rumors! I *suspect* the A58 is replacing both the A57 and A65 (as there’s no A66 rumors flying around). If so, the A58 will probably get the good EVF from the A65/A77 – I really can’t see Sony continuing to sell ‘old’ EVF tech in the mid-range cameras for another 18 months. And if if if so, it could be the reasonably-priced upgrade from my A700 I have been waiting for. Yey!

1600 $ for a 50 , crazy , I’ll just buy the sigma 35mm 1.4 and call it a day…

Andrea, how about OVF rumors? Any chance for A580 mark II?

Early it was mentioned, in white. Are you sure?

Is the 70-400mm freaking gold plated to justify the price tag???

it comes in black with weather sealing.

Water resistance? Better AF? There is more than just optical configuration to a lens that can be improved.

1700 euros for a 50mm? lol

Let’s see if A58 will have an battery grip option…

And come to think of it.. If the 70-400 G II is going at this price.. i cant imagine how much the 70-200 G II would gonna cost..

hmm..

Price for 50mm sounds legit tho alittle high.. maybe 1500 MAX i would say..
However price for new 70-400..thats very high. oh dear..

No FF this year. Then new SLT FF in 2014? Sounds OK to me..no need so many anyway..A99 is fine.

Admin make some Voting polls, ESP on that 70 400

Andrea, do you have any informations about the EVF? Will it be like the A65 with 2,36 Mio Pixel?

So, i’m really wondering about kit II, just because i saw at sonystore they put about half-a-year ago a badge “NEW” to the kit, and the only diference i saw – just a bit another plastic finish on it.

18-55 II – PANCAKE?

Whats up with those ridiculous prices manufactures are asking these days for lensens $1600 for a 50mm and $2400 for a 70-400 replacement… Sorry but this is getting way out of proportions.

So what is the point of getting a 70-400 II if it’s the same optics as the original but more expensive?

Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 for 1600-1700 dollars/euro
70-400G F4.5-5.6 II 2400-2500 dollars/euro

Ouch. That hurts…