(SR5) First E-mount Full Frame cameras are High End camcorders. NEX-7 alike cameras in 2013.
Short update about the new Sony E-mount Full Frame story. Sony is about to launch the first E-mount Full Frame cameras. Those are actually (expensive) camcorders. More compact NEX-7 alike cameras will arrive in 2013. I will have more info to post soon. Meantime a link to a must read article: Photoclubalpha.com.
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Wong
9 months ago |Well, at least I’m going to be “less” broke this year.
Sky_walker
9 months ago |It’s SR5, not FT5
Wrong website! (again, lol 
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hehehehehe
admin
9 months ago |Damn, was watching the latest Canonwatch and 43rumors rumors too…lol
Sky_walker
9 months ago |Jon
9 months ago |AG, I think it’s a rating to indicate the probability of the rumor being true. An SR5 means that it’s probably 80-100% true.
Douglas Grillo
9 months ago |@Admin
When we are talking about high end camcorder… Is something big as the FS100 or something bigger as the Sony F3 or the CineAlta line?
Sony has keep you very busy these days, right?
vinh
9 months ago |oh, so It is not a leica alike…… so disappointing. now I dont understand why they make it with e-mount not a-mount for the ff camcorder….
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Thanks admin for the rumors, now I just buy nex-6 or a99
admin
9 months ago |Leica alike stuff will arrive in 2013.
Steve
9 months ago |2013…………..
Sounds like everything I’m looking for is now rumored for 2013
so, is that four months from now or 15 months from now?
FF NEX in 2013, 36MP SLT in 2013, 70-200/f2.8 2013, 70-400 in 2013
Sounds like 2013 is going to be as expensive as 2009 was when I purchased 2 a850′s and added 24-70/f2.8 and a 16-35/f2.8 to my collection of A-Mounts.
I hope you are correct and this stuff really ships by the end of 2013
Jon
9 months ago |You cannot put an emount adapter on the a-mount! Hardly any adapters on the a-mount. Unless you are buying a $7000 video camera and balk at 300 for a adapter that will allow u to use every possible lenses
vinh
9 months ago |if true, it is not a camera only, it is a revolution in photography
Sky_walker
9 months ago |Revolution? It’s still just an ILC with full frame sensor. Leica does that already releasing new generation every now and then. Hardly a revolution. More like a price breakthrough – as finally it’ll be affordable for generic public (as far as full frame can be affordable anyway).
SLT was a revolution for DSLRs. App support in ILC will be a revolution for mirrorless, but this? Just an evolution and a beginning of harsh price battle between Sony and Nikon.
vinh
9 months ago |Yup, It’s a price and size revolution, It’s revolution if sony give us a nex 7 alike ff camera with 1/3 price of M9. M9 is an exception because there price. look at the the size of canon and nikon FF camera, wow, they are huge….
If that “nex 9″ is around $2000, it ll be a revolution for sure
Sky_walker
9 months ago |Meanwhile Nikon already will have Full Frame D600 with full ergonomics for $1500 since over half a year. That will be a price revolution. Not NEX-FF.
Sony will make a breakthrough on a mirrorless market, a really huge thing – no doubt about it, but I wouldn’t praise it for more than it’s worth.
Sahaja
9 months ago |But with a Leica you can only focus cammed Leica mount lenses (M-mount or screw mount with an adapter). Without live view they are currently pretty useless for adapting other lenses. NEX cameras have live view, focus peaking, and magnification.
Maybe the Leica M10 will have live view and a detachable EVF – then it will be much more versatile than the M9.
vinh
9 months ago |Edgars
9 months ago |Except twice as much price for body and triple price for lens, what other advantage is for FF?
Denis
9 months ago |@Edgars, it’s obviously IQ
matgay
9 months ago |Hi edgars fellow troll!
Steve-S
9 months ago |@vinh:
> I dont understand why they make it with
> e-mount not a-mount for the ff camcorder…
E-mount is where Sony is concentrating their video-centric cameras.
Stepless aperture, quiet motors, etc… there’s so many legacy A-mount lenses that DON’T meet the needs of video (A-mount has almost no advantage over E-mount on this front); and when you want to talk about lots of “legacy” and adapted lenses, NEX is where it’s at. Lots of cine lenses (and non-cine but “interesting” to cinematographers) out there that can be adapted to NEX but can’t be adapted to Alpha.
- Steve S.
vinh
9 months ago |Thanks Steve
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Andreas
9 months ago |How expensive exactly ? FS100 expensive or F65 expensive? Could you be a little bit more precise?
admin
9 months ago |I have no precise details yet…
woyou
9 months ago |full frame is not super 35 right? photography full frame not video full frame?
admin
9 months ago |Full Frame is Full Frame
Kirk fuk
9 months ago |But canon full frame is a little less
Sky_walker
9 months ago |Canon APS-C is little less then APS-C. Full frame is still full frame. APS-H isn’t full frame.
roger48
9 months ago |Full frame is any format that uses all of its’ sensor to record, and that applies to any format you can name. Yes, I know the context of FF on this and other sites, just havin’ a bit of fun. And no, I am not a troll.
Gunnar
9 months ago |Canon is always a little less
Matt
9 months ago |Yes but 35mm film is not the same frame size as a s35 frame in motion picture film, so ‘Full Frame’ for video and stills could be quite different things.
ss
9 months ago |Nope full frame for video and stills are two different things.
Full frame for videos,also called as super 35 has dimensions @25 x 19 mm.This is very close to APS-C from still photography.
Full frame for stills are of 36 x 24 mm .
That is why the sensor of RED and other video cameras are as big as APS-C !!!!
admin
9 months ago |Than I will say it more clearly. Full Frame in 35mm photographic terms
Sahaja
9 months ago |In cinematography “full frame” usually means 35mm Academy format which is only about 22mm by 16mm.
see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/35_mm_film#Common_formats
http://www.cinematographers.nl/FORMATS1.html
Joe
9 months ago |It’s true that full frame in motion picture cameras is not the same as full frame in still cameras. Both used 135mm film stock (with different perforations). On still cameras the stock ran through the gate horizontally and on motion picture cameras it ran through the gate vertically (plus motion had an audio print) and that is why there is a size discrepancy when talking about FF in motion vs still cameras.
Steve Jones
9 months ago |@admin
Full frame is not full frame. What’s full frame on large format, mid-range, large format is a different thing to what it is on 35mm. It’s not a properly defined term, and if what is meant is a 24 x 36mm sensor, then that’s what the article should refer to. Indeed in some video circles, full frame can mean something other than the 35mm 24 x 36mm format.
It seems to me unlikely that there will be a 24 x 36mm video camera using e-mount as there won’t exactly be a large selection of native lenses to choose from, and there are some technical issues about whether many non-native mount FF lenses will be able to cover the FF sensor fully through an e-mount throat with the necessary adapter (especially long focal length FF lenses). What seems more likely, is that there would be a 24x36mm format camera with the ability to support e-mount and a-mount lenses via suitable adapters. That way the e-mount throat size restriction for 24-36mm format could be eased for long focal lengths.
I also know the e-mount throat size is (slightly) bigger than m-mount, but the latter won’t work with very long focal length lenses.
M2
9 months ago |That’s make it easy to decide. I will wait with a NEX FF investment until next year. So the question is now what to buy as travel camera instead ? RX100 ?
Sky_walker
9 months ago |I’d go for RX100 – you hardly can get more pocketable then this while still keeping a decent image quality. It’s one of the things that never gets old
mb
9 months ago |that’s what I am going to do – RX 100 now; NEX FF when it arrives and settles down
Amit Zinman
9 months ago |I still think A mount high end camcorders will be more reasonable, especially as I have a bunch of lenses sitting here that I could use without the need for a cumbersome converter.
Matt
9 months ago |It isn’t exactly cumbersome if you are only using A-Mount lenses, just leave it on the camera. At least with E-Mount you have more lens choices to mount than with E-Mount.
ageha
9 months ago |You but no potential buyer.
PJohnsen
9 months ago |The E-mount has always been a dual photography and film-making format, however there aren’t many existing professional movie lenses for full format. PL-lenses are for the most part designed for Super 35mm, the reigning format in the movie world (close to APS-C in size). If this rumour is true, Sony would have to push either a new family of full frame movie lenses or its existing alpha mount lenses for movie use, which does sound slightly odd, especially if this really is a high-end movie system.
Sahaja
9 months ago |Some of the Zeiss cine primes will cover.
Joe
9 months ago |hope its a C300 killer, i mean the FS700 already is but the more the better
James
9 months ago |Andrea do you know if the hotshoe on NEX6 is the same “hybrid” one as in A99?
Tommy Lin
9 months ago |All right, I’ll wait for the NEX-7 successor, since I’m still having fun with my NEX-7 for pass half year.
But I still expect the new firmware update of current NEX-7, especially for that damm video button. Hopefully, sony will give us current user a surprise of some new update(or upgrade).
spaceman
9 months ago |Nice, looking for the NEX-8 FF announcement next summer
rikken
9 months ago |Hey Andrea!
2013 sony will be wonderful. I’ll buy FF NEX.
But I want α99 in early october and good bye to α77.
I can’t wait no more.
Is there any rumors about α99？？？
admin
9 months ago |Yes coming! Don’t worry!
ageha
9 months ago |Just wait another 12 months!
Rob
9 months ago |In terms of resolution, could we be looking at 36 megapixels for stills, and/or 4k video?
Bill
9 months ago |No point in full frame if not 4K. Could be very high physical numbers of pixels, 100 MP range, out putting the 8 to 12 MP depending on exact 4K format chosen. This would allow for 4:4:4 color space.
Sahaja
9 months ago |In the photoclubalpa article they talk about the “clear lens throat diameter” being the same as the inside width of the bayonet mount. However lenses have their own metal bayonet ring (and somtimes other stuff) which fits inside the bayonet mount of the camera. When you talk about the “clear lens throat diameter” I think the thickness of this ring at the rear of the lens needs to be taken into account too.
Judd
9 months ago |Great news. What I really hope to see implemented in NEX Full Frame cameras is a flexible crop factor manual control. There shouldn’t just be one 1.5x APS-C mode. It should be manually adjustable, like precision digital zoom, but moving in both directions up till FF frame and down to at least M43. This should be able to be set on a dial accessible via the function button toggle. That will allow for maximum flexibility for pretty much any lens ever made.
Atlasman
9 months ago |Good one!
ageha
9 months ago |Haha, you’re funny kiddo! Better go to bed early today.
Arnold
9 months ago |Ourah ! You just invented the digital zoom
Judd
9 months ago |Yeah, except that it has a crop factor readout on the display, and unlike digital zoom the camera maintains the crop factor after you take the shot
Matt
9 months ago |It’s called smart tele converter.
Ozcan
9 months ago |Some cameras have that feature. It calls Crop Mode. For instance Nikon D800 has 1.6x, 2.7x crop modes from the sensor. But it has some issues.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGIF_-YnmRc
Davidevil
9 months ago |@ Admin
Some picture of the real a99 in the next?!?
Kevin Z
9 months ago |What if 2012 is the end of the world? LOL~~
Rick
9 months ago |A full frame camcorder is going to slot in higher than the FS100/700, no way its priced less – otherwise it will wipe out the market for both of them – and Sony has a long rack record of segmenting its video camera lines and featureset in order to have clear distinctions and price points.
If its E-mount, it’ll be a FS900 or whatever and likely approach $10,000. This camera will be another shot at the C300 in the Sony digital cinema line.
FS100 ~ $5000
FS700 ~ $8000
FS Full Frame ~ $10,000
With the 5n being turned into that goofy EA50 and priced at $4500, a full frame version of this camera with new sensor tech will easily cost thousands more.
OnlySony
9 months ago |Any info about A77 firmware?
admin
9 months ago |Maybe coming in October…
ageha
9 months ago |Waste of time, they better forget about that toy.
Pasu
9 months ago |Any news on Nex 7 firmware update?
taran
9 months ago |I’m beginning to think it will never happen. It’s pretty obnoxious Sony has ignored the issue so long.
Gunnar
9 months ago |i think this was to be expected as one main reason why people turn to FF DSLRs for movies or filming is the DOF.
Cliff
9 months ago |Anyone notice that the FS100 just made a HUGE price drop on B&H?? $800 instant discount for the rest of the year!
Seems that Sony is moving the FS100 “down” the food chain. Prolly to make room for a new model.
Interesting.
Walter Knapp
9 months ago |No surprise that Sony is into only video, even the cameras that they claim are still cameras they are making more and more for video.
WM
9 months ago |Yawn. And you think that Sony are unique in that respect? Open your eyes and understand that is the way things are going. Getting so uptight about it will only hasten you to your grave.
Aaron Ashley
9 months ago |Yes. And what is amazing is that it does not compromise their ability to do stills. Its awesome I love it. It is the only reason I selected Sony otherwise I would shoot Nikon.
gk1128
9 months ago |Model number should be : NEX-V995E
quobetah
9 months ago |Sony is bringing VistaVision format back!:D http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VistaVision
Yong
9 months ago |Is Leica the only brand that has FF sensor in that “smaller than Dslr form factor “?
Aaron Ashley
9 months ago |Seriously this is all fine and great that there will be a more compact version of the fs100 or fs700. Whatever. Its nice. Can you please provide an update on what is going on in the alpha line? I mean when was their last full frame released? 3 years ago or something? What is the specs on the a99? You are our only hope.
Lollus
9 months ago |No problem, I will stick to my Canons then. Sony don’t make my camera? Sony don’t get my money. It is that simple.
Matt
9 months ago |Most pointless comment of the day goes to this idiot!
Lollus
9 months ago |One of the lower forms of life: Matt the forum tosser.
JohnDoe
9 months ago |Don’t bother mate, forums like this are a magnet for imbeciles like Matt. They are their lives. The admin should delete his crap though.
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