(SR5) Full Frame mirrorless from Sony coming in almost exactly one year! 24 or 30-32 Megapixel!
It’s Christmas time and what bad administrator would I be if I wouldn’t give you an SR5 rumor 
1) These last two weeks I contacted all my best sources and they now all(!) confirmed that the next Sony Full Frame camera will not be a new SLT camera. It will be a Full Frame mirrorless camera!
2) Plan of a FF SLT release in 2013 have been dropped to fully focus the development resources on that FF mirrorless camera. Sony’s main priority is to create a real High End camera. A camera that can have all the functions and capabilities of a DSLR (that means for example fast AF). Sony sees that camera as the one that should bring back some significant interests on Sony FF system.
3) The camera is still in the final stage of development. We can expect the release of the cameras by end 2013 at earliest but early 2014 sounds more likely for now.
4) The camera has some key tech not seen on any Sony camera yet. I am still working on this rumor to get some detailed info. So stay tuned!
5) The camera is a bit bigger than the current Sony NEX-7 and not that much different in terms of the design.
6) The camera has a native E-mount and both E-mount and A-mount lenses will be fully supported.
7) One of the trusted sources said that Sony is right now testing two different prototypes. One features a 24 megapixel and the other camera features a new 30-32 Megapixel sensor.
In summary, in about one year the NEX world will expand into the High End Pro market. And this may be a bad news for the Leica M system! I know you have many questions about lenses, specs and so on. I am working on that and as you imagine it’s not easy to get specs about a camera which features are being tested and changed every couple of weeks. So what can we expect in 2013? we will have plenty of new NEX and SLT (APS-C) cameras and lenses. And I hope Sony engeneers will manage it to announce that NEX FF by Christmas 2013! But as I said, it all depends from the development speed. As Sony stated a couple of times, E-mount FF is a “challenge”. A challenge that Sony has no worry to take!
Now a short question:
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jlabate
6 months ago |Good work Andrea. Thank you.
JustSoldMySLT
6 months ago |actually, i am interested to know just how many people here is in support of FF NEX?
Andrea could we have a poll? Just for the sake of it. lol
i’ll just list a FF NEX that is acceptable for me, or even game changing.
1. 24 MP FF sensor, is more than enough MP for me IQ matters more and saves alot more space
2. Weather sealed body, hey its meant to be portable isnt it?
3. 1 SD Card slot, 2 would be a bonus for video
4. On sensor AF, might be great if they could pull it off tho i highly doubt they would do that given that they went OSS for e-mount lens
5. size slightly bigger than nex 7 is fine.
6. 3 custom profiles & custom buttons please.
7. Decent AF system that tracks fast enough (without this no point buying imo)
8. ISO 50 – 25600 seems to be the standard now for FF, please have usable ISO images up to 6400 instead of 1600. (without this no point buying imo)
9. New F40AM LED Mountable/External Flash (would be cool, esp if we could chain them wirelessly)
10. Wifi like what Canon 6D has, its pretty neat and it should not cost much R&D
11. GPS
12. Longer lasting battery (good to have)
13. price under $3,000
This is made under assumption of a portable travel camera rather than a pro camera.
JustSoldMySLT
6 months ago |Sorry a correction.
4. should be on sensor image stablization
Jonas
6 months ago |I use my NEX for film mostly. I will buy the FF nex if it is going to have IBIS.
Why doing a modern top notch premium camera without that? Small pocket cameras have got it. Alpha cameras to. FAIL! Som many are going to be confused and not going to buy.
With IBIS it is going to be a huge success!!!
Taran
6 months ago |Yeah, unfortunately the laws of physics prevent the ability of NEX to retain it’s small size and have IBIS. Try again in 2015.
Mist
6 months ago |The IS in small pocket digital camera is not IBIS but ILIS
Steve
6 months ago |As sensors continue to evolve and the old analog cameras of our pasts change to look more and more like imaging computers I see optics as the elephant in the room. At some point the high MP sensors are going to out-run the ability of the lenses to resolve. What happens then?
Will the lenses in our camera bags be relicts of the past like record turntables and CD players?
Photographers like me are willing to spend one, two or more thousands of dollars on optics because we have learned over time that camera bodies come and go but lenses keep on going and a great lens is a photographer’s best friend.
Is Sony capable and willing to provide the quality optics needed for camera sensors 36MP and greater?
And if not Sony, who is, Canon or Nikon?
Don Cox
6 months ago |“At some point the high MP sensors are going to out-run the ability of the lenses to resolve. What happens then?”
That is how it should be. The sensor should be better than the best lens at its best aperture. It should be able to record every last detail of the image.
Ideally the Airy disc (the diffraction blur of a star, for instance) should be on at least four pixels. Nine would be better, if you want to use deconvolution algorithms.
I think we are a long way from that stage at present.
Vladimir
6 months ago |Sony -is Minolta,and Minolta -is Leica.
Gojiguy
6 months ago |more customizability. Fix the MF assist glitch.
And allow my current NEx adapters to work on it. I heard many vintage lens adapters for NEX dont work on the VG900…
a1exko
6 months ago |does anybody mentioned that wide-angle lenses are MUCH better and cheaper for mirrorless? Look at newly developed SEL 10-18mm f/4, nothing below $1000 even close to this small and compact zoom. I expect that landscape shooters will migrate to NEX FF.
And yes, I would not expect lenses like 70-200/2.8 or 24-70/2.8 for NEX FF.
NEX is perfect for primes and wide-angle primes/zooms. In couple with this kind of lenses it could be compact and make use of its relatively weak AF system (no hurry for landscapes and acceptable at low-light with primes).
Be realistic! Mirrorless and SLR/SLT do have their own advantages, which are not the same!
RVN
6 months ago |SEL 10-18/4 is APSC lens, if you compare it with APSC A-mount 11-18 you will find the A-mount lens is cheap. it’s same with SAL 35mm/1.8, SAL 50mm, etc
RVN
6 months ago |futhermore photographic is not just landscape, or street, but many thing. for do that we need a right system on it, and i think nex is not as good and complete as like A-mount system
Little Monster
6 months ago |it is probably going to be too expensive for me at launch. It will take time to get the lens for the system as well…so just enjoy the tools I have on my hand till this system mature. I don’t think the sensor size is the problem of my photos anyway. Happy Holiday everyone!
John
6 months ago |Sony are bound to play down future a-mount FF plans at the moment. They want people to buy the a99. Not wait for something either better or cheaper next year. Sites like this help them manage expectations, without having to commit to real (published) product plans.
Tom L.
6 months ago |+1
Danillo
6 months ago |I’m finding all the backlash against this somewhat shocking. Admin has been alluding to a full-frame NEX for a while now, and there’s the full-frame NEX video camera. So this rumor is basically confirming what seemed to be written on the wall all along. Also, there’s nothing in the world that stops Sony from continuing to make A-mount camera, and nothing in this rumor to suggest they’ll stop.
I see the full-frame NEX as a revolution. It’s almost like an open-source mount. When the translucent mirror becomes unnecessary, and it is going to, the large flange distance become an anachronism. They can make an e-mount camera the size of the a99 (just narrower), except it could be used with basically any lens one could ever what to put on it. Isn’t that better? I have a-mount lenses, and I’m super excited to know that I’ll be able to use them on a E-mount body. This rumor is all good news, as far as I can tell.
Rob
6 months ago |The open-source option has been available since day one for Nex – and has there been any evidence of a big switch going on? Just because this new model will be FF, do you REALLY think that there will be any more switching? Who will switch – will it be Nikon or Canon users? Both have options for sensors with that are already in the ballpark, if not better, than what is being described here. If you think that a smaller body will matter to them, think again because using big lenses on the little body won’t make much of a difference to the overall size. I gotta say this notion is nonsense. Nothing new here folks, move along. The company who was going to bring in a “game changer” is delusional.
Mist
6 months ago |No one know who will or will not switch or join until the product is launch.
Lets us see.
SVOR
6 months ago |FF makes better sense for pre-digital prime lenses. A compact body may not balance a large zoom or prime so well as an SLR but that is going to be a matter for personal choice based on what kind of lenses you normally use. Leica M seems to work OK but it may be too early to tell.
Jerry_R
6 months ago |Mirrorless, EVF – is future. dSLRs will be shrinking.
We can observe that since Panasonic G1 release.
It accelerates.
Good move!
Robert
6 months ago |I can’t see how this would be bad for the leica M system. Its a different type of camera (rangefinder) in a different price class.
You could just as easily say its bad news for the nikon D800. It has just as much similarities.
I have both a leica M9P and a sony nex 5n and both are totally different in use. Sure I can use the M lenses on the NEX, but that doesn’t make the nex a replacement for a rangefinder camera. Not at all.
Actually, since I bought both sigma’s 19 and 30mm, I hardly use the M adapter at all on the nex.
Infocus
6 months ago |I’m not so much interested in FF as long as the lenses for e-mount aren’t absolutely top, both in primary and
thethirdcoast
6 months ago |What about people like myself that love the low-noise output of the Sony 16 MP sensor? I had a 24 MP Sony A77 and I was more satisfied with the 16 MP output and the 8 extra MP really didn’t do much for me.
Don Cox
6 months ago |If you double the area of the sensor and double the number of pixels (from 16M to 32M), the quality when viewed at 100% should be the same.
But on the same size print, it will look better, because the enlargement will be less.
Jacky
6 months ago |FF-NEX with OLED back screen under $2000 (body) with compact Zeiss 24mm F2.0 and 85 F1.4 prime (both 3-way stabilization) will create a new era of photography.
Almazar80
6 months ago |Would it kill Sony to release a 24mp E mount full frame and a 32mp A mount full frame? I would be upset if Sony does not produce a native A mount mirrorless camera. I like using both systems and if the E mount full frame isn’t that small, that sort of gets rid of the E mount selling point. If, on the other hand, the produce an intechangeable mount camera with built in IBIS, that would be FANTASTIC!
Don Cox
6 months ago |What do you mean by a “native” A mount mirrorless?
If that mount is fixed in place, you would not be able to use E mount, or Nikon, or Canon, or Leitz, etc etc lenses on the camera. And it would be no different from an E mount body with an LAE adapter glued in place.
So why not make the adapter removable?
Rob
6 months ago |Don, because, the AF is compromised compared to a native alpha mount AND because you lose IBIS. Those are HUGE factors – how in the world can you try to ignore or minimize them? IBIS WAS a point of pride for alpha, and now is disposable? Rubbish.
RVN
6 months ago |+100000
Almazar80
6 months ago |IF they produce a full fram E mount with an adapter for A mount and sensor based stabilization, that would be phenomenal. Imagine how many Canon and Nikon users, in addition to A mount users, would flock to such a camera. Without IBIS, the thought of not having a full frame mirroless A mount camera is near unacceptable. There are too many good A mount lenses out there to be deprived of an A mount full frame mirrorless with in body satbilization.
Daemonius
6 months ago |This will be nail to coffin of dSLRs. Make EVF fast enough and bye bye dSLRs.
Otherwise low mpix = better SNR and better colors. Which is good, and low SNR can in theory give bit better DR too (more recoverable shadows). So 24 is good choice, given there can be improvements of already pretty good today tech.
Rob
6 months ago |Umm look at the list of best selling cameras. This won’t even be a thumb tack in the coffin – more like a sticky note.
Denis
6 months ago |Sorry, it’s pure BS you’ve stated.
The more MPX usually is better for the same generation technology: better colors (NEX-7 vs NEX-5n), higher resolution. And about the same high iso performance and noise levels.
minornik
6 months ago |Merry Xmas 2013 !!
ras
6 months ago |awesome. i just hope it has more traditional controls like the rx1 or leica s2 and stuff like that.
Vladimir
6 months ago |Nex-9:
1. design: FUJI X-E1
2. No filter AA
3. no AF
4. no Flash
5. no Video
timon
6 months ago |Fuji X-e1?
Please Read more,
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3353913
The imaging quality Sony Nex-6 is better than Fuji X-e1.
Rob
6 months ago |Really, I wouldn’t be making such a fuss if A99 wasn’t such a huge disappointment, and now we’re stuck with it as a flagship for another 2-3 years. I’m not buying it. Game changers on the horizon? None. Incremental gains from apsc to ff Nex are trivial.
Renato S.
6 months ago |I’m having a hard time trying to think about the FF NEX when the APS-C NEX doesn’t have a lot of the lenses people want, I wonder how is that going to be for a new FF mirrorless camera. Didn’t they say that it’s hard to come up with good optics for a FF with he E-Mount?
Rob
6 months ago |I agree – already there are two systems that, in terms of lenses, are over-promised, and under delivered. Might as well add a third!
Rob
6 months ago |The whole operation stinks of desperation. Excellence cannot exist in that kind of atmosphere.
Renato S.
6 months ago |SLT solution is a bad solution for today’s technology, SLT was created so you can still have phase detection AF while shooting a movie, but it turns out that today you can do that without the SLT and without losing 1/3 of the light.
Sony clearly doesn’t have the resources to keep both A-mount and E-mount fed with the lenses that are needed and what about a FF E-mount then? Differently from Fuji whom has shown tremendous commitments towards their system – with new firmware, each camera correcting flaws from the antecessor, more lenses, etc. – I can’t really buy that Sony can deliver that so soon.
Sony took 3 generations to be able to bring a good prime combo and it still lacks at least a portrait prime and a fast zoom, how much more will it take to Sony show their commitment?
Almazar80
6 months ago |I would not say that the Fuji system is more/less complete than the NEX or Alpha system. Perhaps for your needs, the current NEX lineup is insufficient, but for many others, it is more than sufficient. What’s a portrait prime, for example. The 50mm f1.8 on APS-C can be classified as a portrait prime. Heck, a lot of Cartier Bresson’s portraits were taken with a 35mm prime (on 35mm). So in that regard, the 24mm is a portraint prime. The 35mm f1.8 can be used for portraits. The upcoming 85mm f1.8 can be used for portraits. Again, almost any lens can be used for portraiture – it depends on your creativity, your point of view, etc.
Yes, the NEX is lacking in high speed telephoto primes. I’d like a 50-200mm f2.8 system, but that would be a fairly large lens. Even a 50-200mm f4 zoom would not be that compact.
Rob P
6 months ago |On second thought, a 30+MP sensor would be nice so that existing APS-C e-mount lenses could also be used (for portability) and still get, what, at least 18-20MP? That would be very nice indeed.
Stephen
6 months ago |That is a great idea. The camera could automatically crop those images.
joe1946
6 months ago |Full frame E mount lenses available today:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?atclk=Mount+Type_Sony+E-Mount&ci=1884&N=4292338124+4190025432
Full frame NEX available today :
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8343/8194434390_dcb0dbdbea_k.jpg
John Maverick
6 months ago |+1
FF NEX
6 months ago |Finally, I have waited for a full frame nex for years, the only thing holding me back from buying a mirrorless camera is the sensor, I just like the ‘look’ of an FF camera that you can’t get from aps-c camera. I’m not saying that the current mirrorless offering is not sufficient, I own a fuji x100 and it is awesome, one of the best tool for photography. Yet I always crave for those full frame look with my x100. I hope Sony can realized my dream. Just follow what Fuji did with their xpro-1 and I believe Sony will succeed, a wide angle prime(or zoom), a fix 35, a fix 50 and a macro. Just make sure that they are all high quality, the only thing holding me back from buying current nex cameras are the lenses. Keep up the good work, now I can’t wait for the end of 2013 =)
Wayne Summers
6 months ago |they were probably working on this camera from day one but know they need lenses .I Think this is awesome and I can’t wait
Wayne Summers
6 months ago |I guess people forget about third party lens makers. I am sure there will be plenty and from what I understand sigma and tamron quality control has gotten better.
Calxn
6 months ago |Now, they just need to shutdown the slt line that nobody wants and devote resources to Nex. Why are they releasing new lenses for the miniscue number of slt users? Sony needs to get their priorities right. They are forsaking the vast majority of their interchangeable lens cameras users to cater to the small number of slt whiners. Enough is enough. Sony camera division must wake up and realize who butters their bread.
SonyCyberPunk
6 months ago |how many lenses does A mount offer comparing to E mount again?any pros shooting e-mount?please enlighten us
Andy Pandy
6 months ago |I’m pleased I have not bought lots of Sony A mount lenses meant for FF, as I feel the A99 could be the last A mount FF camera. Why do I think this? Well the high MP FF Alpha has been pulled along with the mirrorless FF A mount camera. The stars of the Zeiss ZA lenses the 85mm f1.4 & 135mm f1.8 have needed an updated for a couple of years or more, yet there has never been a hint that this would happen.
Sadly I can see the demise of the A mount in favour of what I beleive is am inferior E mount, which doesn’t allow inbody AS which was one of the main reasons I bought a Sony DSLR.
I’m sure the FF Nex will be a great camera, small and compact and it will eventually have a range of new lenses which are required to get the best out of the new camera. Sure you will be able to use A mount lenses with an adaptor but they will be heavy and make the camera unbalanced in the hand due to their size and weight.
Huge financial difficlties Sony is facing has caused them to rethink their future and from what has been written today I can only conclude that they are ditching the FF A mount. A sad day and I hope I am wrong
calxn
6 months ago |I sympathize with yours and other Alpha owners’ plight, but everyone must accept the reality of the situation. Sony has huge financial difficulties and must prioritize. If they continue to divide their attention between the low volume, low success Alpha line and the highly successful NEX, they become a jack of all trade and master of none. There are a lot of NEX owners who also own superior Canikon DSLR systems. The main reason is that we see the NEX as the MOST PROMISING mirrorless system on the market. We’d like Sony to push NEX forward to the point where our Canikon DSLRs are no longer needed. We want a more pro mirrorless system with high quality lenses. The fact is many of us watched Sony’s effort with DSLT with great anticipation, but fast forward years later, and it has not succeeded. Sony is an aggressive company, but they lack focus. They have a chance at success with NEX. They need to focus that aggressiveness into that one chance of success. Divided focus is not going to bring Sony any success.
I sympathize with you guys and hope you guys will find a way to forgive Sony. Let’s all hope Sony brings out an amazingly kick ass FF NEX system that will make both SLT and NEX users happy. We all have an idea of what our ideal camera would be, but no one has given it to us yet. Sony FF NEX is the closes thing that comes to my idea of such a camera so I’m rooting for them big time.
Almazar80
6 months ago |My local Best Buy said that Sony SLT cameras went out the door at a faster rate this year than in previous years. It may be possible that Sony did a good job selling equipment this holiday season. We won’t know for a few weeks, but all the doom and gloom here may not be reflective of what’s really going on in the marketplace.
Almazar80
6 months ago |I would not equate rumor to official company policy. Until we see what Sony actually comes up with, or even announces, we cannot really divine what their eventual plans for the A and E mounts really are. I would say that with Panasonic, Olympus, Sony having financial difficulties, it is impossible to predict what their future product lines will be. If Sony is seeking feedback on possible future products, here is mine. Don’t abandon the A mount just quite yet. Big fast lenses should mount natively on bodies that are suited for big fast lenses (not a dinky E mount full frame, in my opinion). Now, I like light camera bodies, but sometimes you need some heft to counterbalance those larger lenses. A mirrorless A mount full frame with stabilization is still a great product to bring out. In fact, an A57 size mirrorless APS-C A mount body with the features of the A77 (and with great low light capability) would be very welcome as well. Those nice zooms of Sony, melded with such a body would be phenomenal.
calxn
6 months ago |The counter argument to your argument is that the market for fast big lens is relatively small. Very small. Consider that most of that market is already owned by Canon and Nikon. What’s the point of being a me too product in a small market, dominated by two other competitors with a deep history of trust among users?
Sony’s decision to focus on fast primes for NEX is very promising. Leica has survived for decades doing this. They don’t have big fast zooms. A few good, f/4 zooms would be enough for NEX to capture most of the prosumers. The few who need 500mm or 70-200/2.8 lenses will still buy Canikon. Sony doesn’t need to be everywhere. Sony can take the consumer, prosumer, and Leica market and still be a dominant force in imaging. NEX is their key to being a solid #3.
Almazar80
6 months ago |This is why I still think that there is a market for the E mount full frame and A mount full frame. A lot of E mount users (including me) like the E mount for its compactness. I would not like to lug large lenses with such compact bodies. I still need to use the long big lenses, however. The A mount cameras are great for that. Thus the rumor that Sony is abandoning the full frame mirrorless A-mount camera, for me, is a great disappointment.
calxn
6 months ago |Sony must chose and chose carefully. My (and other dual system owners’) enthusiasm for NEX is at the same place as your enthusiasm for Alpha. It’s at a standstill because of lack of progress in lens. Sony has a window of opportunity, but many of us have no specific loyalty to the Sony brand. Continue to give NEX the divided attention they’ve been given, and Sony will be faced with TWO disappointed groups of owners. I own only two lens for my NEX and keep one eye on Fuji. Sony must chose. Unlike you Alpha owners, I will not hesitate to ditch my NEX system if I believe they continue to waffle on the NEX system.
Hopefully, this reply makes it through SAR’s commenting system.
JustSoldMySLT
6 months ago |Almazar80:
Well, let sony come out with FF NEX in 2013.
And pray they release FF mirrorless a-mount in 2014.
Since by 2013 they would have nail down most development work, having it in a-mount should be relatively quick imo.
As usual this would be sony’s stop-gap measures that might just work.
What we consumer wants is a system that could be used for both pro and travel.
If these 2 mirrorless FF could do it, they have my dollar.
calxn:
Yes, given the lower price of NEX system.
It is easier for people to leave that system compared to SLT.
That’s why i see this as part of sony’s stop-gap measure to stop people from leaving in the lower tier.
calxn
6 months ago |NEX-7 + 24/1.8 + 50/1.8 is almost $3k. How is that lower tier? Admin said high quality FF NEX with new technology. Translation, it’s their new flag ship. Sony’s Alpha line has lower growth potential than NEX because it doesn’t bring anything new to the Canikon party. NEX brings size and weight advantages. Cost is not the reason why people are buying NEX. In many cases, it’s more expensive than the same equip for Alpha (e.g. lens).
calxn
6 months ago |I see your point on lower tier. You were making a point that it’s cheaper to switch, but it’ll still cost me to switch to another brand. That’s why I’m holding back to see if Sony truly believes in this system. So far, it appears they are putting more effort into SLT than NEX and E Lens.
Mars Observer
6 months ago |24MP or 32MP?
It all depends on what the crop factor will be when using existing (APS-C) emount lenses.
I’d like to use my existing emounts and obtain at least a 16MP image.
I think Sony should be able to achieve this using a 24MP sensor but if not… then 32MP it is.
calxn
6 months ago |The answer is 36mp. To get a 16mp cropped image, you need 36mp FF. It’s easy to calculate 1.5*1.5*(cropped resolution). 32mp gives us about 14mp cropped. 24mp gives us about 10mp.
24mp isn’t going to cut it in 2013. The next phase of FF is 54mp (24mp APSC * 1.5 * 1.5). This is why all the rumors about the next Canikon FF is in the 50+ mp range.
I agree, I’d like around 16mp cropped since FF NEX lens will be scarce for awhile so I’d like to use my APSC NEX lenses till they come out, and no, I refuse to buy Alpha FF lens for a FF NEX. They will look ridiculous on the camera.
pjpo
6 months ago |Dear confused,
APS-C is a 1.5x crop factor, so to have 16mp in crop, you multiply by the crop factor and get 24mp for full frame. Why do so many keep saying it’s double? Four thirds/MFT is a 2x crop factor. 32mp could be a full frame version of the Olympus OM-D E-M5′s 16mp Sony sensor. 32mp would give 21.3mp in crop mode.
John Maverick
6 months ago |You use crop factor to get equivalent focal length. But area of full frame is more than double APS-C and needs a corresponding increase in pixels. fullframe=36×24=864mm2 APS-C= 24×16=384mm2 ratio is 2.25 : 1
calxn
6 months ago |Dear pipo,
please don’t miss anymore of your math 101 classes.
signed,
society
p.s. calxn and John Maverick are right.
ruffy
6 months ago |6) The camera has a native E-mount and both E-mount and A-mount lenses will be fully supported.
LIKE LIKE LIKE! OH YEAH!
ee
6 months ago |People are asking lots of questions, but the only real question that truly matters: Can a Leica lens be used effectively on this new camera? Is a mount possible?
SonyCyberPunk
6 months ago |LOL doesnt really matter tbh. why dont you buy an m9? its puzzling tbh!
Mech T.L.
6 months ago |Well, since the VG-900, and the Alpha-99 it’s almost open secret that this would how it come to be. Sony need new native E mount FF lens though
Clyde
6 months ago |Better have FF Pancake lenses or I’m gone.
fredrik
6 months ago |A FF NEX… and the lens?? cant compete with a leica
really… your sentence is a fanboy sentence ..sony can do great electronic, but leave photography for the big and fly down… leica lenses are the best in the world for the small size and resolution and construct quality and focus and i can continue here 
nex can compete with family photographers or… maybe with playstation users too 
mike
6 months ago |ONLY A FILM IC CHIP SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONY do you coppy?
DuncanA
6 months ago |fredrik……. leica lenses are indeed some of the best in the world. That’s why I use them on a Nex 7! The adapters required are tiny and the controls are and functions are excellent. Yes, Leica quality is still better, just not £5k better anymore!
peter
6 months ago |please correct me if I’m wrong but a full frame sensor is much bigger then APC-S ones. that’s why lenses are different. so nex e mount lenses will be smaller then the size of the full frame sensor…. so it will be like nikon. like a DX lens on a FX body. it’s really a piece of crap then. sure you can use a mount lenses but then it will be huge.
still, it will be great camera and a game changer.
Ian Timothy
5 months ago |Would buy one if its got a mic input and I suspect it will ~ I have used canon for the last 10 years and I was simply stunned when they produced the EOS-M with two lenes ~ they missed the boat if they had hit the market with a full frame mirrorless with ef mount pancakes 22 50 and a fast zoom they would have hit the mark ! I will wait now I am getting good results with my 60d’s time is on my side!
Fabian
5 months ago |SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!
Seriously, though, if this is basically a FF NEX-7, then I’m all aboard.
rafa
5 months ago |microlenses! my only wish.
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5 months ago |This is AWESOME news! I am now putting my camera purcheses on hold until this baby comes out. Finally aony is making some sense! Love the full frame. I just hope they can remove rhat magenta over tonevproblem that the nex7 had! I also hope sony slightly improves the color over the nex7. Nex7 had kind of biased toward reda orange and browns hopefully they can lighten up and improve tje color. Nex5n and leica m9 have more appealing color to me. Finaly i really hope that they offer it without an AA filter. Look at how well m9 and xpro1 perform in sharpness because of the lack of AA filter. Hopefully it will at least be an option like nikond800 and d800E.
James
5 months ago |Great news, if accurate. My only comments would be – another vote for a lower megapixel but clean-at-high-ISO sensor. I never really needed more than 16 GOOD megapixels even for wall sized enlargements (assuming my technique both in capture and processing was spot on) – it’s more about great ISO performance, how clean the image is, good colour rendition, dynamic range, etc. some great, fast, primes and zooms, not just sharp but with good rendition and bokeh will be required too if Sony wish to compete with the best on this one. And full manual control over video with 24p options, etc., as many FF users such as myself now use FF cameras for film making too, but would love to ditch the big, ugly, heavy DSLR for something like a FF NEX if it’s genuinely a viable, flexible, alternative. Sony have the video prowess to ensure this. Oh and forget AF for video. No pro DPs use it, it’s nonsense.
Antony Moore
5 months ago |I’d like an A99 ‘lite’. Fewer bells and whistles, no video, not even 12 fps. Just a FF with a high quality sensor at about half current A99 price. Any chance??
Antonym.
EddyH
6 months ago |The D800 and A900 are from a different generation of sensors. It’s just silly to compare them. If you compare the D800 and A99, the differences are quite small, except for low light. Just read the DxO Marks that were published today: http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Publications/DxOMark-Reviews/Sony-SLT-Alpha-99-New-full-frame-sensor-is-Sony-s-best-yet/Comparisons