(Sony A7sIII, Sony A9, RX) What we know and what we don’t know…

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On April 20 (London) or April 23 (Las Vegas) or in June Sony could announce a new High End FF E-mount camera and a new RX camera. Here is the little we know and the lot we don’t know so far:

What we know for sure so far:

  1. Sony has a press conference on April 20 in London and April 23 at around 2pm Las Vegas time. There is also one more announcement in June.
  2. Sony registered two new cameras in Asia. Usually we have to wait a couple of months after registration before those get announced.

What we can hope to get on these next three Sony press events:

  1. New Sony camcorders (NAB)
  2. Maybe a new Sony High Speed E-mount camera (A7sIII?, A9?). If not on April 20-23 that camera might be announced in May/June.
  3. Maybe a new RX camera (but that is more likely to be announced some time after the NAB show in May/June).
  4. Maybe the new 16-35mm f/2.8 GM and 100-400mm FE G lens

A source who claims to have seen the new A7/A9 camera told me this:

  1. Sony says this is the camera they made for PRO photographers
  2. The camera he saw pretty much looked like the current A7 series
  3. It’s fast and has a low resolution sensor

So to sum up the possible new Sony High End E-mount camera specs:

  1. Sony will announce a new High End E-mount camera (sometimes between that now and June)
  2. It has a low resolution sensor (could be around 20MP but it’s unconfirmed yet)
  3. It has the fastest autofocus system of all Sony E-mount cameras yet
  4. It records at around 20fps
  5. Records 4K (probably at 60fps)
  6. It’s a tiny bit larger than the A7 series but pretty much keeps the same size. It has not an integrated battery grip like the Canon 1D series
  7. Dual SD card support
  8. unlimited RAW recording (if supported by the right cards)
  9. It uses the new A6500 menu system
  10. Touchscreen
  11. It has a joystick on the back
  12. Bit longer battery life and small ergonomic improvements on the body
  13. Name is unknown yet but it might be a Sony A7sIII (but really, I have no confirmation on that yet)
  14. Price is high (probably between $4,000 and $5,000) and current A7 cameras will not be replaced that model (they will keep selling at the current pice tag)

Very wild rumors:

  1. There has been speculation and wild rumors that there might be two new FF E-mount cameras the coming months: A9 and A7sIII.

Looking further:
This High End camera will be available with high-resolution sensor (and lower speed) sometimes later (probably on market by early 2018).

As you see there is little we know so far. I hope this week Sony will not disappoint us and announce something E-mount and/or RX related. If not than we will have to wait two more months :(

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Specific A7sII astrophotography fix request…

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Two astrophotographers sent me these messages. I am absolutely no Astrophotography expert but Sony may take note of their issues:

Nico (creator of the image on top):As an occasional starscape photographer, I was impatient to see what i could get with the superior low light performance of my new Sony α7s Mk2. But unexpectedly, all my results were definitely worse than on my « theoretically inferior » previous Canon body. Searching the web, it appears that Sony has implemented the star eater, which was quite infamous among the small astrophotographers community on Sony α7s Mk1.
The star eater is a filtering aimed at removing any hot pixel on the picture. Simply put, it is a median filter on the raw signal. Such median filter erases any hot pixel, thus preventing the appearance of any chroma noise. But for people who want to photograph stars, that are 100% similar to a hot pixel on the raw signal, the star eater erases them too. This is especially bad when using a camera body like the Sony α7s with large pixels and sharp (and expensive) optics that deliver star images smaller than a pixel.
All my trials on the Sony α7s Mk2 show that the star eater is activated for any exposure larger or equal to 4s, and in any mode, any ISO. I have made a comparison by taking exposures of 3.2s and 4s to show the difference and stacked them. The effect is pretty disastrous with the vast majority of weak star totally erased on 4s images compared to 3.2s images. The same conclusion was also obtained by a deepsky astrophotographer on Sony α7R Mk2 (https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/58706594).
This is really bad news for the whole community of starscape photographers, who typically use exposure duration from 5s to 30s and have access to very sharp optics. Therefore I wanted to share this in order to warn starscape photographers that if they use the Sony α7s Mk2, they will not be able to avoid the star eater, which will very strongly affect their images.
Sony has been aware of the star eater issue on Sony α7s Mk1 for years by the small community of disappointed deep sky astrophotographers (examples) who need bulb mode for getting exposure duration from 30s to 4 minutes. But Sony engineers have not fixed the issue, and they have even made the things infinitely worse on Mk2, because the star eater is activated for any exposure longer than 3.2s, and therefore affecting the much larger community of starscape photographers.

Romain:That’s not really a rumor, more of a “complaint” towards sony. But a huge and important one, and I think more people need to know the problem.
A lot of astrophotographers including myself made the evidence that sony is cheating on RAW files, adding what we call a “star-eater” algorithm to erase hot pixels.
It’s probably makes the image better for usual photography, but it essentially removes stars from astronomy pictures and induces a significant sensivity drop
When A7s was released, astronomers immediatly found out about that algorithm, but it was not that big of a problem because it only applied on shoots taken in BULB mode. Even in astronomy, 30s is enough for most purposes, so community was kinda fine.
Then, sony announced “uncompresed RAW” for its future line up of cameras, and we thought this stupid stuff was over. However, even in this mode, nothing changed and BULB mode was still unusable.
And recently, sony “patched” their algorithm with the most recent firmware ( 3.3 ) and extended the bad stuff to any exposure time above 3.2s on the A7R2. I have no data about the A7S2 and it may be concerned too, but luckily for us, our community is mainly using A7S ( since version 2 didn’t improve sensitivity ) and firmware didn’t come on that model.
So what, where is the real “RAW” file we all want ? Yeah, sony is providing “uncompressed cheated raw files” now. And it may be better looking at first for usual photography, but there may be some stuff we loose too, since no one really tested that. Furthermore, you can still apply that algorithm afterwards if you want.
Or something like an on/off switch in the menu would be perfect.
But I think many people would agree on the fact that sony should provide us “real” RAW files if we want it.
So I think this deserves to be known, and maybe then sony will react. Because we tried to contact them, and it didn’t do anything for now, probably because there is less than 10.000 astrophotographers…
Here is some links to prove what I say :
http://blog.kasson.com/the-last-word/sony-a7rii-long-exposure-spatial-filtering-with-fw-3-30/
http://www.cloudynights.com/topic/498339-sony-a7s-star-eater-algorithm/
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/58706594
https://community.sony.fr/t5/appareils-photo-alpha/a7s-pas-de-pose-longue-et-des-brutes-bidouillees/td-p/2049681

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Today only: Adobe Photoshop Elements 15 & Premiere Elements 15 for $99

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Today only: Photoshop Elements 15 & Premiere Elements 15 for $99 at Amazon and BHphoto.

Sony A7rII:
Free Lightroom 6 with the A7rII sold by Amazon and Adorama.
Various A7rII kits with free grip and cards at Amazon and Adorama.
Free 2 Terabyte USB 3.0 drive with the A7rII sold by BHphoto.
Free Adobe Creative Cloud 12-Month Subscription with the A7rII sold by BHphoto.
Sony A7rII on sale for $2,199 on eBay (Click here). This is a grey imported model with 1 year US seller warranty.

Sony A7sII:
Various A7sII kits with free grip and cards at Amazon and Adorama.
Free Rode VideoMic with the A7sII sold by BHphoto.
Free Bag and SD card with the A7sII sold by BHphoto.

Sony A7II:
Various A7II kits with free grip and cards at Amazon and Adorama.
Free bad, SD card and battery witht he A7II sold by BHphoto.

Sony A6500/6300:
Free bad, SD card and battery witht he A6500 sold by BHphoto.
Free bad, SD card and battery witht he A6300 sold by BHphoto.

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This week SAR readers photos selection

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A recent fashion shoot for Rally Fashion Magazine. Shot on Sony A7RII with Canon 70-200 f2.8 on a Metabones adapter for close ups, and wide shots on Laowa 15mm f4. Lighting was mix of reflector and Flashpoint strobe. I had been to Ayers Natural Bridge as a kid but this was my first time coming back as an adult. The park staff was really accommodating in letting us get into the old abandoned power house which is now covered in foliage. Our model Amy Victoria was fantastic and had no reservations getting on top of the naturally made rock bridge.

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Still hot: A7rII for $2,199 (imported model)

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This one is still running: Sony A7rII on sale for $2,199 on eBay (Click here). This is a grey imported model with 1 year US seller warranty.

Kit deals:

Sony A7rII:
Free Lightroom 6 with the A7rII sold by Amazon and Adorama.
Various A7rII kits with free grip and cards at Amazon and Adorama.
Free 2 Terabyte USB 3.0 drive with the A7rII sold by BHphoto.
Free Adobe Creative Cloud 12-Month Subscription with the A7rII sold by BHphoto.

Sony A7sII:
Various A7sII kits with free grip and cards at Amazon and Adorama.
Free Rode VideoMic with the A7sII sold by BHphoto.
Free Bag and SD card with the A7sII sold by BHphoto.

Sony A7II:
Various A7II kits with free grip and cards at Amazon and Adorama.
Free bad, SD card and battery witht he A7II sold by BHphoto.

Sony A6500/6300:
Free bad, SD card and battery witht he A6500 sold by BHphoto.
Free bad, SD card and battery witht he A6300 sold by BHphoto.

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