(SR4) Nikon D4 uses a new Sony sensor!
A couple of days ago I asked my sources if the future Nikon FF cameras will still use Sony sensors. They gave me all the same answer…YES! The upcoming new D4 will indeed use a new Sony sensor which will be “tweaked” by Nikon engineers. The same sensor will be used by the future Sony FF translucent camera that will be announced in 2012! I am not sure yet about the D4 sensor specs, I know for certain that Sony developed two sensors (probably a 24MPX and a 36MPX FF sensor). The current Nikon D3X (Click here ot see that camera) has a Sony 24 megapixel sensor which is "almost" the same as the one used for the Sony A900 (Click here ot see that camera). I hope to learn more about the new FF Sony sensors soon!
One more thing: I am working on new NEX-7 and A77 rumors. Stay tuned this week. There will be some cool news!!!
Reminder (SR = Sonyrumor):
SR1=probably fake rumor
SR2=rumor from unknown sources
SR3=50% chance it is correct
SR4=rumor from known sources
SR5=almost certainly correct!
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GB
2 years ago |Greattt
mugen
2 years ago |This is Sigma SD1
knurd
2 years ago |Dang that’s an ugly design. I think mugen is right – it’s an SD1.
Ace
2 years ago |eagerly waiting for the nex 7 news!!!:D
Sky_walker
2 years ago |Hm… so Nikon will have Full Frame first with this sensor?
Maybe it’s good – Sony engineers will know what they are against and perhaps finally they’ll be able to put out more of the sensor than Nikon do???? (*holds thumbs*)
FreeRadical09
2 years ago |Great, so Nikon will keep getting better image quality out of a Sony sensor while Sony will be just a tad behind in that department, but just enough to be critized by everyone for it.
Seriously, what is it with Sony that keeps them from being the ones to get the best out of their OWN sensors? How is it that Nikon and even Pentax can do it but not the very manufacturer?
Clearly there must be something going on because it’s ridiculous that Sony keeps shooting itself on the foot and let others get ahead with their own sensors.
The very least that Nikon could do to pay back the “favor” would be to lend some engineers and code writers to improve the JPEG engine of the Alpha cameras.
GH
2 years ago |Sony usually uses a denser color filter than Nikon, resulting in better color separation (especially in the greens) and slightly worse lowlight performance. It is a trade off.
Sky_walker
2 years ago |Issue is that Sony can’t advertise it nor it’s scored in tests anyhow.
But for me it’s a really nice advantage, and I prefer it far better than some minor high-ISO performance increase.
Besides – Sony now will know what Nikon gonna have so perhaps they’ll try harder to beat it???
Twaddler Belafonte
2 years ago |This has been repeated a lot, but where is the proof?
Vlad
2 years ago |Pay back what favor? They don’t get those sensors for free.
Spoon
2 years ago |For example the better colour accuracy as measured by DXO (not the comparison tool, the more detailed single sensor reviews instead).
Carl
2 years ago |Well personally I’d be willing to accept subtly worse image quality (as in A580 vs D5100) in exchange for saving three thousand dollars. But that’s just me.
kalpurush :)
2 years ago |It’s me too Carl.
I won’t be able to buy a Nikon full-frame dSLR due to high cost, but can dream to buy a Sony due to low price.
job
2 years ago |Just think of it… the D3x have the same Sony Sensor in an a900 but Nikon cost 2x more than the a900. So, maybe Nikon is paying an a900′s price just for the sensor alone so Sony is making money out of that hehehe. but I think if its true, it not a good practice… Sony is making a “Quick Buck” but Nikon is having all the credits…
Sky_walker
2 years ago |Differences between A900 and D3x were more than just image quality.
Price difference isn’t only from picture quality.
LEdgars
2 years ago |Nikon put in d3x all the best tech which they have. It is also important, that Sony sold much more A900 than Nikon d3x.
Sky_walker
2 years ago |Did they? Any source of this info?
Twaddler Belafonte
2 years ago |D3x was only priced like that because its only competitor was priced like that. Not saying its not worth it… I’d love to own one (but not at that price).
job
2 years ago |Sigma SD1 is not a Full Frame Sensor. its an APS-C…
kalpurush :)
2 years ago |Much thanks for the cool news Andrea – will wait eagerly
kalpurush :)
2 years ago |Nice addition Andrea
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Sky_walker
2 years ago |Yea! Finally
Thank You Andrea!
And it even works ^^ awesome.
frosti7
2 years ago |nikon using sony ff sensors = sony has really good sensors = nex will have good sensors = im happy
NEX FULL FRAME (24x36)
2 years ago |Please give us a Full Frame NEX Sony!!!
frosti7
2 years ago |YEA! full frame nex petition please + pancakes
mocha
2 years ago |Yes, me too. Nothing can be more exciting than a mirrorless full frame.
Just hope Sony can produce a pro body ASAP to fight against Leica. And of course, please give us the alpha flash hot shoe on it. It is vital to be a pro!
LGO
2 years ago |I wish for this to happen to but as it is, Sony is having difficulty producing good lenses for its APS-C NEX so I am not optimistic that Sony will release a FF NEX.
emopunk
2 years ago |Let’s hope this time raw files quality will be on par at all ISOs. It’s really absurd that same sensor has to behave differently on two high level cameras.. :S
kevin
2 years ago |This is news?
Dulaney Ward
2 years ago |Think of it this way, Kevin. If the only “news” of the govenment were what the government officially says, then we wouldn’t have much real “news,” would we? News reporters have to be continually developing better and better sources, and probing them for the REAL news. The same principle applies to corporations like Sony. That’s what Andrea does for this site, and he does a darned good job. In fact he is our BEST source for news. By the time Sony finally makes an announcement, most of what they say is OLD news.
Leo
2 years ago |The A580 sensor score is the same with D7000 (according to DxOmark). Consider the price difference, is Sony really a tad behind? Surely the D7000 is better than A580 in many other department. I just want to point out that the image quality of Sony camera is getting better and better.
El Aura
2 years ago |Nikon got better results out of Sony’s 12 MP DX sensor in the D300 and out of the 24 MP FF sensor in the D3x, partly because they implemented a special, optional 14-bit mode.
No such differences (or claims about differences) have been made about about the current 16 MP DX Sony sensor.
Dulaney Ward
2 years ago |And that’s even though those Nikon cameras use 14-bit conversion.
Spoon
2 years ago |The D300 DR and SNR curves are within margin of measuring error of the corresponding A700 values.
Same for the A500 vs the D300s equipped with the same sensor. Despite the use of 14bit in the case of the Nikons.
The only real difference is found between the A900 and D3X (explained ealier in this thread) and 2 older Nikons using RAW NR (D5000, D90).
Felix
2 years ago |Yes! Leo, that is true. The image quality of Sony camera is getting better and better.
Rob
2 years ago |No sign of Thom Hogan, saying he was wrong to predict the demise of Sony FF sensors?
frosti7
2 years ago |well..he did forsaw the selling of pentax and other stuff 0_o
Carl
2 years ago |Hoya hardly kept their desire to sell it a secret.
Sky_walker
2 years ago |It wasn’t any foreseeing really. Equally good I can foresee that Sony will release A700 successor some time soon. Duh…
Numan!
2 years ago |well..he did forsaw the selling of pentax
Ummm… in 2002 he predicted Pentax getting out of the camera business.
Chris
2 years ago |Thom actually expected Sony to release the new FF bodies that Sony is developing now as Sony had already developed two new FF sensors as of the time of Thom’s writing. You will see this if you review his post.
Thom actually wants the Sony FF to succeed so there will be more competition in the FF market which currently makes Canon and Nikon complacent.
What Thom wondered was what would happen if Sony still does not meet commercial success even after its release of its 2-generation FF bodies. It is a valid question and there is no sense of putting down someone based on an erroneous understanding of what he said.
Spoon
2 years ago |Except that what Thom tends to call “Nikon exclusive sensor designs with possible elements from Sony, probably fabbed by Sony” are in fact the exact same sensors used by Sony themselves, only in some cases with different toppings (filters).
He thinks Nikon is no longer driving Sony sensor production, but both the D5100 and D7000 are exactly doing that. So just like how he was wrong in the case of the 16MP sensor in that area, I have a feeling he will be wrong again in the case of the FF cameras and their sensors.
Numan!
2 years ago |He thinks Nikon is no longer driving Sony sensor production, but both the D5100 and D7000 are exactly doing that. So just like how he was wrong in the case of the 16MP sensor in that area, I have a feeling he will be wrong again in the case of the FF cameras and their sensors.
Yes! Don’t forget his embarrassing assertions (and repeated arguments) in late 2009 when he flatly stated (not guessed, not suggested) repeatedly that Fuji was abandoning APS-C and would have its first micro 4/3 camera out by January 2010.
Don’t forget his repeated claims in 2009 that Nikon’s adding video to DSLRs was a bad move (try imagining Nikon’s sales in 2011 if they’d listened to him). Or his claim that the D700 was outselling the 5D Mark 2, which even he finally had to admit was untrue.
Thom has a great reputation amongst fanboys but he’s widely ignored (at best) by people in the industry.
Dulaney Ward
2 years ago |However, Thom has said, and repeated last week, that the D4 would be announced in late August, and would have an 18-mpx sensor. What is interesting is whether Sony itself will use that sensor in one of the cameras it will bring out next year.
LGO
2 years ago |It is possible that Nikon will use a non-Sony 18mp sensor as a lower-resolution sensor will make it easier for the D4 to perform better in the primary arena that the D4 serves.
But I also expect that Nikon will use the 2 new Sony FF sensors in its other FF camera bodies to distinguish one from the other. So the Sony 24mp could go into the D700-replacement and the Sony 36mp sensor could go into the D3x-replacement.
I think that Sony will use only Sony FF sensor despite the Sony sensor division and Sony camera division being separate and distinct business entities.
Numan!
2 years ago |However, Thom has said, and repeated last week, that the D4 would be announced in late August, and would have an 18-mpx sensor.
He said this at the same time that rumor was posted on Chinese camera rumor sites. Either he gets the same emails that are sent to the Asian rumor sites………or he reads them, decides which ones seem reasonable to him, then immediately posts to his blog before any other English-language sites do.
WilliamLeong
2 years ago |Rob *le lol*
emopunk
2 years ago |Thom will soon appear and foresee further catastrophes for Sony shooters.. Beware, humans!!
Bård
2 years ago |I don’t get it why people feels so pationate about Thom’s predictions and thoughts, it’s just one man expression his opinions. As a canon, nikon and sony user I don’t really feel anything, but obviously some people are so brand loyal that any negative thoughts about the brand they are using is considered a personal attack. If you dont like what he writes just ignore it…
Bård
Sky_walker
2 years ago |“I don’t get it why people feels so pationate about Thom’s predictions and thoughts, it’s just one man expression his opinions”
- It’s because his post was aimed towards creating web-buzz and getting people on his website. He posted very controversial thing which was quickly taken by press & big photography websites, what allowed him to succeed by the cost of Sony and Sony system users.
We know that it’s just personal opinion of mr. with a website, but huge chunk of people don’t and in some miraculous way found him suddenly an expert in predicting anything while he is as good expert as I am or You are.
Carl
2 years ago |To be fair, that’s exactly what Andrea does as well.
I personally have no issue if someone wants to earn a buck off the internet. There are far more important things in the world to worry about.
Dulaney Ward
2 years ago |I agree, Carl. And what he actually said, after all, was that there was pressure within Sony, at a high coporate level, to cease manufacturing FF sensors–not that it was a done deal, but that there was this discussion within the coporation. Honestly, I would be surprised if there were not such a discussion. It’s what bean-counters do all the time: prove it will make money, or let’s drop it.
(And there may have been another angle: if we
re going to have this great 24-mpx APS-c sensor [the one that will be used in the A77], then why do we need a FF sensor any more?)
pancanikonpus
2 years ago |Got one wild question flash to my brain…
What is the different old 24MP FF sensor compare to 24MP APS-C sensor that will going release for APS-C camera? (i mean why produce 24MP in APS-C and not FF) Will the process to turn this APS-C 24MP to a FF 24MP sensor very complex? cause high process cost?
Do you like if A77 is FF 24MP
Carl
2 years ago |Sensor elements can be made any size the designer wants within reason, but all else being equal, smaller pixels will perform worse. Improving the performance of a sensel relative to its area is how the designers earn their paychecks.
Milos Janata
2 years ago |I am definitely for two lines:
1/ low light – 16mpx APC, 24mpx FF
2/ hi res – 24 APC, 32-40 FF
I would even welcome cheap 16mpx FF :]
pancanikonpus
2 years ago |if 16MP FF available, it will cause chaos when everyone looking for FF lenses while enjoy FF IQ. this is a good approach to earn more lenses business right? and then created a root for the users to stick to Sony after everyone of them owned branches of FF lenses – jump ship is not an option
Twaddler Belafonte
2 years ago |Give me a 24mpx APS-C with high ISO abilities of the D3s(if not twice as nice), and no diffraction limitations until f/64.
Bård
2 years ago |>We know that it’s just personal opinion of mr. with a website, but huge
>chunk of people don’t and in some miraculous way found him suddenly
>an expert in predicting anything while he is as good expert as I am or
>You are.
I still don’t get it
EDIT: This reply was placed wrong in the chat thread…
Quiet Please + Metal Flash Shoe
2 years ago |My Name Discloses Wish List: what’s the news on quieter shutter (or at least a quiet mode) and a more durable flash shoe?
There’s more to a photographer’s camera than pixels.
HaHaHa
2 years ago |thought this was an ‘independent’ site but my question regarding quieter shutter and metal hot shoe got removed – weldone Sony!
Vlad
2 years ago |You mean the comment above?
Dulaney Ward
2 years ago |So what was your question about quieter shutter? Sony has been making good progress on that, and needs to make more progress.
Metal hot shoe? Perhaps I have been oblivious, but I have never heard anyone complaining about the Minolta / Sony hotshoe, as implemented on the A700. Perhaps you want to see a standard hotshoe?
piero d
2 years ago |Nikon is totally southbound on the DSLR vendor list.
They made a choice to concentrate on professionals only, who make up a fraction of the DSLR market.
They had to go this way because of a fundamental mistake they made by thinking of cameras sensors as film, betting that the sensor market would allow them to just shop for the best sensors by “some” maker, and thinking they could concentrate on others features of the camera, like the autofocus module, lowlight sensitivity, and service to professionals [professionals ONLY - go to get your camera serviced by a Nikon center without the professional card and you will see].
It turns out that nobody made this fullframe sensor that they needed so bad, so before drowning, they bite the bullet and bought it from Sony. That’s when they came out with the d3/d700/d3x triplet [This is all detailed in various posts on Thom Hogans'site].
They had to find a gimmick to sell cameras that were 5 years late on the fullframe market, so they destroyed resolution and tone transitions to give way for lowlight sensitivity on the d3 (whoever has doubts about that, should take a tour on flickr and compare with a 5d mark 2). They also degraded the d700 voluntarily so to make it cheaper [check the curves on dxomark].
For the real camera, the d3x, they charged an arm and a leg, knowing perfectly well that professionals don’t use it, and for the studio, they go straight for the hasselblad.
Another shoot-yourself-in-the-foot decision was the one of delaying crucial lenses. Canon had the 50mm f/1.2 and the 85mm f/1.2 available for everybody to buy for years, nikon delayed them as long as they could, and they priced them out of reach of non-pros.
Unfortunately for us advanced amateurs, Nikon knows that people make their buying decisions by looking at the blogs of professionals, but we forget that professionals buy a d3 and a hasselblad, and when they say “the images that come out of a d3 are fantastic” they mean “they are fantastic at 3200 iso and for sports, for the rest I will use my hasselblad”.
Also they are aided and abetted by people like James Duncan Davidson, who never having held a camera in his hand before, shoots the sky out of the airplane window on a flight to his next software conference with his d3 and gravely states “this is the best camera in the world, period”.
Canon rightly decided to make their own sensors, thereby coming up with cameras like the 5D mark 2, and the f/1.2 lenses that make it shine. This camera outperforms EVERY nikon camera, except at high iso and extremely high autofocus speed, which are only useful if you shoot actors out of nightclubs at night or sports.
What trick will nikon pull out of this hat this time? I have started to see the nikon fanboys begging for “an end to the megapixel war” so they can still sell their cameras on ebay before they are worth zero…
LGO
2 years ago |Hardly so. A rising tide floats all ships.
Nikon actually did Sony a favor by using its 24mp FF sensor on its D3x and thus making it viable for Sony to make another try at the FF camera market after its unsuccessful bid with the A900 and A850.
Note that Nikon uses a non-Sony sensor in its FF D3/D700, and its D3s – all excellent cameras enjoying wide commercial success, something that the A900 and A850 sadly cannot claim. Nikon’s use of Sony’s 24mp in its D3x has given Sony enough market base to make another attempt at developing a new FF sensor.
Sony will benefit if Nikon will use its 2 new FF sensors in Nikon’s next FF camera bodies. Nikon can if it so chooses use a non-Sony sensor for its D4 as it did with the D3/D700 and D3s sensor.
The danger in fact is if Nikon chooses use a new non-Sony sensor in its upcoming D4 as the risk of being a commercial success will depend entirely on Sony’s new FF camera body being a success. if Sony’s 2nd-gen FF cameras does not succeed, then Sony may just discontinue it.
I want Sony to compete in the FF camera body market. So I am hoping that Nikon will adopt Sony’s sensor in its D4 and in the process, help ensure that Sony will earn enough to justify coming out with a new 3rd gen FF sensor in the future for a 3rd-gen Sony FF body. So much is rising on the commercial success of Sony’s 2nd gen FF bodies for the continuance of Sony as a FF market player. Nikon’s adoption of Sony’s sensor makes it easier for Sony to do so.
Sky_walker
2 years ago |I don’t think they will just throw out FF if only 2nd generation won’t succeed.
First of all you need to know what’s success in this part for Sony. One may think it’s number of cameras sold. Other may think it’s good reviews and very nice PR for entire Sony Alpha line by this. Some other may think it’s few photo-celebrities using the camera and spreading Sony name around the world. Finally – it might be increase of Full Frame lenses sales being a sign that more and more people grow up to get ready jumping into Full Frame. I don’t know what criteria Sony took for it, and I think noone outside of Sony management can really tell you anything about it beyond pure assumptions.
Secondly a sign that Sony won’t abandon Full Frame market is their deal with Zeiss who devoted itself into production of A-mount Full Frame lenses only. Future of full frame was more doubtful back in 2007 when Zeiss released DT lens and noone really knew which direction company gonna take. Now we know that the direction is to build things from down to bottom and establish itself slowly on an entire, stable line-up. Entire line up with Full Frame.
Lastly the Full Frame cameras for most of customers starting their photography adventure are a sign that Sony is serious system with a serious offer for any his needs. Even if costs of FF camera development will be greater than income out of it – Sony may keep the line just to be viewed as a big player, cut itself off the Pentax/Olympus syndrome where they are “small guys” versus “big two” – right now Sony floats in-between small and biggest players but they definitely try to change it all the time and create the big three of serious systems (IMO: they even have succeeded in it already).
El Aura
2 years ago |piero D, it is hard to know what are actual facts that informed your opinion and what are evidently incorrect statements that you utter to hide the (possibly lower) actual motives behind your opinion.
Or you might consider posts here as a platform to vent your emotions and any evidently incorrect statements used therein thus being just artistic tools to achieve that.
Well, I think we roughly get what your point (and emotional state) is. Unfortunately, if you have to denigrate other people in the process, this does not endear you or your emotional position much.
Iliah Borg
2 years ago |> Canon had the 50mm f/1.2 and the 85mm f/1.2 available for everybody to buy for years
And what is the benefit of those lenses, in your personal experience?
Twaddler Belafonte
2 years ago |Nikon’s autofocus does indeed kick major booty. And the d3s is truly a beautiful creature, unmatched (for now) in what it does.
WiredAfrican
2 years ago |Why do Sony keep selling off their excellent sensors to other manufacturers who do wonders tweaking them?….Because it’s a profitable strategy. Make a sensor that is not of a lower “tweakable” grade and nobody will be buying them. Meanwhile Sony gains market share at a lower price point.
Sky_walker
2 years ago |Making “wonders” was possible in two-three years ago. Now that’s just minor tweaks, difference floats between 0.5 and 0.3 EV – hardly anything what really really matters, and definitely: far from a wonder.
Carl
2 years ago |More specifically, the sensor division of Sony is separate from the camera division, and they’re each worrying about their own sales targets.
LGO
2 years ago |Sony sensor a different division from Sony camera and each worrying about its own sales target.
True and explains many things.
WiredAfrican
2 years ago |I agree – Having two divisions each with its own sales target and ultimately their own market strategy explains many things. Perhaps if Sony aligned these semi-disparate divisions they would make a kick-ass range of cameras. If the sensor division continues to achieve breakthrough technologies and the camera division focuses on packaging these great sensors in the ultimate camera design….How sweet would that be!
Also I think the delay in bringing to market these achievements, especially before the major competitors, imparts a sense that Sony continues to trail the competition. I strongly believe that Sony has the potential to be the best. I would like to see Sony being a little braver and cutting edge to catapult them to the front of the line, like they did with the NEX and translucent ranges, and then stay in front with software and firmware updates. Let the Canikons and others play follow the leader.
piero d
2 years ago |LGO:
“Note that Nikon uses a non-Sony sensor in its FF D3/D700, and its D3s – all excellent cameras enjoying wide commercial success, something that the A900 and A850 sadly cannot claim.”
Check:
http://www.canonrumors.com/2011/04/canon-destroys-nikon-in-dslr-marketshare/
D3 and d700 were a blip in a market where Sony was moving its first steps.
This time nobody will save Nikon, the high ISO trick is already spent, they started thinking about taking off the anti-moire filter (see nikonrumors) but fuji beat them with the x100.
When you go boy a camera for about a thousand euro/dollars, Sony today has more megapixels and in-body VR.
Nikon paint itself more and more in the corner of professional users only.
LGO
2 years ago |@ piero D
Ha ha ha ha! You might actually be more credible if you said that the moon is made of cheese. Thanks for the laugh.
dyna
2 years ago |@ LGO
EVERY Nikon DSLR uses a Sony sensor. Including the three you mentioned. It doesn’t matter, really. The point is that eventually Nikon’s reliance on outside expertise is going to haunt them.
Andy
2 years ago |The D3, D3s and D700 have Nikon sensors, designed inhouse and manufactured by someone other than Sony.
If Nikon is indeed going to use a modified Sony sensor in the D4 then this is good news as it suggests Sony have a good sensor which will eventually find its way into a Sony body or two.
The D4 & D400 are expected to be launched next month, so August will be a big month for announcements if Sony don’t put back the launch of the A77, A65 & Nex 7.
LGO
2 years ago |@ dyna
Well you are wrong. There are some sensor being used in Nikon’s current dSLR which were were not sourced from Sony, e.g., Nikon D3100, Nikon D3/D700, Nikon D3s.
For Nikon users, it really does not matter from whom Nikon sourced its sensor. Nikon has several options as to where it can source its sensor but what matters to Nikon owners is that Nikon sources the best sensor for its camera. This seems to be the case and as a result, Nikon is going from strength to strength in its “traditional dSLR” market.
As someone who wants Sony to compete and succeed in the FF camera market, I welcome Nikon’s use of Sony sensor as this helps Sony too.
Will Nikon’s decision to use Sony sensor come back to haunt them if this will help Sony get on its feet and eventually get a foothold in the FF market? Perhaps. But as a consumer, I would not mind and would in fact welcome this.
pancanikonpus
2 years ago |how nice if today we can buy dslr/slt like we customize purchased our desktop PC
Pick the:
1. sensor size/format/engine (Dual/Quad/Oct BionZ 3EXmore)
2. camera body (magnesium alloy, ducable plastic, etc)
3. camera body case/button layout (rubber/plastic, transparent, gold, sapphire, etc)
4. OVF, EVF, Hybrid EVF, etc
5. LCD screen size/type/structure (2″-3.5″; LCD/LED/OLED/Laser; vari-angle/normal/fish hinge)
6. battery rating
then we can exchange the module to play ^^
Milos Janata
2 years ago |Too complicated for managers to come with such a solution.
Carl
2 years ago |Would be nice for consumers, but would probably result in margins plummeting like they did in the PC industry.
I’ll take one with a 1/16000 shutter.
Pacman
2 years ago |a very welcome idea pancanikonpus!
Marcohard
2 years ago |If D4 is good and not too expansive, I’ll wait for the new Sony FF having the same sensor, if not, I’ll buy the A77.
LGO
2 years ago |Sounds like a good plan if the D4 uses a Sony FF sensor.
MWL
2 years ago |I keep on hearing that the D700 was a Sony sensor. If so, why didn’t Sony use it?
Dulaney Ward
2 years ago |The D700 sensor is the same as the D3 sensor, which almost certainly was not a Sony sensor.
But there is often confusion between the D7000, which does have the Sony 16-mpx sensor, and the D700.
acolyte
2 years ago |If Sony came out with the sensor first, why does Nikon come out with the FF first?
Spoon
2 years ago |Are you talking about the previous 24MP FF sensor or rumored developments?
Steve S.
2 years ago |@Acolyte:
So far, Sony has only 1 FF sensor in any Alpha body, and the a900 beat the D3x (with its similar/derived sensor) to the marketplace by quite some time.
As neither Nikon’s D4-generation, nor a next-generation FF Alpha, has REACHED the market yet — and both makers are still struggling with the aftermath of Fukushima — it’s a bit premature to ask why one got to market first; and GIVEN Fukushima, either (or both) may be forced into further delay for other supply-chain reasons.
As for the high-FPS / high-ISO / low-resolution FF sensors — I believe that Sony didn’t do those, neither design nor fab.
- Steve S.
david safier
2 years ago |The sony 850/900 is the best for hdr in my book. It has good dynamic range and all hdr photos need to be photoshoped.
Ben
2 years ago |Not likely