NEX-7 and A77 image leaks thoughts…
I am still working to get a 100% prove that the leaked images are real. Some new sources said yes the images are all real. And don’t get confused by that “NO” button. The NEX-7 you saw was a prototype and it looks like this was a deliberated choice (weird!). I am sure my trusted sources will soon tell me more about the pics! My guess now is that all leaked pictures are real. But just wait a bit until I can give you the 100% reliable confirmation!
The only “SR5 thing” I can say is that I have been told the NEX-7 has definitely a built-in viewfinder and a very Fuji X100 look! And another new source told me the NEX-5 replacement will actually be called the NEX5N and not the NEX5E.
P:S: In the meanwhile I am going to climb my next mountain today. So please be aware that I can answer you in a 7-8 hours only!
xcode
2 years ago |I show my friends the A77 “leaked images” and he claim that saying it’s fake is not convincing enough.
pancanikonpus
2 years ago |i think i might not able to get A77 after launch
budget have to spend on bicycle to do more exercise, else i will disappear from this planet. damm my dream …
Sky_walker
2 years ago |Wait a while – camera will get cheaper after initial ‘wow’ and youl’ll have time to collect money.:)
pancanikonpus
2 years ago |留得青山在，别怕没材烧 ^^
Tomodo
2 years ago |I’ve seen Sony use ‘N’ on their TV model numbers to indicate its a Network model. WiFi?
john
2 years ago |My guess is “NEW”
The next Nex5 ,probably by Christmas 2011, will be Nr for “NEWer”
Then in September 2012, Nrs for “NEWerstill
Opliger
2 years ago |It isn’t false? It’s still ugly
Frosti7
2 years ago |Extremely happy if it wuld be “fuji x100″ look instead of “dimage-a2″ look
Emopunk
2 years ago |So it would have fuji x100 look but no Sony lens to compete with build in fuji x100 optics. What a managing disaster..
Frosti7
2 years ago |There is a carl zeiss 24/2 lens coming up with the NEX-7, thats the same spec’s as the FUJI, i bet nex-7/CZ combo would be as good if not better
I agree that we need more lens, thats why we have this petition here
http://www.petitiononline.com/NEX30mm/petition.html
jackau
2 years ago |the NEX-5N? Sony already had the C3 throw in to the product line up, i see that as indication of its will to develop the product like models as their DC line such as:
DSC-TX10
DSC-HX100V
DSC-HX9V
So NEX line it will be
NEX-C3
NEX-E5
NEX-H7
Continue to use 5X as fix digit will certainly confuse the product line since we already got product code like NEX-5C NEX-5D going around.
IT is better to do NEX-C3D for dual lens kit
NEX-E5D NEX-H7D
JayJay
2 years ago |I wouldn`t say it`s not convincing enough, but it looks a bit like Canon.
Richard H
2 years ago |Tease/
jacksonne
2 years ago |How does this rumored A65 correlate to the NEX-5N? Will there be an NEX-6?
I’m confused with the model number scheme, but I did like the photo and video results from my short encounter with the NEX-5 last year. The size compromise (with 18-55mm lens vs A700+24-70Z) is great when you are on the run during a long vacation.
Sky_walker
2 years ago |Hm… I’m bit disappointed that these came out to be real. But well… >_>
I’m also disappointed that the NEX 7 is x100-alike instead of dimage A2 style. There’s already too much of these retro-alike cameras, and what’s worse: most of them are actually crap up-close (with PEN on top of the list of my disappointments). I’d much more gladly see something in modern design finally.
Dimage A2 design also also was more ergonomical, especially with big lenses that NEX system has, guaranteeng better balance and likely: having more buttons.
As for nex 5 successor naming – looks like we’ll end up with naming mess. Till now it was simple – letter after number was meaning kit, letter before number was meaning camera variant… But no more. Bit weird decision.
Don
2 years ago |+1, having a real grip like with the A2 would make things a lot easier with the longer e-mount lenses on it, and would look a little less silly than on a retro finder look.
Frosti7
2 years ago |the main difference between the “concept NEX-7″ and dimage-a2 design is where they place the flash/evf/hot shoe on the camera.
The Dimage-a2 have slr-like “buldge” on top with those 3 elements (flash/evf/hot) ,making the camera to be tall&big as the a35,
while nex-7 would (hopefully) have the rangefinder style (flash/evf/hotshoe in different places) and would be a much shorter profile then the slr-like dimage-a2
in fact, if you compare the size of dimage-a2 to a35/a55, then dimage-a2 is 16% bigger.
Sky_walker
2 years ago |Why ppl are so crazy about tiny size these days? New fetish after “movie mode in DSLR”?
I would swap bigger camera but with good ergonomics and good balance with my lenses over rangefinder-alike design any time night and day. And keep in mind that many people use NEX with 3rd party lenses which often are bigger than NEX-system lenses – which already are too huge for NEX-C3 sized camera. So there’s huge empty space for an acceptably-sized camera that will be able to use these lenses with good balance and withouth sacrifising ergonomics. (note: it’s body size gonna be notably smaller than A35 anyway due to different flange distance)
“the main difference between the “concept NEX-7″ and dimage-a2 design is where they place the flash/evf/hot shoe on the camera.” – the main difference is that it’s totally, absolutely different kind of camera. It’s something you can’t simplify to 3 points.
“in fact, if you compare the size of dimage-a2 to a35/a55, then dimage-a2 is 16% bigger.” – in fact it’s a size of a body with lens. NOT body alone. If you put 18-200 lens on NEX-C3 it also gonna be several percent bigger than A55 body.
SRL
2 years ago |Thank you,
so many posters worry about size and not the best balance between a small size and ergonomics.
If you use a camera a lot then you understand this and I wonder how many NEX fanboys have much photographic experience.
I wish my a850 and CZ lenses were smaller and lighter but not so much that good balance and ergonomics are lost
I look for a balance of size,weight,image quality and yes price.
GH
2 years ago |System size is very important to me. I can fit my NEX-5, 16mm+converter, and rangefinder 35, 50 and 90mm lenses in a bag that would barely hold my A900 and Zeiss 85mm. The difference means that I have the camera with me almost always. If size isn’t an issue, I’d skip all the middle sized DSLRs and just go to the A900.
Frosti7
2 years ago |having a budge with EVF+Hot Shoe+Flash at the same point is unneeded, i fail to see why having it would make the camera more ergonomic, and if one is interested in big lens then why buy nex anyway? a35/a55 is a better choice for you and for SRL
SRL
2 years ago |Don’t get me wrong, having an optical platform with the possibilities of the future NEX 7 as a second camera in my bag for difficult shots or times that a full DSLR and lens is not practical or too much of an distraction is very useful and if I could use my A-mounts this it would be a dream coming true for many photographers.
I’m not trying to attack the NEX platform; I’m just saying that some seem unnecessarily defensive about criticism of the system.
Esa Tuunanen
2 years ago |> having a budge with EVF+Hot Shoe+Flash at the same point is unneeded
Just where would you put them while retaining all functionality?
They were stacked on that place because that was the only way to fit them aboard (+flash closer to lens would be 100% useless for anything except making lots of red eyes and big shadowed area) without making body wider or removing some functionality. And functionally Minolta A1/A2 are well above entry level DSLRs so they’re actually quite small.
What you ergonomy and functionality shrinkers just don’t seem to understand is that you can’t shrink camera to arbitrary small size without seriously trashing ergonomy and functionality… unless also user happens to shrink at the same time.
Do you also insist people to use city car for the job of the van?
If not then stop insisting every camera to be made inside the measures of that city car.
frosti7
2 years ago |ESA relax, ur not the only camera user, I find smaller cameras more enjoyable and intimate to use, I was once like yourself, looking for the biggest dslr I could afford, but that just put the camera as an obstruction to taking pictures, I find the pre-AF slew ideal in size, and I’m guessing that’s more or less is going to be nex7 size, as for ur question, I would place the evf/hot/flash exactly like in the rendered nex concept
Richard H
2 years ago |Personally I think if you’re wanting it A2/”SLR style” you should just go with a traditional mount (A/K/F/EOS). The point of the mirrorless mount is to make things smaller, so let’s see what they can do whilst keeping it practical too.
@Admin: Perhaps a poll? I feel few would want it A2 style rather than ‘compact’X100 style.
Esa Tuunanen
2 years ago |Majority of the polls are rigged from the start to get wanted result, just like your poll suggestion.
For example result would be vastly different compared to poll about if people want to have three tiers of NEX cameras: One designed for maximum compactness, one “mid” size with still compact size, and one with full size ergonomic grip and non-touchscreen based direct controls.
Esa Tuunanen
2 years ago |Mirrorless isn’t about just making things smaller.
If that were the goal you could do that lot more effectively (including shrinking lenses for every field of view) with smaller sensor regardless is there mirror or not. (just where are small zooms for NEX?)
Mirrorless is mostly about removing limitations of old analog era design:
Long flange back distance makes designing wide angle lenses hard. (reason why rangefinders had good wide angles long before SLRs)
Flopping mirror limits maximum frame rate, makes live view hard to implement in usefull manner and same for integration of video shooting.
That’s why Sony is replacing moving mirror DSLRs with pellicle mirror SLT bodies.
Vegetables called as average consumers just can’t think enough to understand these so marketroids invented that smaller is better for everything.
Sky_walker
2 years ago |“If that were the goal you could do that lot more effectively with smaller sensor regardless is there mirror or not.”
Exactly… and what’s more fun, a – solution for this already exists.
Dulaney Ward
2 years ago |If it’s anything like the camera Andrea has pictured, the NEX-7 will emphatically NOT be a retro design, even though it has some of the general form of a rangefinder. It looks like it will have a much more sophisticated modern design–more like I would expect from Sony. And that’s a good thing.
I have the A1, and I loved taking pictures with it, but its design is passe’ in every way, although we can certainly look back to such cameras & take pointers from them. Retro is NOT the way to the future.
Sky_walker
2 years ago |“It looks like it will have a much more sophisticated modern design–more like I would expect from Sony” – yes, I hope so
But the picture was only a prototype, and the source says that final product gonna have “a very Fuji X100 look” so… >_>
“I have the A1, and I loved taking pictures with it, but its design is passe’ in every way” – oh yea, I should have noted that what I meant was generic shape of camera, not making exact copy in ’90s design. I agree, it wouldn’t be any good.
Frosti7
2 years ago |“a very Fuji X100 look” means that it wont have EVF/Hot Shoe/Flash on top of each other, which is completely silly to have if your camera is not SLR,
having the viewfinder on the edge is much more logical location, makes it easy to have 2 eyes open to make sure your not missing the scene
Esa Tuunanen
2 years ago |> sophisticated modern design
Trying to invent politically correct name for fashion garbage?
As cameras aren’t anymore tools for photographers (like any digital camera above P&S was ten years ago) and marketing is aiming them as just another toy for the masses of Joe Average Consumers they’ve become fashion products making modern not equal with functionality.
> Retro is NOT the way to the future.
So why all this insane mania for getting anything copied from analog, mechanical era of hundred years ago?
That’s from where squarish rangefinder box and centered viewfinder SLR design are.
Dulaney Ward
2 years ago |Esa, I would venture to say that, in the end, every serious lasting advance in the design of useful tools since the beginning of human time has always involved both an advance in what looks good to the user & others and in the effectiveness of the tool in doing the job.
Furthermore, in every field of design, we are always reaching back in time for inspiration, rebelling against the dominant aesthetic of our day–but never abjectly copying an earlier design. When a tool functions entirely differently from another (as for example in the case of the x-100 and the classic rangefinder) there are many reasons that they should not look the same, aesthetic & functional. Form follows function. Less is more. I find analogue operation of a camera appealing too, but I do not fool myself into thinking that any fully retro analogue design will carry the day. It will not, and it should not.
Nor does it have anything to do with being a “photographer” or not. In fact, a person who is burdened with years of thinking of himself as a “photographer,” and of denigrating those he regards as merely “snapshooters,” is likely very soon to find himself very far behind the new meeasure of excellence set by those despised “snapshooters.”
By the way, Esa, I agree with you thoroughly that mirrorless is not just about making things smaller.
Emopunk
2 years ago |@Frosti7: if the prototypes actually resemble the size of the actual lens, it will in no way compete with Fuji X100. Only a pancake lens could do that. It seems tough, that Sony is not able to make them. Despite of a complete line of pancake lenses for Pentax system already existing, for example.
Frosti7
2 years ago |Its not, the lens in the picture is 24/1.8, while the final design is a smaller 24/2
btw, u can click “reply” if you want to reply to a specific message
Nico
2 years ago |We can’t compare the fuji x100 with a probably Sony Nex-7…
The x100 is nothing but a compact camera with an APS-C sensor (about 12mpix) and a fixed lens, the Nex-7 will be an interchangeable lens body with 24mpix and compatible with a huge amount of lens (in particular the bests Rangefinder lenses ever made) with adapters !!
I’d better like a mix of modern design and old style camera to a lumix GH-2 design (for example) !
CRYO
2 years ago |If the prototype Nex 7 picture is real, it shows it have a SLR style ergonomic grip on a X100 styled body, I think that’s a mix of the best part of both renagefinder and SLR design. I just wish there will have a front wheel on top of the grip
cyrus
2 years ago |Hi Andrea
What happens with this rumor about the crazy hybrid viewfinder 30/70 in the a77 few months ago?
Still any hope?
Sky_walker
2 years ago |Nope, it won’t happen. A77 and 65 have regular EVF. Sadly.
Leslie
2 years ago |Sure do hope the picture of the NEX 7 are just an artistic representation from a guy that love camera phone a la NEX 3/5.In no way does it look like a Konica/Minlolta A2.
Anonymous
2 years ago |Do you guys think the NEX-7 will be able to AF faster with Sony SAM lenses and the sony LA-EA1 adapter?
I hope so.
If not, I hope Sony makes a rangefinder style mirrorless a-mount camera.
Mike
2 years ago |After too many bad rumors you start to feel burned by the site. Eventually you figure out that these rumor sites only get about a week advance notice to what the real products are going to be and it makes you wonder whether we aren’t being duped with all these rumors just to get us to visit.
My point is really for the admin. Don’t get us excited just to get us to come to the site be wise because eventually you’ll slowly start to lose your readers by burning them out. I’m crossing my fingers that you have something worthwhile to post on Monday because I’m starting to feel burned.
I’m sure I’m not the only one either.
horst
2 years ago |If the real Nex-7 looks any like the Fuji X100, that image below is completely off .
And I hope it does not, the Fuji is huge and and just another fixed lens dead end street, none of its technology could be used with a Nex anyways .
Not like there is any that would benefit the Nex .
Anonymous
2 years ago |Oh shut up. The x100 is more of a camera than the NEX-3/5 could ever be.
Carlos R B
2 years ago |nex7 ….LOOKING….GOOOODDDD….
Okee
2 years ago |My feeling is that http://i52.tinypic.com/314bb85.jpg are feak.
Look to the right side.. slot are very small and we know that the A77 support CF cards..
Mark
2 years ago |How do you know if CF card is not inserting from the battery bay?
BornOptimist
2 years ago |So you think they have to remove the vertical handgrip to change CF card?
That would have been a smart move…
If this is legit, it will use SD card
seb
2 years ago |The nex-7 is obviously a (cheap) 3D rendering, not a “real” picture