(SR4) One more APS-C model in the works (A75?)
One of my top sources confirmed that Sony has the plan to release one more APS-C model. It will be a new A7x (probably A75?). Two new (not yet trusted!) and one external sources said that the model will be on top of that Sony A77! And that’s actually a huge surprise. In what can the A7x be better than the A77? The model is definitely translucent and I guess that it will have less Mega-pixels and a much higher ISO range (+ more fps). I hope to get some specs about the camera soon!
P.S.: An external source at Sonyuserforum.de was at a presentation from Sony. They showed a pyramid with the A35, A55, A65 and A77. And the space on the top of the pyramid was empty. That is where the new A7x will be placed.
Reminder (SR = Sonyrumor):
SR1=probably fake rumor
SR2=rumor from unknown sources
SR3=50% chance it is correct
SR4=rumor from known sources
SR5=almost certainly correct!
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A77 at Amazon, Adorama, B&H, J&R, eBay.
A65 at Amazon, Adorama, B&H, J&R, eBay.
Sony NEX-7 Amazon, Adorama, B&H, J&R, eBay.
Sony NEX-5n Amazon, Adorama, B&H, J&R, eBay.
Zeiss 24mm f/1.8 Amazon, Adorama, B&H, J&R, eBay.
Sony 50mm f/1.8 Amazon, Adorama, B&H, J&R, eBay.
Sony 55-210mm Amazon, Adorama, B&H, J&R, eBay.
NEX-5n viewfinder Amazon, Adorama, B&H, J&R, eBay.
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Wheelus
8 months ago |Everyone seems to have forgotten the A65. It’s a lot less money and will do most of the same things in a smaller size. Then should an A79 come out and should you not be able to live without it, you would be better off financially and would have two killer cameras. I see no reason for 16MP. We need to evolve here so let’s look for 18, 20, 22 MP. I’m not a pixel voyeur but Canon has its Rebel T3i. I don’t understand why anyone would be thinking about 16 MPs.
Clyde
8 months ago |No AF/MF button means No SALE… for me.
If that A65 had an AF/MF button I’d be all over it like a light leak on a Holga.
Renato S.
8 months ago |I think that it’s nice to develop a A7_ version with less MP, better ISO performance, etc. because that’s what everybody was actually asking for.
But isn’t it dumb? If Sony was to do it, they should already done it. To do it now will only make a lot of A77 owners very angry and they will be in their rights. You just don’t release a camera to kill it just after that.
Well, it will depend of the release date, since “working on” can be next year release or 2013, who knows?
Pedro Duarte
8 months ago |Ohhh… and by the. way.. if Sony wanted an ISO monster and created the A75… and kept it as SLT … it was hard to understand the logic. One of the strong points of the 16Mp sensor being so good at high ISO’s on the NEX-5N & 580, it’s due to not being an SLT…
So… just think for 2 seconds… it would be hard to catch the logic behind it… And we “know” that the new full frames will be SLT as well …
So… just stop imagining what you’re dream camera would be and just live with it’s real
acolyte
8 months ago |Are you sure? Then I should gear towards NEX 7?
passer-by
8 months ago |The logic is there, Pedro. If this rumor is true, they want to create a camera with high ISO capability + high FPS. SLT is the best way to get high fps.
Edgars
8 months ago |If people desire A75 with 16 Mpix for high ISO IQ and with higher fps or longer series, then I couldn’t see any reason why Sony shouldn’t release it for sport photographers and photojournalists. As many commented here, they really want 16Mpix over 24Mpix and for Sony it is a real signal, they should do that. For Sony it is really easy and costs little just change sensors. From other point of view 24Mpix sensor and A77 camera is released in some hurry (because tsunami disaster) and via firmware will be substantially improved. I think finally high ISO IQ will be very similar to NEX-5n because of A77 sensor higher resolution. New RAW converters release (e.g. LR4, DxO 7) will even improve A77 IQ. Finally there is no real reason (except higher fps or longer series) for A75 release. Fps limits shutter, not only buffer or Bionz processor, therefore only longer series seems to be credible. Again, if card write speed is improved even via firmware as it was rumored recently, there is even less reason for A75 release.
Ollder
8 months ago |Let me see… 16 MP, High ISO… YES!! That’s it. Actually Sony has done it. They call it A580! Or NEX-5n. But not A7x. This is that simple.
FK
8 months ago |I have an Alpha 580, the Image quality is grate but on the other hand compared to my Alpha 700 the Handling and built quality just sucks. That is actually why I never used it for anything besides Studio shoots, and why I still use my A700 so much. So If Sony would be putting a High ISO Asp-C SLT on the Market with the same Built quality of the A700 I might get tempted although an Used A900 would probably still be much more tempting and desirable when it comes to toughness and ISO-Performance.
I think if the guys of Sony wanted to they could actually make a grate FF 16-24mpx competitor to the Nikon 3Ds, with a way lower price.
But then again this is a lot farer away in the Future i doubt.
Davidlam
8 months ago |Buffer size, high ISO noise and diffraction limit are the weakness of A77. To overcome this issue, the simpliest way is to use 16MP sensor and put a large buffer and it can beat 7D/D300s/K5/E5 hands down.
If the new Canon 1D FF is 18MP, having a 16MP APS-C certainly has advantage – being smaller and lighter.
Launch one before Christmas and I’ll get the A75 16MP APS-C instead of A77.
Sony give me 2 more DT zoom lens, 10-24/f4 and 50-150/f2.8 please!
For Actions, I’ll use the A75
For Studio, Landscape and Portraits, I’ll use A900 with primes
For Travel and Street photos, I’ll use NEX-5N or NEX-7
Then, almost all my photographic needs are then covered
mwl
8 months ago |“Let me see… 16 MP, High ISO… YES!! That’s it. Actually Sony has done it. They call it A580! Or NEX-5n. But not A7x. This is that simple.”
No. The a580 is not an SLT and the 5n does not have the pro controls the a77 has. Same amazing 16MP sensor in an a77 would be something they DON’T have and should have had the a55 to be. The a55 and a33 were way too similar and it didn’t make sense. This should have come out before the a77.
acolyte
8 months ago |Andrea, I think people don’t like this rumor :p Is it SR4 that it’ll be on the level of A7x, or is it less than that because it might be A9x?
Chris
8 months ago |A99, exactly my thoughts.
Aalpha100
8 months ago |All speculation, why not read just what Andrea wrote and leave it at that? It’s a rumor!
acolyte
8 months ago |Because we’re bored waiting for A77 reviews!
Tommy
8 months ago |This sums up the entirety of my Internet usage since I placed my a77 preorder. Dear holy Jesus can we please have our cameras or some taste of them already? I’m trying not to lose it.
Type Zeiss
8 months ago |I have not used the a77 yet but if they offered better iso performance, even better evf and even less lag time (not sure how drastically the 1.03 firmware update has improved things) then I am all in. I am going to get an a7x camera eventually, i generally wait a few months for them to sort out the kinks. I guess it is now down to which one.
Kalpurush :)
8 months ago |There won’t be any a7x as it doesn’t look like a smart business decision IMHO.
Andrea, you should lower down the rating to SR2!
danny
8 months ago |Sony, be wise and use CF, they are twice as fast as the fastest SD. We don’t like 1 second bursts !
Terryfried
8 months ago |how many times is this BS coming out. SD at 95/80 MB/s is as fast as any CF. CF has reached theoretical limit and needs totally new version to go faster. and last but NOT least no camera CF or SD gains performance much past 45MB/s. check canon 7D with CF and Nikon D7000 with SD. So
1. SD are as fast as Cf.
2. both are faster than camera uses.
3 STOP Trolling.
acolyte
8 months ago |I’ve learned to ignore these comments even though I don’t own any SDs
I am just waiting for SanDisk’s 95/90 release in Amazon.
BT
8 months ago |Obviously, you have no clue about what you are talking about. Make yourself familar with the CF, SD, SDHC and SDXC card standards, the electrical interfaces and the protocols used before calling other people trolls and trying to intimidate them.
CF is clearly superior to SD and SDHC in all aspects, and it is still superior to SDXC in capacity (CF: 128 PB, SDXC: 2 TB), maximum interface transfer speed as per current specs (CF: 167 MB/s, SDXC: 100 MB/s at present) and compatibility (CF 6.0 cards can be used in CF 1.0 card readers as of 1994 without problems, CF 1.0 cards as of 1994 can be used in CF 6.0 card readers without problems. CF does not enforce the use of a particular filesystem, so it is okay to use the open-spec industry-standard FAT32 filesystem up to its physical limit (8 TB). SDXC enforces the usage of the closed-specification, proprietary and patented Microsoft exFAT filesystem, which cannot legally be implemented in the majority of other operating systems. As a storage medium for images, exFAT has no advantages over FAT32 for sizes up to 8 TB, it is just incompatible with most existing software out there – so not a good choice at all for a transfer medium. It would be possible to support FAT32 on SDXC as well, but the Sony cameras do not implement this, unfortunately. SD, SDHC and SDXC cards share the same physical dimensions but are fundamentally different on electrical and protocol level. There is zero compatibility between these three card standards, so it is impossible to use SDXC cards in SDHC or SD card readers, and vice versa. Multi-controller card readers exist sharing the same card slot, and this is what gives unaware users the false impression as if there would have been a compatible evolution from SD to SDHC to SDXC. There wasn’t.)
BT
Froo
8 months ago |Hear, hear! You and me, BT. You and me.
danny
8 months ago |Ok then, make the buffer bigger, and keep the buffer clearing time reasonable.
acolyte
8 months ago |Buffer can only so big, and the buffer clearing time is a hardware limitation. If A77 has a <24MP option, then you may get away without that limitation.
Dunno the price though^^
Problem's in the file size. How big do you want the buffer to be? 64GB? Then you don't need a CF/SD
Buffer – is a high speed volatile storage basically. Your SD, is the low speed nonvolatile storage. And larger buffer size = bigger hardware & expensive.
fotowolf61
8 months ago |I think this is a missinterpretation. The A9x will take the empty space on top of the pyramid as the top camera model. Not another A7x!
Cyrus
8 months ago |Pleaaaassseeeee…
A57 instead of a75
A55 body
2nd generation a65/a77 evf
2nd generation 16mpx (even the new 24Mpx still Ok) with non overheating problem
A dreammm !!!
frosti7
8 months ago |+1
Terryfried
8 months ago |So if 24Mpx why not just get A65. It is the A55 replacement really.
Cyrus
8 months ago |Not as small as A5x and A3x
Spoon
8 months ago |Rumor already put to death by Paul Genge from Sony. The next camera in the upper range will be an A9x, which most likely means FF.
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SAR needs to clean up its sources.
toww
8 months ago |My thoughts as well. Beatin a dead, dead horse.
PaulW
8 months ago |A useful and prompt intervention from Paul Genge.
Photoclubalpha praised and pointed to another of his recent offerings.
http://www.photoclubalpha.com/2011/09/01/sony-howto-videos-a-different-level/
François
8 months ago |If it’s true, I must say I’m really fed up with this Sony Attitude !
It sounds like : marketing department made the specifications of the A77 : loads of pixels, millions of image/s. Then the camera gets to the market. People complain about the relative lack of high iso performance, and then rumors : “Hey folks, Just wait a few more month, will give you the camera you want.
But for people like me, waiting for the A700 replacement (Mine was stolen one year and a half ago… I’m currently taking picture with a 100 euros panasonic compact) for years, it just makes me want to by a D300s or 7D and sell all those terrific lens you’ve bought from those good old minolta times
Cristian P
8 months ago |Just a wild guess…
Sony a78
-24mp
-dual bionz
-unlimited buffer
-dual sd slot
-mirror slides up inside camera alowing to take photos in manual focus with peaking mode. No light loss…
$1800 us dollars body only.
I would buy it…
Minoltian
8 months ago |will buy a a9x in 2013-2014
false
8 months ago |http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1037&thread=39568682
The next camera to appear is in the upper range is a A9x, according to Paul Genge from Sony. The A77 will stay in the line up for a while.
He posted this on his Facebook page:
“…it never ceases to amaze me how the rumour mill accelerates from one model to the next, to the next and so on. Stock of the a77 has not reached most markets yet, but people are guessing “what next” I almost felt like posting only “lol”. However, in actual fact its probably better to state that the a77 is now in the range for a while, and the next high end introduction will be featuring the number ’9x’ naming…………… now watch what happens to the rumour mill! )”
SonyA77
8 months ago |Which is already on page 1 of this comments section HOURS AGO if people bothered to look back through the comments
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Jakop.com
8 months ago |I love this rumor. I hope this happens. High iso!!! Please!!
noppol
8 months ago |not a very smart marketing or product line movement.
hopefully the space at the top of the pyramid is for the FF-SLT, that’s the only thing that would make sense to me now – considering sony doesn’t open up an entire new level above the top (lol) for the FF-SLT lineup.
rumors are as rumors go, i guess.
Almond
8 months ago |This is the most fail rumor I’ve read in a while. And used to like this site.
Walt
8 months ago |Now if Sony was putting out a true replacement for the a700, a OVF equipped a7xx then there would be something to speculate about with fast moving subjects. But yet another EVF delay machine, no.
Too bad there is no a700 replacement from Sony…
sony A750
8 months ago |is not a A75 actually is a A750
it is a A77 with a optical viewfinder
terryfried
8 months ago |A750 is not as simple as some make it sound. You start by losing peeking mode and spririt level, histogram etc while viewing. then continuas AF during video and 12fps which would probably become 8fps with AF limits.then all the softwear menus etc would need changing to make up for this the AF system may even have to drop to A580′s as curent cross point f5.6 was set up for continuas AF of A77. so AF speed may half or becaume full speed only with F2.8 or above lenses like Canon 7D. I am not saying this is definatly the case but that a lot of R&D would have to be done to find out what can be done and optimise. its not just a case of replacing the veiwfinder.
lordallmighty
8 months ago |Confirmed!!!!!!
it will come with the 34MP FF sensor,
It will be cheaper then the A77,
It will be released with firmware 1.0,
It will not function properly nor take any proper RAWs without firmware 1.03,
Firmware 1.03 will not be released until a month later after you buy the camera,
Sony will spit in your eyes for supporting their products and laugh at you for testing their cameras.
SLTPro
8 months ago |Hi Andrea, isn’t it becoming obvious that the top of the tree is one of the new FF cameras? It does beg the question though if they are developing three new FF cameras (as your sources tell you) and there will be no more ovf cams then where are they on the pyramid?! I don’t see them bringing in another APS-C above the A77, they should just hurry up and drop a FF sensor into the A77 and get it on the market!!
The Lotus Eater
8 months ago |Andrea, your source for this SR4 item may be one of your “top sources”, but he shouldn’t be a trusted source. This rumour did not deserve to be SR4.
Paul Genge, Sony: “…it never ceases to amaze me how the rumour mill accelerates from one model to the next, to the next and so on. Stock of the a77 has not reached most markets yet, but people are guessing “what next” I almost felt like posting only “lol”. However, in actual fact its probably better to state that the a77 is now in the range for a while, and the next high end introduction will be featuring the number ’9x’ naming…………… now watch what happens to the rumour mill! )”
The Lotus Eater
8 months ago |Sorry, I see that the quote was already posted, but my point about your source’s trustworthiness still stands.