(SR5) First Sony A77 and A65 price leaks!!!
Ylovephoto.com found that french A77 and A65 leak at the bottom of page 36 in Réponses Photo (a french magazine). Those are the leaked info and prices:
- Sony Alpha 77 + 16-50mm f/2.8 SAM = 1800€
- Sony Alpha 77 body only = 1050€
- Sony Alpha 65 + 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 SAM = 1000€
- Sony Alpha 65 body only = 900€
What do you think about the price? It’s damn close to what we told you months ago (Click here to read our rumor)! That’s less than the main competition:
Check Canon 7D price at Amazon, Adorama, B&H, J&R, eBay.
Check Nikon D7000 price at price at Amazon, Adorama, B&H, J&R, eBay.
We also told you the lens would cost $799 (in Euro it will be 750). The lens itself costs much less than the counterpart lenses:
Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 USM IS costs around around $300 more at Amazon, Adorama, B&H, J&R, eBay.
Nikkor AF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 $ is twice more expensive! Check at Amazon, Adorama, B&H, J&R, eBay.
Both cameras will be announced in late August. Happy with the price???
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Richard
11 months ago |S A M
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Noooooooo!
emarsh
11 months ago |The magazine doesn’t say anything about SAM on the 16-50mm 2.8 lens. It says ‘Quality’ lens. The ‘Sam’ apparently has only been inferred on the 16-50mm 2.8 lens. The 18-55mm lens of course is the already existing ‘SAM’ kit lens.
Wishmaster
11 months ago |I have to say that I’m pleasently surprised with the price of kit. That is very competitive, and if the new lens is good than it’s price is good too! Can’t wait to try it.
To be honest I think next years G lens for nex will probably be this one but with OIS, so hopefully it’ll be good.
Saporo
11 months ago |S A M ………………………………….. well that keeps the costs low. but S A M …………………………….
twoomy
11 months ago |I’m new to Sony acronyms… what is SAM?
Dan K
11 months ago |SAM stands for “Smooth Autofocus Motor”. it’s one of two sony lens-based autofocusing systems (the other, and generally superior system being “SSM”). older lenses rely on the autofocus motor in the camera body.
Ricardo
11 months ago |SAM – Smooth Autofocus Motor; SSM – Super Sonic Motor.
E
11 months ago |In lens micromotor, but not SSM, or Super Sonic Motor.
Ringfinger
11 months ago |Is that $1500 for A77 body only? Little higher then the purposed $1000 – $1200.
admin
11 months ago |Wait, you have to count that usually stuff in USA is much cheaper. If a camera costs 1000 Euro in Europe than it will cost around $1000 in USA!
Frosti7
11 months ago |Body=1000
Lens=800
Body+Lens kit= 1800? shouldnt the bundle cost abit less?
sow437
11 months ago |a900 costs 3700 here..
Erational
11 months ago |Admin; Can you find out if the A65 has the same AF points as the A77. Can you ask your sources if the A-mount Mirrorless camera leaked here has SSS ?
admin
11 months ago |WIll ask.
Ringfinger
11 months ago |Thank you!
Marc
11 months ago |900 € for the A65 and 1050 € for the A77 ?
I was expecting the A77 to be 1000 € and the A65 around 800 €, hoping for 750 €.
The price difference of only 150 € (body only) between A65 and A77 seems too small. If the price difference is that small, what’s the point in having the A65 ?
I thought the A65 was going to have several features missing, cheaper body, less buffer memory, buttons/dials missing, … combined with an overall lower price (about 250 € less).
Now you can have the A77 … or the A65 which is nearly as good and costs nearly as much :-/
When do you think the street price of the A65 will hit 750 € ?
Jennzhen
11 months ago |It’s similar to NEX-3 and NEX-5. Price difference was not big, but some people still bought NEX-3 wasn’t it …
Renato M.
11 months ago |yeah, but in that price range, that kind of difference makes difference. when you talk about 1000$ range it’s another story.
Jennzhen
11 months ago |Price difference between NEX-5 and 3 was about $100 (~15%).
Price difference between A75 and A65 will be about $150 (~15%).
Whether you look at $ or %, it’s quite similar.
People buy the lower model if they prefer to save $ or don’t need the additional feature.
People buy the higher mode if they prefer better feature and willing to pay more.
knurd
11 months ago |I agree. If anyone can afford the a65 then why not spring the extra $150 for a much better camera. They’re probably expecting the a77 to be constantly out of stock so people will have to buy the a65. Happened with the a33 and a55.
E
11 months ago |That is exactly why a65 is there: To make the a77 look good.
kalpurush :)
11 months ago |The price will go down after the X-mas I guess?
knurd
11 months ago |Perhaps even before Christmas? I got my a55 for a great deal (same price as a33) in December and then it went up $100 in January. Might have just been that dealer.
SRL
11 months ago |Does this mean that the new lens is not a Zeiss its a kit lens with SAM?
And it cost how much?
Raul S.
11 months ago |The 16-50mm f/2.8 it’s a SAM lens????????!!?!?!?!??!!?!?!?!?!?! Why they didn’t made it SSM?????
Marc
11 months ago |Calm down. The magazine calls it “quality lens”, which must be the 16-50mm. There’s no information that this model is an SAM model.
Raul S.
11 months ago |Yeah, you’re right…Sigh…
Videograph
11 months ago |Does the camer have a build-in ND filter for video? could you please ask this?
Nikko
11 months ago |if it is a sam
i will buy 16-80 tomorrow
R1
11 months ago |What is the big deal about SAM? I have the 35 DT 1.8, and I am impressed with the results. It is used next to the Tamron 90mm macro when I go to the gardens. I also have the 2470Z with SSM, so I know the feel and sound of both. If I can save some money by going with SAM, then I will.
Jennzhen
11 months ago |SAM lens are too noisy to use during video recording, I suppose.
Jim Baxter
11 months ago |I was hoping the rumors were false. That camera/grip combo looks very awkward and cumbersome to me and the changed control wheel does not look to good either.
I am hoping but only time will tell.
Jennzhen
11 months ago |MSRP of A900 is about 2x A700.
So can we loosely predict that the price for A99 will be 2x A77, so around $2000?
That will be something to celebrate
(better than $3000 in the fake rumor)
Myst
11 months ago |might be, cause the prism viewfinder was very very expensive in the a900 and quite expensive still in the a850, i would love to see a low ranger a88 at around 1500$ that would pun a dent into canikon’s sales
lollo
11 months ago |the a900 prism was worth 500$ only of assembling labour costs, without parts.
Rob
11 months ago |The EVF won’t be free, so the cost difference won’t be that great.
Marc
11 months ago |The previous range was:
A33 – A55 – A700
And now their successors:
A35 – A65 – A77
599 € – 899 € – 1049 €
Now I’m telling you a secret … but you have to promise you won’t tell it to anybody else !
Sony is going to release the A45 along with the A65 and the A77, price will be 749 €.
But psssshhhh! don’t tell anyone.
Stageshadow
11 months ago |Yes the price is less than the canon and nikon counterparts,
but both use usm/swm (ssm counterparts) and the canon also have a built in Stabilizer!
I think its a aps-c variant of the sony 28-75 2.8 sam, that would fit the bill.
AS
11 months ago |The price of the Sony 16-50 lens is very high if it is a SAM lens, especially when man can buy the marvelous Sigma 17-50mm with constant f/2,8 at $669.
Anyway, the price of the A77 body is just right and I thing will make a good couple with the Sigma 17-50mm.
sleekdraft
11 months ago |wait a minute, is the vertical grip included on that price? is the vertical grip built-in or detacheable?
Clifton
11 months ago |no reason to believe so, as usual the vertical grip will be an additional extra and a luxurious price for a few buttons and a battery clip
SonyA77
11 months ago |Fortunately it will not take too long to get cheap clone grips from China on eBay
As much as I like my genuine A700 grip, I wouldn’t buy a genuine one again at four times the price…
Stageshadow
11 months ago |The price of the 28-75 isn’t that cheap with a ~ € 800 price tag.
So i think the 16-50 would be priced in a similar price range.
and the sigma?
Hope you get a good one…
Their quality control isn’t that great!
Clifton
11 months ago |These are roughly what we expected, but is there any reason to think that the magazine isn’t doing exactly the same as us? maybe even using the same data and putting their angle on it? Afterall is says approx, which would indicate just that.
I really hope that Sony will price their cameras competitively but there is a chain of thought that a lot of manufacturers follow that usually means high price = high quality. I wonder if Sony set their prices of their mid range models to attract current brand devotees to upgrade, undecided purchases to buy sony or to attract current canikons to jump ship. At the semi pro range I think its the upgraders that are the main target and as such, importance on price isn’t paramount, especially when some people have been waiting 3 years+ for something new.
Just bring the damn thing out and make it knock my socks so far off it takes me a month to find them! I’ll cash in a kidney, come on!
Clifton
11 months ago |oops!
R1
11 months ago |that’s what she said…
Andrea
11 months ago |Yeah! Bring the A77 on. (I gotta use that phrase about the socks – love it!)
Almond
11 months ago |To be honest, it seems to me like this magazine is just re-publishing rumors…
SRL
11 months ago |I don’t think this little retailer knows anything more than we know here at SAR
Having said this, I must ask the question and please forgive me if I’m having too much fun with this post:
Has Sony made any announcement about this product or is everything still just a rumor?
Do we know the name for sure?
Do we know the specifications?
Do we know when it will be available?
Do we know how much it will sell for?
What do we really know for sure?
Do we know when we will know it?
kalpurush :)
11 months ago |We will know eventually….
SonyA77
11 months ago |Whatever question you ask about the A77, the answer you get is a rumour.
Maximus
11 months ago |I don’t see the news either.
This is a photo-magazine right? What say say seems too me like they were repeeating rumors. –> No source but a user of sources, maybe even of this homepage
And where comes the “SAM” Tag from, new source? There is no info about that on that in the magazine page
lollo
11 months ago |For the camera specs that have been leaked, price is as good as it can get. IMO
R0B
11 months ago |Fake fake fake!
the two camera silhouettes are the EXACT same shape (yes I realise they arent meant to be silhouettes of the cameras themselves), theres no distortion from the page at all, think its a photoshop fake me!
Looks like theyre put there to cover up something else imo
Froo
11 months ago |The silhouette is that of the a850 and not the upcoming camera:
http://www.markstechnologynews.com/wp-content/gallery/sony-a850-dslr-camera-launches-with-246mp-full-frame-sensor/sony-a850-dslr-2.jpg
dac38
11 months ago |Rob … dude no one puts up a silhouette when they dont actually have a picture. If they had, there would be a pic. I am sure D7000 will share the same stick photo [silhouette] as well
R0B
11 months ago |no its the fact that when you put one of the silhouettes over the other in photoshop, they match up PIXEL TO PIXEL, make both silhouettes perfectly black and youll see it is the exact same thing.
It would be impossible for such a match of the two pictures to happen like that on a photo of a piece of paper, all Im saying is those silhouettes on the page have been done in photoshop, and there was probably something in their place on the actual piece of paper
Terryfried
11 months ago |Admin. Could you ask about the 16-50 lens filter size please ?
R0B
11 months ago |Look, heres a side by side of the silhouttes, strange how theres no distortion from a page thats curved at the right hand side :O
http://i56.tinypic.com/x6khvp.jpg
exact same photo, no distortion in sight, admin I think someones fooled you
the silhouettes have obviously been put in on top of something that already existed on that piece of paper, although credit to the guy who did it cos it had me fooled for a bit :L
Rob
11 months ago |Wake me up when it actually arrives. zzzzzzz
acolyte
11 months ago |Rather than doubting the page, can someone just pick up the magazine and confirm it?
acolyte
11 months ago |First page hit googling ‘Réponses Photo a77′ (put it through google translate)
http://www.chassimages.com/forum/index.php?topic=127116.90
Gary G.
11 months ago |SSM should be standard on every lens Sony makes moving forward.
If Sony plans on charging ~$800 for a 16-50mm f/2.8, it should be SSM, period. A great camera body is wasted with a sloppy focusing system like SAM.
Rob
11 months ago |How much is a CZ 24-70 f/2.8 SSM in your neck of the woods? It’s more than double $800 here (actually, about $1800). I guess there’s going to be less/smaller glass in the 15-50 f/2.8, but realistically, what can you expect for less than half the price of the CZ? The 28-75 f/2.8 with SAM is around $800 – which is a better comparison in terms of price and performance. Also, how much is the CZ 16-80 f/3.5-4.5 where you live? It’s a screw-driven autofocus lens – it costs ~$800 here….. So I ask, what do you expect from the new lens given that it’s ~$800? Let’s be realistic and note that all the Sony and Zeiss lenses with SSM and 2.8 cost between $1800 and $2100. You can ask for it an SSM at f/2.8, but I honestly don’t think you’re going to get it. Time to get another job, or give up smoking or find some other way to boost your toy/tool budget!
SRL
11 months ago |Gary,
I don’t think Sony has a SSM lenses under $1,400 USD and that’s on a “G” lens
Sigma sells a 85/f1.4 with its version of SSM for about $900 USD
So, I don’t see Sony marketing a lens using SSM at a price you are willing to pay.
Maximus
11 months ago |The Sony 70-300 G SSM is about 800$, so same price as the new 16-50
David
11 months ago |Hmmm – £842/900€ for D7000 body and 1000€ for the kit…arguably more useful for a good amateur…shame – had been waiting for 6 months for the Sony but…
Mark
11 months ago |yeah, I think it will be SAM not SSM. Not much difference as I plan to buy the body only, already got 24-70, 16-35, 135 , 50, 70-200, mabe a getting a 24ZA instead of the kit lens hahah..
johnjoe
11 months ago |Adminn, what happened to the compact cam announcement today!
JS
11 months ago |Yeah, so we got the verified pictures and an approximate price…..now we just need a nice firm release date so we can start saving our chips….
Jacky
11 months ago |I will get the lens if it is SSM.
Otherwise I will just use the za1680.
Erational
11 months ago |SAMs are crap. There, I said it. I have several SAM lenses and it’s no way to go through life, Son. But, I believe the Sony/Zeiss 18-50 will come with SSM, it’s whole reason for being is to compete on the video front. Sony isn’t interested in the new, quiet M43 lenses besting Sony’s lenses at video. Why do you think the 18-50 has a fixed aperture? The answer is video.
Sony builds the Zeiss lenses to Zeiss specs. No one out there thinks our ZAs were made in Germany do you ? If a lens is a kit lens, it is cheaper because millions of them are made, this concept is called ECONOMY OF SCALE, the per-unit cost is lower because the volume is higher. So, yes they could sell the 18-50 for $500 if they wanted to and give it SSM. It’s a Sony lens with the word Zeiss emblazoned on it. There of course is some fee kicked to Zeiss for use of their name. Cosina has had this same kind of cozy relationship with Zeiss in the past. Most true Zeiss lenses made in Germany are ones 95% of the public couldn’t afford new. It cost a ton to pay those German workers and the Social Democracy takes/benefits. Hey but the ZA line has lovely lenses, don’t get me wrong.
Wouter
11 months ago |If it’s SAM, I won’t buy it. (maybe even change system, because sony lack’s dedicated quality lensen for aps-c)
Dutchie
11 months ago |If I like the new EVF, I will stay with Sony
(I dont like the EVF on the A55 very much).
Sigma has some nice lenses with ultrasonis motors in case this new lens has SAM or is to expensive.
€ prices compared to $ are terrible.
If I dont like the new EVF, the Nikon D7000 looks ok.
Ian
11 months ago |Sorry I am new to Sony kit but am waiting for the A55 successor – is that the A65?
Also, not being well up on the lenses I find it hard to understand these prices. If the A77 body is 1050€ but with lens it is 1800€, what makes this 16-50mm lens worth 750€? It seems a lot for a kit lens. The lens on the A65 works out as 100€ and it is also a SAM lens.
You don’t normally see kit lenses of this value in a package do you? It makes me think the pricing is not quite right.
I would welcome anyones take on this.
pancanikonpus
11 months ago |Thank for the Rumor!
But $750 for a SAM, way too expensive! I could buy 1750 f2.8 tamron and save more.
Sky_walker
11 months ago |it’s SSM.
pancanikonpus
11 months ago |SAm
Sony Alpha 77 + 16-50mm f/2.8 SAM = 1800€
Sony Alpha 77 body only = 1050€
Sony Alpha 65 + 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 SAM = 1000€
Sony Alpha 65 body only = 900€
Ian
11 months ago |Looking at the photo, I cant see where these details have come from? But yes it says SAM for both kit lenses in that description but I dont understand if both are SAM why one is 750€ and the other lens is only 100€??!
Venus
11 months ago |The price is nice, and I wanted so badly to have it, at the end I bought a Canon 7D because I need the camera NOW and not on October or september… I will still look at this camera but I am totally happy with my Canon I paid at the end just 1200 euros for it from Amazon.com Lets see if the A77 can compete with it!
kuzlik
11 months ago |SAM? very noisy for video (((
Ken
11 months ago |how about an a61 (or something like that) withOUT video, and make it even more affordable for those of us that have absolutely ZERO care for video?