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Recuerden los que les digo ahora estamos en agosto del 2011 , SONY , en tres años va a ser el dolor de cabeza que nunca imaginaron CANON y NIKON. Muy bueno la nueva ALPHA 77 , es una mezcla de Canon y Nikon . Excelentes ópticas se están posicionando , a nivel profesional , no va a pasar mucho y veremos reporteros gráficos con cámaras Sony en las canchas de futbol de todo el mundo .-
Sony pisa fuerte y tiene con que , así que señores de Canon y Nikon a ponerse las pilas a full , no vale dormirse , sino chauu a pelar bananas en el congo . Esperemos la reacción de Canon y Nikon . 2014 al 2015 Sony se posiciona a la par de las dos veteranas firmas , estoy hablando de Canon y Nikon .-

I calculated a size of 145x113mm from the compare picture.

bydey

Yes, it will OF COURSE be made of clear plastic.

Take your idiot group spam and shove it.

At last I manage to see the first image of this A77.
I wonder if it made of Magnesium Alloy or ?

Would be strange when you have a grip… not easy switching the CF card.

I’m really not happy they removed this switch! Bad choice from sony.. I still hope this is the A65 because it looks also like there is no option for CF anymore.

A metering switch would definitely be a welcome feature.

Sony77 and SLR, buttons and layout get swapped around or removed time after time.
technology advances and life goes on.
you may lose a button and you gain a truck load of features on the other side.
if you care too much of the missing button, you are not doing your job.
I’m done with you guys.
take care!

Hmmm

“I find it amazing that people can look at an image like this, throw up their arms about a missing button and then claim they are moving to canon”

+100, i am amazed by that too, because of one button that sound like BIG F*****NG deal to them.

but then, physical button like metering, AF mode, SSS switch is really useful if they can retain it. perhaps throw in Fn1 and Fn2 customizable, and a switch that turns EVF/LV. i dislike the auto EVF to LCD LV… i wan the old LCD layout (OVF mode LCD layout in A550/580/850/900). even better if Sony open the firmware for customization!

Sony, as with many manufacturers, are believers in the custom button philosphy of camera design. You’ll have your metering button, one way or the other.

It’s really amusing how many have xray vision or esp to tell them all the features and specs of a camera from a picture. They know it will be such a advanced, perfect, good camera How? Folks know nothing about this camera, especially how it will function for the advanced user it’s supposed to be for. There is no doubt that like any modern camera it will take consumer camera photos but that does not qualify it in more advanced photography and is only a very low level qualification at this point.

Nice, the first good looking Sony SLT or SLR!

will be upgrading to, from a a200.
I love it though so it will stay as my second body.
Too bad I have ZERO money though!
Will make this hard to justify the expense!

It is real (a pre-production model) and there will be some changes (if not entirely)in the production model for consumers IMHO

Agree with you David. It does looks like Canon 7D! I also would hve like a new design. I strongly believe that the final production design will be different than this.

You can certainly have presets on the dial. I am going to miss hitting C for flash compensation, it was handy having it under my thumb.

SRL, it’s on top!

Why? I don’t see anything innovative from canikon!

Hope they fixed the godawful grip battery-door latch from the A700.

Nothing worse than knowing someone did a Friday afternoon job so the thing pops open all the time.

I still suspect that the images are fake.
-See the strange wave on the main dial on the top? (pic2)
-There are a number of unnatural blurs in the pics.
-The upper and lower halves of pic1 look different because of their resolution… see the shutter-speed dial.

@Doug, your post is the best, it makes me want this camera even more.

Having zoom to 100% quickly with one press after taking the picture, gives the A700 an edge compared to canikon where I always struggle to get to the right zoom level with one press of a button.

Can I add some dreams:

- return of the minolta intervalometer in the body to do timelapse recordings, maybe even with onboard video encoding to one of the video standards as well.

- micro AF tuning/adjustment

- digital crop like the A35, just as a feature, it wouldn’t hurt, but gives you extra speed and more telerange but with a lower MP count (would 12 Mp be possible?)

- possibility to memorize two focus points and let the camera interpolate between them while recording video. (for focus shifts, without the need of a follow focus) This is already available in the pro-sumer range HDV camera’s for years, so Sony could easily implement this as a software feature.

My birthday is in december, but I rather have it available for testing before Doug’s birthday

Too little, too late, fanboys.

How many steps are there involved in changing the ISO on a camera that lacks a dedicated ISO button, WITHOUT removing your eye from the viewfinder? That’s one example of the differences between good ergonomics and poor ergonomics.

The ergonomics on the Mamiya 7 and every model of Leica are absolutely awful!

I had wondered about a touch-screen LCD, but it hasn’t been mentioned by the testers or by Sony.

People get touchy when their comments are dismissed by somebody who hasn’t got the first clue why dedicated buttons and their placement is important on an A7x class body.

Anybody failing to recognise that ergonomics are a fundamentally important part of camera choice is either very naive or very stupid.

I actually like the layout.
Here are my thoughts

- I’m hoping the Kit lens is the faster f2.8
- I’m hoping the “Depth of Field Preview” is still on the front.
- I’m hoping the crop button in MF mode is the zoom feature.
- I’m hoping the dial has two custom positions
- I’m, hoping it hovers around the $1000 price point
- I’m hoping I can see a small histrogram in the viewfinder via disp toggle.
- I’m hoping the focus peek mode is available

- I’m liking the AF/MF and Movie button
- I’m liking the zoom in on MF mode
- I’m liking the sweep panoramic

- I’m loving the idea of reviewing image sharpness through the viewfinder. LCD in sun is no fun.
- I’m loving 24MP and high ISO
- I’m loving 10FPS even if viewfinder doesn’t keep up. At 10 FPS it is fire and pray action anyways. One shot will be good and we all know how to pan by now.
- I’m loving the fact the mirror is out of the equation. Sharpness.

- I’m dreaming of focus bracketing and more than three bracketing shots on all bracket modes.

- I’m hoping it is available for my Birthday in November

Doug

Since I see no metering mode switch,I’ll bet the metering mode is controlled by touch on the right side of the lcd. Or,…. by the toggle stick, via a constant display on the lcd and/or viewfinder. Remember also, this has a top lcd, while the a700 does not.

Some of you guys are also very touchy…!
To make the story short: When you are good at what you do, you do not let some little gimmick get on your way.
you just move on, cope and take the damn photo.

BTW, 90% of pros, are amateurs…. even if they make a living at doing it.

Nothing is final until the official announcement. Even the announcement date is a rumour

Personally I’d be amazed if I got hold of one to play with before December!

…that’s like asking for next weeks lottery numbers

Waste of a button though IMO.

Agreeded,
I’m not sure if it makes one a pro or not, but that fact that as a photographer you even notice button layout and ergonomic issues does make me think that you are a more serious than some.
Others, just want it small and don’t even think about Usability let alone performance.
I can’t wait to see the image quality and low-light performance.

There speaks the voice of somebody not having a clue about why dedicated buttons are important under your thumb…

Shitting in banie. And so there will be this shitty glass before sensor.

@Clifton +1 This old pro is certainly looking forward to learning this exciting new camera body in and out. Hopefully the ‘actual final’ version will have a few things this ‘pre-final’ image seems to be lacking. No biggie, though, I can adapt.

Looks like shooting movies is supposed to be more important now

The metering dial was literally my probably my favourite thing when I upgraded from the a100 to the a700

Generally the camera looks great though.

Correct me if I am wrong…
But I could not imgine this A77 as big as A700:

1. Slt technolongy should make it smaller (at least less height)
2. Huge size of vertcal grip suggest less height camera vs DSLR
the difference in height is reported to the grip to get square shape
3. Previous pictures of a65 and a77 showed (if i am not wrong) similar size of both devices
And i do not think that a65 would be that bigger compared to its predecessor A55

I think it looks weird too (not the ratio). I think it may be because there are no buttons down the left side, so it looks weird compared to my A700. It’s not centred under the viewfinder.

What are you talking about? Out of 65 comments there had been ONE suggesting a swap to another brand. Don’t exaggerate.

What are you on about with the “amateurish nonsense” comment? What I have read here are valid comments from existing semi-pro and pro body users.

It appears that the low-end users are the ones not concerned about the ergonomics and lack of buttons, which is no surprise as they have never used a semi-pro model. They simply fail to appreciate why people want dedicated buttons in certain positions.

Yes, the question mark is universal for info or help. How do people not know this yet?

I hope all those who are not happy with buttons layout or other amateurish nonsense, are going to refrain buying this camera or switch to Canon and really walk theirs talk, so when pre ordering will start, it will be easier to get one.

The problem with re-using existing buttons is that you wouldn’t want to lose the buttons you have!

wow…thanks for the nice comparison picture! really helps a lot to figure out the actual size, and i like it!

I am not totally convinced by the button layout, especially the “disp” button seems to be in an unusual position, but I guess it’ll make more sense once they officially announced it and showed/explained all the buttons as well as once I tried it out myself.
However, there is still a big thing that needs to be revealed: a picture of the right shoulder with its additional buttons and the second display!….ohhh…looking forward to that!

In theory maybe possible, but in practise I doubt it as the last working prototype showed no CF slot there either:
http://i51.tinypic.com/244tfg0.jpg

Between 55-65% (compression) *is* very bad jpeg quality.

Your comments on using menus instead of buttons clearly shows that you haven’t a clue regarding the value of dedicated buttons on semi-pro and pro cameras…

The one thing that really stands out to me is the difference in screen sizes. The a55 is clearly a 16:9 but the a77 (although much bigger) is similar to a 4:3 type format.

I tend to disagree. For me, I have no issues using the a200 even though everyone said the a100 is the best in terms of ergonomics. I don’t want to be dicking around which button is what whilst I’m getting that important shot. Heck, most photographers would ADAPT (there’s a word you can learn) to the camera rather than dictate the camera towards them.

I’m sure Sony would have thought of those custom programs and probably done them in a menu anyway or on the dial. Simple really.

What may be a “niggle” to you are genuine ergonomic concerns to others.

There doesn’t appear to be a custom button for example, something I use with my flash EVERY time I use it.

What Sony should have done is given us every button on the A700 and added some. They have done what they did with the A100 to A200, they dumbed it down.

Goto youtube and search for mirror movement
Take a nice and long look at all the lag that will be gone forever when the mirror is history. We are all guessing today, we are just used to it, and good at it.
/E

If they are real (which I believe they are), it still doesnt mean they are of a production model. I find it amazing that people can look at an image like this, throw up their arms about a missing button and then claim they are moving to canon, I’m pretty damn sure the difference in button layout, as well as menus and so on have far more differences to their current camera than the changes between one Sony model to the next. I love my A700 and, to be honest, other than the high ISO performance I don’t have any reason to upgrade really (well, that and my desire for new toys). I am sure that any niggles I have with the changes to the A77 will be minor, I have niggles with my A700, and almost every other piece of electronics I own, who do I write to, I need to tell someone!?

There are other reasons for the SLT approach besides video. Assuming you want PAF, then with an SLT versus a conventional DSLR mirror you get higher frame rates, reduced mechanical complexity, less noise and the ability for AF to work during the exposure phase.

Of course it may be that, one day this might get superseded by a break through in main sensor AF, but for now, the SLT approach has advantages for still photography as well as video.

While I don’t want to knock the camera until I try it — and I definitely will try it when it comes out — I have a few concerns about the design:

1. I’m worried it’s a little on the small side. It almost seems like you need the (enormous) grip to have enough space to hold on to it.

2. The button layout doesn’t seem intuitive. The buttons are too close together, all the same size, and don’t have much variation in how much they’re recessed. Sony seriously needs to look at Minolta’s ergonomics. The A700 was nearly perfect, IMHO. The A850/A900 is even better.

3. What’s with the question mark button?

4. No SSS switch. Granted, I don’t use it all the time, but when I do it’s nice to not have to go into a menu for it. Half the time I forget to turn it off when my A580 is on a tripod just because it’s not visible on the outside.

5. I could probably live with and get used to all the other concerns, but the fact that it has no metering switch is a much bigger concern to me. I ALWAYS used that switch on the A700 and now on my A850, and I always end up cursing when I need to switch metering on the smaller A580 because it isn’t there.

Other than that, it’s nice to finally see what it’s going to look like. I’m certainly going to miss the chunky look of the A700, but the capabilities of this camera should more than make up for it.

Thanks, Andrea!

Looks to me like they dropped at least three buttons/switches from the A700, that’s a backward step IMO.

Why aren’t there two or three custom buttons? This is meant to be a semi-pro!

…and where the hell is the histogram function???

No, it’s larger than the one on the A55/A33/A35.

yep, Ill be upgrading from the a100 as well

So, Sony did these images, and they did such a bad Photoshop job? Maybe they weren’t intended for the public to see, but still…

That’s good news but as one comment says, where is the a77 badge? Shouldn’t that be in even the prelim model/image? If this is real, tell your sources to send a better resolution image so it doesnt look so blatantly photoshopped. But good news regardless. Now where are the real specs?

The smaller, the better, ‘coz I have small hands

Filter size looks larger than 55mm, unless the camera is just that small.

I wonder whether it’ll be 62mm or 72mm?

That BETTER be a new, bigger, lens. Or I’m expecting to be really disappointed by the small size of this camera.

The viewfinder looks tiny, does it not?

I thought they were real. Looks like a solid pro DSLR. My only concern is how live the EVF will perform. Hopefully it’s got dual processors, and hopefully part of the processors’ job will be to ensure live motion. My biggest nightmare is looking through the viewfinder and having to play “guess what you get” when I click. I’ll have to wait and see. I am still very skeptical about EVF/translucent mirror in general. It’s only real purpose is for use in real-time AF for video, which should not be this camera’s primary concern in the first place.

Other than that, the body looks nice although I would have liked to see a more traditional vintage looking body. This just looks like a Canon 7D to be honest. Nothing very original about the look. I’d still like to see and know the full specs on this thing. If it turns out to be a dud, I’ll just buy a second hand A850 as a second body to my current A850.

Seeing this I want to see the image from http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-first-worldwide-picture-of-the-final-a77-and-a65-production-models/ again..

But, please don’t use that shitty image service to upload. Thanks a lot.

Nice to have more pic from different angle. I like the crop function, and take the advantage of 24mp sensor. any more details about the af system?

Looks good….I’ll be finally able to upgrade from my a100. Pity there is no guide on price at the moment.