Debunking A7rII myths? No real improvement on M-mount lenses. Image quality on par with the usual cams (D810 and so).

The first wave of enthusiastic A7rII reviews is over. Now let’s jump into more detailed testing made by two famous reviewers:

1) Sensor performance on par with other cameras:
On the video above Tony Northup compared the new Sony A7rII vs the 5DS-R, D810, GH4, a7 II & a7S. In his testings the A7rII doesn’t show any Dynamic Range or resolution advantage over the Nikon D810 camera. At Low ISO Nikon and Sony are on par with a slight edge in favour of the Nikon because of super clean 64 ISO setting the Sony doesn’t have. But where the A7rII beats the ass out of the competition is the on sensor stabilization. When it comes to Handheld shooting the A7rII clearly is by far the best camera form the bunch!
In Short: On the “pure” image sensor level there is little improvement. But on a “real-world-handheld-shooting” level the A7rII is way better than the competition.

2) No visible improvement with M-mount lenses:
Diglloyd tested M-mount lenses on the A7rII and writes:

The internet is abuzz with claims from those who think that the laws of optics have been repealed for the Sony A7R II, just because it has a new sensor. These claims seem to be based on seeing less color shading, but this has always varied by sensor (magenta with some Sony sensors, green with others). Better neutrality is good, but it’s silly to think this means a whole lot. Sony cannot change the thickness of the sensor cover glass without altering the optical path, and this would wreak havoc on image quality with lenses designed for it.
The sharpness losses outside a small central area are severe, just as expected, very badly blurred/smeared over most of the frame.

As you have seen sometimes reviewers feedback do not match. 3D-Kraft and Bat (leicaboss.com) noticed and improvement on M-mount lenses. Diglloyd is not. This is just a reminder that every review you read is not a 100% perfect fact.

A7rII preorder list:
In USA: at Amazon, BHphoto, AdoramaSonyStore US, FocusCamera, Uniquephoto.
In Europe at Sony DEUK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT. Wex UK.
In Asia at Digitalrev, CameraPro.

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Battery Grip Comparison For Sony A7II & A7RII (Miguel Quiles).

Miguel Quiles tested the Sony battery grip and the third party Meike battery grip. The Meike grip is a great solution for those who want to spend less and you can buy it at Amazon US (Click here) or via many [shoplink 39175 ebay]eBay sellers (Click here)[/shoplink].

Current A7rII discussions at SonyAlphaForum:
Questions about A7r II
A7RII + Canon EF/Metabones IV AF Early Results/Questions
What is a good off camera flash solution for the A7R II
A7Rii first impressions thread (incl RAW downloads)
A7RII + 90 mm f2.8 G macro video test .

First Look with the Sony 90mm f/2.8 Macro G OSS (Diglloyd).
Updated first impression report at Proimagenz.
Sony a7rii – Test Footage 2 – Full Frame & Super 35 – Day 4 from Canon to Sony – 4k (Alex Pasquini on Youtube).

A7rII preorder list:
In USA: at Amazon, BHphoto, AdoramaSonyStore US, FocusCamera, Uniquephoto.
In Europe at Sony DEUK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT. Wex UK.
In Asia at Digitalrev, CameraPro.

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MUST READ! Great A7rII tests by electrical engineer Kasson!

We saw plenty of bloggers and photographers posting their Sony A7rII tests. But it’s time now to get a feedback form a different kind of reviewer. What does electrical engineer Kasson think about the new Sony camera? His principal research area for those six years was color management, color processing for digital photography, and color transformations such as gamut mapping. And these are damn great and must-rad articles you have to click on:

a7RII read noise spectra at high ISO settings (Kasson).
Nikon D810 vs Sony a7RII dark-field noise (Kasson).
a7rII read noise vs shutter speed (Kasson).
Sony a7RII self-heating (Kasson).
a7RII read noise with EFCS on and off, plus silent, continuous (Kasson).

 

A7rII preorder list:
In USA: at Amazon, BHphoto, AdoramaSonyStore US, FocusCamera, Uniquephoto.
In Europe at Sony DEUK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT. Wex UK.
In Asia at Digitalrev, CameraPro.

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New A7rII news roundup (M-mount test by Nick Frank, Video review by EosHD, Low Light test by Cinema5D)

A7rII_really_right_stuff

Brian sent us that picture to prove the Really Right Stuff L-bracket for A7II also fits the A7R II. Also the Sunwayphoto plate works on the A7rII (here at Amazon). And I guess this means all A7II L-bracket you can find on [shoplink 39200 ebay]eBay (Click here)[/shoplink] will work on the new A7rII too.

Nick Frank posted the very first detailed Sony A7r with M-mount lens test. You can download all the files at nickfrank.de. Would like to hear what you think about those images!

Cinema5D tested the video low light quality of the A7rII:

To my opinion, It is safe to work the Sony A7rII (for broadcast purposes) up to ISO 6400 with no problem. You can go higher risking some noise in your footage, but in some occasions it will be more than acceptable.

EosHD posted the first part of his A7rII review:

“The Sony A7R II is a fascinating camera and tons of fun to shoot with. When compared to cream of the crop from last year, the GH4, NX1 and A7S, the A7R II is overall the better all-round camera for both video and stills. Astounding 42MP photos, completely new sensor and internal 4K recording from a full frame sensor, despite heat issues.”

15 tips for getting the most out of your sony a7rii (Colby Brown).
Sony Alpha A7R II Sample 4K Video Footage (Thevideomode).
A7rII vs A7r by Digitaldigest on Youtube.
Focus test: Sony A7Rii / A7R ii with Tamron 24-70mm f2.8 VC lens and Metabones IV adapter by Wayne’s got G.A.S. on Youtube.

Tenbreaths sent me this: ”

Regarding the Chinese Lab A7rII test:  First of all, it’s a Chinese camera rental/repair agency that did the test in its lab.  The comparisons of dynamic range are actually charted:  Two examples
http://mmbiz.qpic.cn/1
http://mmbiz.qpic.cn/2
with the author conceding a “surprising” advantage for a sony camera over the d810 in terms of higher iso dynamic range performance.  But also noting that in the low iso performance area so key to landscape photographers, d810 is still king.
Of course the main issue is the long exposure color noise in the shadows which starts to appear at shutter speeds greater than 1 second, really become a problem beyond 10 seconds, and is like an unwelcome dose of LSD beyond 30 seconds.  The author demonstrates this by comparing pictures which have been adjusted +ev 5 for exposure and +100 for shadows in the shadow areas with d810, 5dsr, (and later on d800e, a7m2, and canon 6d).  This actually could be a significant issue for landscape lovers
http://mmbiz.qpic.cn/3
http://mmbiz.qpic.cn/4
http://mmbiz.qpic.cn/5
and these two charts below compare information/noise ratio after adjusting for the different total pixel sizes
http://mmbiz.qpic.cn/6
http://mmbiz.qpic.cn/7″

A7rII preorder list:
In USA: at Amazon, BHphoto, AdoramaSonyStore US, FocusCamera, Uniquephoto.
In Europe at Sony DEUK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT. Wex UK.
In Asia at Digitalrev, CameraPro.

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Bart (Ex LeicaBoss.com): “The A7RII is probably now the world’s best M-mount camera.”

My friend and M-mount expert Bart from the now offline site Leica Boss sent me this:

The A7RII is probably now the world’s best M-mount camera. I can report that The [shoplink 39161 ebay]Leica Summicron 35mm f/2[/shoplink] and [shoplink 39162 ebay]Zeiss ZM 18mm f/4[/shoplink] both work beautifully on the A7rII. Both struggled greatly with the original A7 cameras. The corner smearing & color shifts have been all but eliminated.
I had a few moments to test each lens at a demo yesterday – and really the only limitations now are the lenses themselves. The “wide open” shots appear to only show the natural aberrations of the lenses, rather than any sensor-produced issues.
Of curse, these pictures are nothing special – but are well enough to understand that we have a real winner for Leica shooters. Unbelievable! Link to images and post:
https://plus.google.com/106990676031669199820/posts/XFcskarmgTM

New A7rII test/news roundup:
Sony A7R II Initial Impressions and Sample Images (SLRlounge).
Real-world samples from Portland (Dpreview).
Field Charging the In-Camera Battery (Diglloyd).
First Look by Movetomirrorless.
Image samples by Reality Scanner.
Sony A7RM2 and a Model Photographer (Blandfordstudios).
A7Rii first impressions thread (incl RAW downloads) at SonyAlphaForum.
Testing out the Sony A7R II with as many native lenses as possible…(Photographyblog).
Ten great new settings on sony a7rii (Brian Smith).
A7rii and zeiss 55 1.8 giving me strange focus jitters? (SonyAlphaForum).

I also got an anonymous (and therefore non reliable) info from a Chinese reader which would be quite worrying if true:

hello, a chinese test lab just tested the A7rII sensor today, they use the same method but different standard compare to DXOmark, more reliable and more practical
the dynamic range doesn’t have much improvement, about 0.1EV better than A7r, still around 2/3 stop less than nikon D810, D810 is still the DR king
the real problem is, due to overheating of the BSI and more heats from stabilization system. the DR can go down extremely bad in long exposure.
in a 30s exposure test, the A7rII is even worse than canon 5dsr
so if turn on the camera and turn on stabilization for too long, long exposure, and using too much burst,can all cause serious drop in image quality

But I seriously doubt the info here is correct. Also because the real world image samples we have seen so far are of superb quality.

A7rII preorder list:
In USA: at Amazon, BHphoto, AdoramaSonyStore US, FocusCamera, Uniquephoto.
In Europe at Sony DEUK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT. Wex UK.
In Asia at Digitalrev, CameraPro.

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New A7rII tests. Gary Fong Introduces The New Sony a7Rii.


A7rII image samples by Mark Galer (http://adobe.ly/1ItECWN).

Note: UK readers can grab the A7rII right now at Amazon UK.

Marc Galer’s A7rII RAW files can be downloaded at http://adobe.ly/1ItECWN

And Gary Fong posted that A7rII introduction video:

Live panel discussion with Sony on August 12 at BHphoto (Click here to read detailed info).
Low Light and Metabones test at Newsshooter.
Sony α7R II review – DAY 5: ClearImage Zoom and Detail setting test by Davide Roveri on Youtube.
A7rII test at Fengniao.
Brian Smith talking about the A7rII at Uniquephoto (Youtube).

A7rII preorder list:
In USA: at Amazon, BHphoto, AdoramaSonyStore US, FocusCamera, Uniquephoto.
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In Asia at Digitalrev, CameraPro.

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Lensrentals says the Sony A7rII is the real first alternative to your big, bulky DSLR!

SonyA7rII

A7rII is now shipping!
In USA: at Amazon, BHphoto, AdoramaSonyStore US, FocusCamera, Uniquephoto.

In Europe at Sony DEUK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT. Wex UK.
In Asia at Digitalrev, CameraPro.

The Sony A7rII is climbing the Amazon mirrorless ranking (Click here). And it will keep going up if more reviews like those will be published the coming days:

Lensrentals writes:

If you’ve been waiting for a better alternative to your big, bulky DSLR, this might finally fit the bill. I’ve been hesitant to say that for the a7S, a7R, and the a7 II, even though I love those cameras, but the a7R II, I think this is the one. Try it out ASAP!

Alin Popescu writes:

How much details the new and first full frame BSI CMOS sensor holds? Well, plenty of! I have yet to find anything to not like about the new Sony A7R II. Until then, I’ll go shoot more with this little gem!

Wimarys writes:

The BSI sensor can capture beautiful images with lots of dynamic range and I’m sure it will score top of the list in technical tests. The slow autofocus which plagued the original A7r is completely gone, and this camera is now quick and responsive. With a burst rate at 5 fps and good follow autofocus and an the improved object tracking capabilities, the A7R II can be used in many photographic fields.

German A7rII test at D-Pixx:
Test:  http://www.d-pixx.de/2015/08/sony-a7r-ii-1-test/
ISOs: http://www.d-pixx.de/2015/08/sony-a7r-ii-iso-reihe/

Plenty of A7rII owners discussions ongoing on our SonyAlphaForum.

And here is the embedded Youtube video of the A7rII live stream event from Uniquephoto:

A7rII preorder list:
In USA: at Amazon, BHphoto, AdoramaSonyStore US, FocusCamera, Uniquephoto.
In Europe at Sony DEUK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT. Wex UK.
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