The Xjrumo leaked video specs are not from the A99 (but maybe from another camcorder!).
Short update about the video specs leaked by the Chinese website Xjrumo (Translation here) . My sources told me it’s 100% sure that these are not the specs of the A99. But there is a surprise…these specs are pretty damn close to another “camcorder model”. That sounds good too 
UPDATE: It may be related to the new E-A mount hybrid camcorders. I am not sure yet but I hope to learn more about it soon..
Reminder: These are the specs translated by one of our chinese readers:
1) AVCHD2.0 format ,below 1080p it have the Bit rate of 50Mpbs,4:2:2Sampling （other model coming next year has 4：2：0）
2) 1080P with the highest 120fps,at 720P, the highest is 240FPS
3) MP4 format still 35Mbps
4) center focus all the lens can use the biggest Aperture. others still F3.5
5) except P model, A,S model can also auto-focus but M model still MF
6) 4 times zoom in during 1080P can be captured
7) multi-recording can take a 2.4Megapixels during recording
8.) HDMI can be Non-destructive Output new shoe can fit the wireless(bluetooth) mic
9) except the high speed model,other model Maximum recording time is 29min 59s
10) Time code support
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Beaur
10 months ago |FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Frank
10 months ago |First loser.
Beaur
10 months ago |Sorry, I beat you to it. You’ll get it if you keep trying.
Exmor RS
10 months ago |Second… wahaha
Frank
10 months ago |and second loser.
grizzler
10 months ago |Thought that might be the case. They look a little too lofty for a 3K DSLR. I suspect these might be some sort of E-Mount FS100 replacement perhaps, sitting above the EA50 but below the FS700. so think around 5-6K. The only thing that doesn’t marry up is the aperture restrictions for AF, such restrictions are only applicable to PDAF in SLTs AFAIK. Point 7 hints at a 2.4MP sensor. Of course the other possibility is a very video oriented A-mount SLT, more like say the C300. Didn’t they mention that these specs were for the A95 rather than 99 anyway…although at this point I’m sure any naming is just conjecture.
VG20
10 months ago |Grizzle no !! all this can be a simple update firmware, also i saw that Sony wanna to push up a little more the bitrate of the AVCHD codec
and this can be available on every NEX by updating
same for the rest…
Also the A95 is a APS-C and not a FF for sure
grizzler
10 months ago |VG20, as much as it would be great if you were right , I dont realistically see Sony giving you specs above the just announced EA50 NXCAM.
VG20
10 months ago |Grizzler, somebody talk to Sony recently and they answer with a “we listen” it mean also all
Don’t forget that the EA50 it’s not the same price range
Don’t forget that the VG20 it’s also a semi pro camera and the price 1,5K not nothing !
Don’t forget that all features can easily add on every NEX camera (start at 5N sensor)
VG20 vs A95
1) AVCHD2.0 format ,below 1080p it have the Bit rate of
50Mpbs,4:2:2Sampling （other model coming next year has 4：2：0）
Easily Possible on VG20
2) 1080P with the highest 120fps,at 720P, the highest is 240FPS
Easily possible on the VG20 (don’t forget that many public Sony camera support this features at 240fps (1440×1080) check the HDR-TD10
3) MP4 format still 35Mbps
Usually they use the MP4 format for the 720p mode, completely possible on the VG20
4) center focus all the lens can use the biggest Aperture. others still F3.5
The VG20 already do that
5) except P model, A,S model can also auto-focus but M model still MF
Whatever this
6) 4 times zoom in during 1080P can be captured
The VG20 do more than that (usually we call that a 4x optical time zoom but anyway)
7) multi-recording can take a 2.4Megapixels during recording
That already exist on many Sony public camera
8.) HDMI can be Non-destructive Output new shoe can fit the wireless(bluetooth) mic
Every hdmi support can do this by adding a new option inside the OS software and release a accessories to connect into the hdmi or mini usb
9) except the high speed model,other model Maximum recording time is 29min 59s
Well the VG20 don’t have this limitation
10) Time code support
The time code exist on the HDMI output of the VG20 but i’m sure Sony gonna release firmware update with all this for the VG20
I was not hope before but now i saw the next Alpha why not to have the firmware update VG20 and like somebody said… from the beginning Sony didn’t release any firmware for the VG20 and for sure now they get ready to do it
I didn’t see any NEX model without a update, even the VG10 received the update juste after the VG20 release
grizzler
10 months ago |I’m not saying that you’re not correct, I just think it unlikely. the EA50 costs significantly more than the VG20 but cant match these specs. For that matter the F3 cant hit some of them either, but there are other reasons for the F3s price. All we can do is wait and see. If we hear of nothing with these specs by photokina then I guess we’re waiting for the NAB show next year.
Rick
10 months ago |I would like to see any meaningful update to the VG20 or a VG30 that addresses all the complaints and shortcomings about the 20, but it looks like the VG lineup is dead. Sony isn’t providing any sort of support as its considered a consumer camera. Sony’s focus seems to be on the Nex stills line and the FS camcorders, the VG has been left twisting in the wind.
If Sony would update the VG20 with the features from the 5n that were not included, I would buy one immediately. Hopefully the silence is because the new 16mp sensor is going to be put in a VG30, maybe even including the power zoom from the new EA50.
Matt
10 months ago |Point 7 is also only 1 decimal point out from the rumoured A99 being 24MP as well as being able to take full resolution stills during video recording, so at 24MP. I feel that error is more likely than Sony creating a newly developed FF sensor of only 2.4MP for a small number of video cameras. But maybe not. A 2.4MP full frame sensor would be an absolute beast in low light and for colour reproduction, dynamic range and resolution (far far less interpolation). So awesome if correct, but being that most of the other things mentioned are quite SLT specific, I VERY seriously doubt they have developed such an uncommon sensor type specifically for an A-Mount SLT.
VG20
10 months ago |You know what
I feel that Sony gonna bring all this stuff on a firmware update for the VG20
i feel it so much
Matt
10 months ago |I think you are being wildly optimistic about Sony’s intentions for the VG20. There might be one more firmware update in the works… for bug fixes.
Having said that, hacking work going on around NEX cameras might be of particular interest to you as these share the same basic architecture as the NEX-5N
VG20
10 months ago |Matt the NEX VG20 don’t share architecture than the NEX 5N
it only share the same sensor yes as every Alphe or NEX product…
Concerning the image processing it doesn’t work on the same way and many different stuff on the VG20 that is not even commum to the NEX 5N Hardware, also the NEX 5N don’t even a clause quality picture of the VG20
I have every NEX camera NEX3 to NEX7 and maybe decided to buy the VG20
but fore sure after all, they have nothing related to the NEX 5N as the VG20 is only take sensor that all.. stop bring false information about the VG20
Check inside the hardware of VG20 and the technical manual you will see the big difference…
Did you open the VG20 and a NEX 5N to check the difference inside, not the chip, the VG20 have also a extra chip that is not even on the 5N,etc…
Matt
10 months ago |Bahahahaha! Sorry I didn’t hear what you just said, all I heard was ‘mimimi mimi mimimi, I love my VG20 because it’s the bestest in the whole widest world alright! Geez, why do you have to say mean things about it, what did it do to you… Meanie head?’
VG20
10 months ago |Where i said that the VG20 was the best camera.
I just tell you that the VG20 don’t have the same hardware than the NEX 5N
the VG20 has only the same sensor that all.
Inside the body of VG20 have an extra chipset that is totaly absent on the NEX 5N, they don’t have the same board, the same chipset or the same hardware configuration.
Check a real picture comparaison between the 2, the picture is far more sharp, more clean and better in low light than on the NEX 5N, also the image procesor NEX 5N is underclocked and some lock on it to prevent a overheating when the VG20 the one inside it’s 2x faster with extra features than the one on the NEX 5N…
It’s like comparing the D7000 and the NEX-5N, you know that the D7000 is far more better than the NEX-5N..
Stop please comparing the NEX-5N to the VG20 too tired to see that… it’s not juste because they have the same sensor that mean all…
Ttam
10 months ago |Even spotty teenagers are teachers here. Miracles of the web…
Matt
10 months ago |@ VG20
Ok, ok well you better send me some links to the magic that is the VG20 then?
Matt
10 months ago |@ Ttam – who are you referring to exactly?
gello
10 months ago |Next firmware for the VG20, will defenetively add the door stop function on a customizable menu.
Sergei
10 months ago |My friend used fs700 on a wedding next to me. Holly smokes guys, freakin ISO 16 000 that actually works. Sony knows its shit but won’t deliver the goodies for us stills people. I desperately need a more capable camera than a850/900 and I start looking at d4 and 5d mklll, but I’d hate to sell all my Zeiss primes, G zooms. Sony, I’m asking nicely, do it right
Exmor RS
10 months ago |Video resolution is much smaller than still (2mp vs 24mp). Most of the noise was averaged out during the downsampling process.
sergei
10 months ago |Then why wouldn’t sony use the same process in a77 if it’s only downsampling? I’ll tell you why. FS700 has a tremendous processor with a fantastic sensor with native iso range 500 – 16 000. Now I don’t ask for much, I want that level of performance in my a850 body or a99, or what ever it is, NOW for work and I’m ready to pay for it. Just make one already, Sony!
雜草
10 months ago |6) 4 times zoom in during 1080P can be captured
It’s 4-step of digital zoom
7) multi-recording can take a 2.4Megapixels during recording
It’s “it can take 2.4mp still image while recording”
Ozcan
10 months ago |I think A9x will have 4k sensor. But won’t record 4k. Rumors say “4 times zoom in during 1080P can be captured”. Maybe it’s kind of Crop Mode for video. Cropping 4k sensor data to 1080.
Exmor RS
10 months ago |Probably for digital image stabilization crop.
Ozcan
10 months ago |You say like “Clear Image Zoom” like A57 and others? Photo mode, there is lots of option for digital zoom. But for “video” if you make digital zoom it will look like a shit. So i think it will be cropped 4K sensor data.
Matt
10 months ago |A9x will have at least a 6K sensor.
lollo
10 months ago |My ass!
grizzler
10 months ago |i think Matt’s referring to 6k horizontal photo dimension(as in 24MP sensor) rather than 6K video.
Matt
10 months ago |Exactly. It is the native resolution of the sensor, which Ozcan above decided was 4K, which would only be a 12MP sensor.
Ozcan
10 months ago |D800 is 36mpx but it does not have 4K video. So I’m saying A9x will have 4K video capabilities.
I think;
- A9x will not record 4K video but it will have 4K sensor
- It will use 4K for “sensor zoom”(Cropped 1080p)
- This is why it -can be- record 120FPS like FS700
- I don’t know what it means: “multi-recording can take a 2.4Megapixels during recording” but if you take picture while recording “image” can be 4K RAW.
- There is no sensor zoom while recording 120 and 240FPS. Also slo-mo option will have shutter limit (Like 1/400)
- It can have built-in intervalometer
- There is no RAW video
- Video autofocus will work amazing with 102 AF points
- It won’t have D800 image quality(This success not just about sensor, also Nikon engineering)
- ISO will be like 5D Mark III
- 4:2:2 and 8 Bit HDMI possible
- SLT will be improved but not like SLRs.(This is also why it won’t be like D800. It’s SLT camera.)
- 12-14 FPS
Matt
10 months ago |@ Ozcan -
I’m really not sure what you are talking about. You say it will be a 4K sensor, but not output 4K for video, it will be used for cropping in video? I’m not quite sure if you understand what 4K actually is, or what it is in reference to but the existing A77 for example, is a 6K sensor that outputs full HD for video. If this is a 24MP camera that also only puts out 1080p, then that too will be a 6K sensor, not a 4K sensor.
I think that a lot of people are getting caught up and thinking 4K = good and new, so this and that must be 4K. Sensor tech has already long ago gone past 4K in terms of sensor resolution, even on mobile phones and P&S. On a 3:2 ratio sensor 4K corresponds to around 12MP, though that would vary depending on aspect ratio as the ‘K’ system (so to speak) is based on horizontal resolution only. The problem with 4K (and above) is the cameras ability to process that much data continuously (ie not using a buffer) and the sensors ability to output that resolution at a high enough frequency (24fps minimum). What you are saying is largely true, however your resolution is off, but none of what you are saying is particularly new.
Aaron Ashley
10 months ago |This was successfully institituted in Panasonic’s GH2 where it used a ;arger portion of the sensor to create a magnification in video without losing quality. A 4 sensor is only a 4megapixel sensor, the a99 will have a 24 megapixel sensor. It still won’t likely shot 4k video though because of processing power, protection of pro gear and lack of any consumer grade 4k viewing screens.
VG20
10 months ago |- A9x will not record 4K video but it will have 4K sensor
Actually every actualDSLR can record in 4K but you need to have a good image processor that can follow, it’s more depend of what software you use too… you know that a timelapse at the resolution 36mp/24mp is more than a 4K video ? you know that a 4K video is also a continuous picture shot ?
Also every actual DSLR record/capture in 4K (depend of the MP resolution)
- It will use 4K for “sensor zoom”(Cropped 1080p)
I’m not going to repeat what i said before… every DSLR crop to the 1080p because they can’t without a good processor or they are locked by the engine software
- This is why it -can be- record 120FPS like FS700
Fail, a simple TD10 record at 240fps with a 1440×1080 resolution (better than 720p) and it doesn’t have a 4K sensor (with one cmos exmor because the another can’t be used in 2D)
- I don’t know what it means: “multi-recording can take a 2.4Megapixels during recording” but if you take picture while recording “image” can be 4K RAW.
10 part record x2,4->24
in real time
- There is no sensor zoom while recording 120 and 240FPS. Also slo-mo option will have shutter limit (Like 1/400)
No is not like, it does a 3sec process for 12sec of slow motion depend how you use it, also the sensor zoom is not related to the recording feature
- It can have built-in intervalometer
Well see but only low budget build as really that feature
is the Pentax Kr
- There is no RAW video
A capture frame is already a raw way but anyway after sure have a body compression
- Video autofocus will work amazing with 102 AF points
Well see about that… actually the OM-D M5 have an amazing af
- It won’t have D800 image quality(This success not just about sensor, also Nikon engineering)
Haha it won’t have D800 image quality, i personnally hate the Nikon engineering that is not really for same stuff too much compression
- ISO will be like 5D Mark III
The NEX 5N sensor as already a better range/iso than the 5D Mark III
- 4:2:2 and 8 Bit HDMI possible
Or more
- SLT will be improved but not like SLRs.(This is also why it won’t be like D800. It’s SLT camera.)
SLT is still a SLR/DSLR or Hybrid
- 12-14 FPS
Or more you never know
GunnarK
10 months ago |“5) except P model, A,S model can also auto-focus but M model still MF”
Should of course be:
5) except P mode, A,S mode can also auto-focus but M mode still MF
.
Mikey2000
10 months ago |If it is a camcorder, why the 29:59 recording limit?
grizzler
10 months ago |hmmmm…good question mike!!!
VG20
10 months ago |The time limit is a restriction from EU, if you push the limit or put no limit, you have to pay a 14% of extra taxe… you want to pay more your camera ?
Matt
10 months ago |That is his point though, in a VIDEO CAMERA there usually isn’t this limit, extra tax or no.
Sahaja
10 months ago |Yes I have never seen this recording time limit on a video cam.
If a stills cam can record video longer than that then it gets classified as a video cam – which attracts a higher rate of duty. However, if something is a video cam in the first place, there seems no reason to have this limit.
Matt
10 months ago |I’m not sure these specs are correct, but they are definitely for an SLT if they are correct.
SLT is the only Sony camera that so far as I know has an AF issue at faster than f3.5
SLT is the only Sony camera that will only allow complete manual control when used with manual focus
Stills cameras have the 29:59 time limit to avoid additional taxes in the EU as being a ‘video camera’, the higher fps modes would have less than this
There is no way any high end video camera would have ANY of these restrictions (although if it is E-Mount and using the LA-EA2 with A mount lenses the first two might apply, but that is not a function of the camera).
E
10 months ago |if #4 is correct,
4) center focus all the lens can use the biggest Aperture. others still F3.5
Then it is an SLT …
Matt
10 months ago |It is probably fairly important to note that video cameras don’t usually have PASM modes. NEX cams being somewhat of an exception.
E
10 months ago |true
emopunk
10 months ago |Holy shit, when does this A99 arrive?
NEXfive
10 months ago |OMG always these boring A99 news – please, more info about NEX-5R, 6 & lenses or at least Full Frame Hybrid
Yong
10 months ago |4) center focus all the lens can use the biggest Aperture. others still F3.5
i don’t understand this. Any kind soul care to explain?
Matt
10 months ago |Current SLTs will only AF down to f3.5, any larger aperture than that you are in MF only territory. This is saying you will get AF at larger apertures, but only with the centre point of the AF system.
grizzler
10 months ago |Its a limitation of the SLT design. In all SLTs so far, for video PDAF to work they require the aperture set to F3.5 or max aperture of the lens…whichever is smaller. i.e an F1.4 lens gets automatically stopped down to F3.5 for video PDAF, but an F4 lens will operate wide open…at f4. This limits your minimum DoF and low light capabilities if using very fast lenses (F2.8 or faster).
I looks like for the centre AF point this limit is removed, you can use your 50 F1.4 lens wide open, enjoy the shallow DoF and low light capabilities while still maintaining PDAF. For all other AF points the F3.5 limitation still stands.
hope this helps
Yong
10 months ago |Oooo ! thanks !
does this apply to still as well?
grizzler
10 months ago |It does for very high frame rate continuous AF modes (10/12 per second), but for normal single shot/3fps/8fps modes it doesn’t those modes have no limitation. FWIW I shoot 10/12 fps alot and i’ve never found it to be a problem.
Rick
10 months ago |These specs look more like an XDCAM camcorder – perhaps the successor to the EX3?
poke
10 months ago |Now that we heard what it is not, maybe we can get some more info on any new rumors of what it is. We are approaching upon 2 months from rumored release, I thought we would be getting some reports of actual performance and images from this 24Mpix FF. I believe we only got a small blurb from one source on the images produced from said sensor. I look forward to the release of this camera.
grizzler
10 months ago |Same here, I would also like to know whats in the rumored A77 firmware update.
pancanikonpus
10 months ago |Fantastic Slomo FHD and HD
awesome!
mc229
10 months ago |I just got my d800 and although I miss the steady shot and my amazing minolta glass, I could not justify waiting any longer… how ridiculous that it takes them so long. I was waiting for new firmware so I could write to both cards in my a900, never happened…
All the rumors seem too good to be true……
Beachrider
10 months ago |Au revoir…
Matt
10 months ago |I dont get it ! if you want a DSLR go and buy a DSLR, if you want camcorder then go and buy one, if you are happy with your iPhone, why you need any of that?
meaning the A99 seems to focus on the video only, and nothing much said about its photographic capabilities. it sounds like we will end up with one device that will do both tasks and then use android or IOS with a sim card to make it an iphone with exchangeable lenses !
grizzler
10 months ago |Ask yourself what photographic features you can think of which aren’t already on an SLT and would grab headlines…I doubt you can think of many. Apart from adding more AF points the A77 feature set is about where photography peaks out for now, there isn’t much it cant do. In DSLR video there is still headroom to play with, we dont have mainstream 4K, 50mpbs, 4:2:2 or greater so plenty of places to grab the headlines, hence the emphasis.
I’m sure that nearer the time we’ll see more impressions of the photography side from testers etc and finally find out if they’ve jazzed up the jpegs and made the AF scarily fast.
grizzler
10 months ago |ok 14 bit image depth isn’t on any sony cams yet, that one I forgot.
John Thomas
10 months ago |I assume you mean on consumer and lower-end pro products (like FS700 and down), right?
Sony HDC2000, HDC2500 cameras, etc use 14 bit and have for a while. I believe the F65 also does
grizzler
10 months ago |I was referring to DSLTs/DSLRs
Sahaja
10 months ago |Well an OVF on an SLT would grab the headlines. Unfortunately it probably can’t be done.
kingrenas
10 months ago |Its says there A95.
Matt
10 months ago |A95 or A99 they are both ranked as SLT (DSLR 3 years ago!) not a camcorders.
I am sure if they add wifi, sim card and android they will get huge interest
kingrenas
10 months ago |Nikon Coolpix S800c comes with Android.
CTPhotographX.com
10 months ago |No AF in M mode? Did I read that correctly?
Steve
10 months ago |No auto focus (AF) in manual focus mode (M)?
That sounds correct
Steve
10 months ago |I know that translating is tricky but I’m sure the translation is correct about the product names a95 and a99 and the rumor is that a delay is possible because of a problem.
Am I reading this correctly?
So, could it be true that the rumored September camera is an a95 and not an a99?
And is it possible that the September’s a95 will be delayed?
Matt
10 months ago |I think all that ‘Matt’s in here should agree to change names on SAR
Matt
10 months ago |Or we can all just join in on the fun, even when our avatars give away hints.
Matthew
10 months ago |I think all comments signed “Matt” are written by the same person, and he is not quite the full shilling.
Matt
10 months ago |I think there are at least 3… Probably more.
And hey! I take offence to that
MAtthew
10 months ago |There is one Matt writing pseudo tech stuff and he is obviously clueless but very pompous, so I take it it’s not you
Jurka
10 months ago |Two months earlier i saw new Sony FF prototype. It was a SQUARE sensor.
Your rumors cost nothing, if that simple thing nobody of rumor sources can tell.
saiman
10 months ago |Sadly… all this confusing rumors about A99 spec translate to one thing: “A99 is no where near completion and will not be released in 2012.”
I know… this sucks.