Well done Sony! What’s next?
Good Morning dear SAR readers!
I am now recovering a bit from the two very busy days and weeks I had before the A77 announcement. It’s a bit to early to for me to talk about the new products. I still had no chance to get my hands on the new cameras and lenses and from what I have seen on the web it’s difficult to judge the quality from the cameras and lenses (Example: image samples have been taken with non final firmware version).
Yes it took long to see an A700 successor, yes it’s difficult to get in love with the EVF (electronic viewfinders) way of shooting when you are used to work with OVF (optical viewfinders). Yes the price is higher than we hoped it would be and there are also many other smaller things I necessarily do not like. But I think Sony made an overall very good job! The A77 is a bomb of a camera and I will definitely buy the NEX-7 (which I will buy) which in my opinion is a unique camera! Actually I think they are leading the whole photography world into a new direction, something Nikon and Canon aren’t doing yet!
I had a lot of talk with my sources in these days. They all do confirm that Sony will focus on the still&video experience, they are aware that NEX users need pancake lenses, they are aware that we need video optimized lenses (by the way Sony, take a look at the new X video lenses from Panasonic!), and least but not last ALL, I repeat ALL(!) sources do confirm Sony has a very busy and amazing fullframe roadmap! It will take some time before we see the new A99 and other full frame cameras. Sony wants to see if the A77 will be accepted well by the market and if there are some flaws to address.
So what’s next?
Actually I believe more lenses will be announced in a couple of months and I do expect Sony to make some major announcement right before the CES event in early January. I have been told that Sony is also working on a new type of cameras. But that is a surprise I will keep up for you later 
So this was just to say, that there will not a be a lot of time to rest here on SonyAlphaRumors!
See you soon! And thanks for your help in these days and weeks!!!
Andrea
EvanZ
2 years ago |What’s next? Hopefully, a fast portrait prime for the NEX system. My preference would be a 70 mm F/2.0. I’d also like to see a non-pancake fast 16 mm F/1.8. Basically, I want Sony to copy a page from Oly’s book and make a couple of fast primes like those beautiful M.Zuikos that came out recently. I’m really on the fence right now between the NEX and MFT systems. If I knew Sony was going to put out some nice glass, it would push me towards the NEX.
GH
2 years ago |Man, how many places can you mention this? Just put on the 50/1.8, and take a step forward, or buy one of the million manual lenses out there.
EvanZ
2 years ago |Those are not good solutions. Taking a step or two forward towards a subject is often just enough to lose a candid pose. You don’t want to crowd the subject. Also, the farther you get away from 105, the less flattering. There are very few reasonably priced (<$400) and fast (<F2.5) manual focus 70-75 mm lenses from other manufacturers. Add the price and inconvenience of an adapter (which you then have to remove every time you want to switch back to an E-mount lens), well, I'm not sure how you could be satisfied with that approach.
hiepphotog
2 years ago |Evan,
I don’t know if you have ever used adapted lenses, but it is just as convenience mounting and dismounting (you can dismount the whole lens+adapter) as native lens. Of course, there is no AF to speak of, except maybe the Alpha lenses + new adapter. From what I see, people got the NEX for adapting legacy lenses, while going with native lens choice, m43 is better at the moment. I used to have a m43 cam, but it’s no where near my A900 (low iso to high iso). So the new APS-C NEX is the right move for me.
As for focal, using prime is a constraint already. A 70 would not always be the ideal focal length for all situation, and you’ll be required to zoom with your feet. I have seen plenty good portraits using “non-flattering” FL (i.e. 35, 24, 50). So either you get into NEX and make do with what you have right now, or you have to go with others. There is no point of demanding something that will not be available in the foreseeable future.
EvanZ
2 years ago |“There is no point of demanding something that will not be available in the foreseeable future.”
Well, the point is to make the company listen. Olympus finally released two high-quality fast primes after years of people asking for it. And my guess is those two m.zuiko lenses will be among the most desirable in the m43 system.
Carl
2 years ago |Panasonic and Olympus don’t make an 105mm equivalent either. The closest they do is a 90mm equivalent.
ronnbot
2 years ago |50mm, or 75mm equiv., is not long enough; many prefer 85+mm (on FF) for portraits. So, a native 60/2 (or faster) would be ideal.
Don’t get me wrong, I have way more manual lenses (C-Mounts, Minolta MD, Canon FD, etc.) than the 4 native m43 lenses I own but I use the native ones way more. Now that the M.Zuiko 45/1.8 is out and the early samples look damn good, it would replace my legacy 50/1.4 for portraits.
Zstan
2 years ago |500F4!!!!! Get that beast released already!
RDoe
2 years ago |Is there any information one timeline in the roadmap of FF. I guess my A900 will last another year, but hoped to see a replacement half way next year. Any longer and I guess you will lose FF user to canon and nikon I guess.
admin
2 years ago |I will tell more about the FF roadmap as soon as I can! But you know when Photokina takes place or not?
Carl
2 years ago |18th September 2012.
admin
2 years ago |Carl
2 years ago |What do I win?
admin
2 years ago |A bottle of wine when you come to visit me!
Carl
2 years ago |So party at your place, then?
admin
2 years ago |Yeah! I am quite in a nice place in the middle of the dolomites!
Cake
2 years ago |and please sony don’t forget “first generation users” of Nex-5 / Nex-3 who start with this system
Lofote
2 years ago |They don’t: there will be another firmware update, that will add support for the LA-EA2! Super-fast Phase AF and motor driven AF for old lensesm, yeah!
Raul S.
2 years ago |My SAL75300 will see light again with the LA-EA2 if they enable it to NEX-5 =)
Frosti7
2 years ago |“they are aware that NEX users need pancake lense”
I beg to differ, i dont know who are your sources, but there is only single pancake lens, and not a hint for a pancake in 2012 roadmap
and the answer i’ve recived from paul in yesterdays Q&A was:
“e-mount is open standard, so others will produce pancakes”
David
2 years ago |lol, no that isn’t what he said.
He said that Sony *will* make them, but they have been trying to make more good quality popular focal lengths first.
He said that 3rd parties will make pancakes too, but Sony are also working on it. It’s the best of both worlds. Just be patient.
admin
2 years ago |Roadmaps can change Frosti
Carl
2 years ago |The 2012 designs are still part of the initial batch of nine lenses Sony created for the NEX system.
They created pretty much one of each kind of lens (pancake, compact zoom, superzoom, macro, large well corrected prime, long tele zoom, higher spec standard zoom), which suggests to me they didn’t know who they were selling to, so just threw one of everything out there to see what stuck.
What matters at this point is not what is coming in ’12, for better or worse that’s already decided, but instead what Sony decides to make for their second batch of NEX lenses which will start appearing in ’13. It’s almost certain there’ll be pancakes in their second batch given the amount of people asking for them.
acolyte
2 years ago |Good analysis! I didn’t even realize that Sony just threw one of each. But that’s a not bad strategy, however much people want to complain.
I wonder if the Canikon fanboys complain as much to Canikon. Are they really satisfied?
AlphaSd
2 years ago |What about 500 F4??
admin
2 years ago |Coming within the next few months!
Kalpurush :)
2 years ago |Many thanks Andrea for doing a fantastic job with all the great SARs. It was full of excitements (the last few days)!!!
Dr. Tom
2 years ago |+1
contraspirit
2 years ago |“But I think Sony made an overall very good job!”
I think, Sony Alpha Rumors has also done some job. Not bad, not bad at all))
Samuel
2 years ago |Good work, Andrea! Many thanks for your hard work.
Chris
2 years ago |will there, by any chance, a FF NEX..?? o.O
admin
2 years ago |Don’t want to answer that otherwise Leica will close tomorrow
Carl
2 years ago |Leica and Cosina are probably the biggest beneficiaries of the NEX system. Leica can’t make lenses fast enough.
admin
2 years ago |Fully agree!
matgay
2 years ago |sony should make a medium/large format NEX just for bragging rights. might take out mamiya, phaseone, hassels too. adapters can use all their lenses.
Alf Bundy
2 years ago |No.
While you could fit a 24x36mm sensor within the diameter of the E-mount, the bottom of the sensor would touch the electrical contacts.
And don’t forget that Sony is already struggling to have good corners and small lenses because of the very short registration distance.
So, let’s make it clear once and for all : no full frame in E-mount, never !
Anonymous
2 years ago |I wouldn’t say never. I’m sure in 10 years they will release a FF e-mount camera.
Jennzhen
2 years ago |IMHO FF mirrorless will come sooner than that, but maybe not e-mount.
Carl
2 years ago |Leica is working on a mirrorless camera, so maybe them. They don’t mind making a camera that costs thousands.
Bazis007
2 years ago |Andrea, Thanks for your work!
ben
2 years ago |Good Job Andrea!! SARS gave me quite a high! I’m also gettting a Nex 7 it looks like the best platform to use my M mounts lenses. I was using the 50 1.5 sonnar + Nex 3 at 12500 iso to shoot in pit black bars and streets.
ANy news of the shutter sound? will it be softer ?
Terryfried
2 years ago |Any chance of a telephoto partner for the 16-50/2.8 ?
admin
2 years ago |Yeah!
Terryfried
2 years ago |Any idea when? I need somthing before xmas. I will get a cheep sigma 50-200 as a steping stone, if its worth waiting for.
emopunk
2 years ago |Don’t tell me it’s a weather sealed 70-200 f4, ’cause I could faint!!
Jennzhen
2 years ago |Why?
I want one!
DT 70-200/300/400 F4 SSM, with price below $1000 (since it’s DT). Possible?
emopunk
2 years ago |Indeed I meant that I want it too, altough I prefer all these lenses to be FF..
Jennzhen
2 years ago |FF one will be together with DSLT FF I suppose, or slightly later.
Carl
2 years ago |Is the 70-300 SSM too slow for you?
Terryfried
2 years ago |With diffraction on a 24MP chip you want lenses optimum at F5.6 not max f5.6 so f2.8-F4 lenses are best and by making them APS-C they can be smaller lighter and more affordable. I would be willing to pay around the price of 70-300G but would like something optimized for A77 with 16-50/f2.8. Say something like 50-200 or 60-250 possibly f2.8-4 or perhaps fixed at 3.5 or 4.
Stewe
2 years ago |Assuming of test on ir i’d rather buy tamron 17-50/2.8 than new 16-50/2.8 ssm
KingRenas
2 years ago |Well a NEX-9 a full frame one by next year will change a lot of people minds. Whatever you love most Nikon or Canon I can see them buying an extra camera specially a Sony NEX-7 model because they can start to see some potential on it.
In most of the sites I can see people questioning Canon and Nikon to make a response to Sony, for me Sony is starting to shake the market even you like or not their products.
One thing I don’t like is in UK we always will have the prices much higher than anyone else which for me and for many is unfair.
Good job Sony and keep it up.
RDoe
2 years ago |That I will buy! In addition to an A99
John Sison
2 years ago |You did a great job with the rumors Andrea! There was a new rumor pretty much everyday within the last month!
By the way I’ll be going to a little event where I can try these cameras out again.. anyone have any questions you think i should ask them?
FullFrame NEX (24x36)!
2 years ago |Thank you, Andrea!
Your work on this page is greatly appreciated.
I hope Sony is working on a FullFrame E Mount NEX.
Someone posted on the Zeiss 24mm Sonnar that the back of the lens indicates where Sony is heading with the NEX line. Any thoughts on that?
Any word on the two new 50mm’s? The 1.2 with the concave element sounds awesome!
Sony has my camera money for this year, it sounds like next year, too!
Cyrus
2 years ago |5cent question:
Is it possible to create a Nex FF with similar today lenses
Just by moving the sensor back (increasing flange back distance) in the FF model?
Or this is just impossible?
Carl
2 years ago |Short answer: no.
If you moved the sensor, you would either not be able to reach infinity focus, or would lose your ability to focus close.
The only way to do what you want is to add some relay optics (difficult to do with only 18mm to work with) that would behave like a wide converter. However, you’d gain nothing from doing so, as the circle of confusion would still be the same size afterwards, so depth of field would be the same. You might have a slight IQ gain from the larger sensor (more DR and slightly lower noise), but that would likely be offset by the image quality degradation from the relay optics. So basically a pointless exercise.
michel v
2 years ago |Yes, that’s called the A900.
Steve Jones
2 years ago |The lens register has nothing to do with whether the mount can support FF or not. It’s primarily the throat diameter, and as that’s slightly larger than the Leica M mount it should be theoretically possible. The short register can be a problem with edge performance on short focal length lenses due to the acute angle of incidence at the edge (the Leica M9 has problems there), but the effects can be reduced through a mixture of firmware and sensor design. Alternatively, retrofocal wide-angle designs can be used (as DSLRs must) at the expense of increasing the lens length. From what I can see it looks likely the Zeiss is a retrofocal design (which simply means the focal length of the rear element is longer than the nominal focal length which places it further from the sensor – the front elements have to have a correspondingly shorter focal length to compensate.
I have overlaid an FF-sized sensor onto a photo of an NEX and it just fits without infringing the space for the electronic contacts. There’s less than a millimetre clearance at the corners.
Whether Sony will ever do this is unclear – there are some very well-heeled Leica M9 owners who’d pay a premium for such a camera to support their lenses. However, doing the engineering for a small market will be expensive.
Jojo
2 years ago |Possible, yes. But disastrously confusing. You would now have two incompatible systems with the same lens mount. You would end up with lenses that could be fitted to the wrong camera and be unusable = either not able to focus at all, or only close focussing.
SLTPro
2 years ago |Still waiting to see what this thing can do when the RAW converters get their act together and I can actually get one in my hands. I think I’ll probably hang onto one of my a55′s and get an a77 when they’re released and then hope the FF cameras hurry up! I know one thing,
SONY IF YOU READ THIS: If you could only employ a pixel binning system option in the future, maybe through a firmware update (like is being talked about with the D400) to give us say 8-12MP with great high ISO then you would have an absolute monster. The option of being able to shoot 100-400 ISO at a beautifully detailed 24MP (My Zeiss’s will rock at this resolution!) and then have 800+ ISO with super low noise at 8-12MP would be priceless for us pro’s…PLEASE SONY DO THIS AND A LOT IF THE IQ DOUBTS ABOUT THE A77 will be irrelevant for the real photographers and not the PixelPeepers!
admin
2 years ago |+1
emopunk
2 years ago |Let’s put it like this: if Nikon does it, and Sony doesn’t, then there will be a reason big like a house to say that D400 will probably be a better tool for pure photgraphers. Video is another story but then I don’t care about video..
SonyA77
2 years ago |The D400 will be a better tool by default and that’s nothing to do with having binning or not. The D400 will have superior high ISO performance for a start, however it’ll also have a higher price tag.
emopunk
2 years ago |I don’t think buyers of such cameras get scared of some hundred dollars difference. They simply buy what gives better pictures output.
Gabriel
2 years ago |The best camera is a Nikon with Sony Sensors and Zeiss lenses
Pixels binning exists on P&S camera but currently not give good results.
And why not an open firmware ? That’s a revolution, for sure.
Or a modular firmware, where you can had modules, like new effects for instance, or reorganize menu the way you want.
On my phone, i’m just added a photo HDR application, same hardware, new functions, why i can’t do the same thing on my DSLR ?
SLTPro
2 years ago |Not necessarily, I think we need to wait to see what the raw output will be like before making sweeping statements like that. I know historically Nikon has a history of squeezing more juice out of the Sony sensors but I have a feeling Sony might have finally learnt something about this!
SonyA77
2 years ago |@SLTPro, using the same sensor, a Sony dSLT will never give better high ISO than an Nikon dSLR.
SonyA77
2 years ago |@emopunk, yup people looking at the higher cost D400 will not consider for one second a Sony dSLT. Completely different market and a completely different type of user.
I have always said here that the A77 is a competitor to the D7000 class of camera and should have a price to compete with it, not the future D400. The A65 is comparable to the D5100/600D.
People here disagreed, yet the reviews are now making the comparison that I did to the D7000. I’ll say, yet again, that the A77 costs too much and D7000 sales will continue to kill large volume A77 sales.
David
2 years ago |Yeah, this would be an absolutely amazing feature!
EvanZ
2 years ago |At 2×2 binning (the easiest/fastest to implement), the resolution would go down to 6 MP, which probably is too low for most tastes. 1.5 x 1.5 binning would give 10.6 MP, which is an ok resolution, but would require interpolation.
Froo
2 years ago |Also, this function could easily be added to RAW converters instead, which would make more sense methinks.
nopt
2 years ago |I think the greatest benefit would be that you’d end up with smaller, more manageable RAW files to begin with. I could be wrong, but I don’t believe that having the sensor down-sample the image would produce much better IQ that doing it yourself in post.
And once again, keep up the great work Andrea! :>
Robby Ticknor
2 years ago |+1
lhkjacky
2 years ago |+1 Pixel Binning
Steve Jones
2 years ago |I can’t see any point in pixel binning when the same thing can be done better by post-processing RAW files as more compute power is available. Of course it could also been done in camera to produce JPEGs, but I see no reason to do it for RAW.
SPimenta
2 years ago |Hi Admin!
Do you have any info about the 3rd party E-Mount lenses? Sigma, etc…? Please do some research, before I thinking which one E-Mount lens I will buy.
Thanks!
admin
2 years ago |I have no Sigma source. But I think the first lens will come in September!
Eric
2 years ago |Great news that they’ve heard our cries for pancake lenses. That eases my mind enough to go ahead and order a NEX-7. I can just use Voigtlander glass until they arrive. Is there an estimate of when we might be able to expect something like a 28mm f/2 pancake?
Carl
2 years ago |So far most of the NEX primes have been slower than that. Would you still buy one if it was, say, f2.8?
seb
2 years ago |“(by the way Sony, take a look at the new X video lenses from Panasonic!)”
I’m still wondering why a powerzoom is supposed to be a “video” thing. A part from making your video look like a cctv recording or a nineties family video i don’t get the point.
Or maybe it’s the “full hd” (?) sticker on it ?
Steve Jones
2 years ago |Power zooms are generally preferred for video largely because it’s very difficult to perform a completely smooth zoom action manually – the eye is very good at picking up uneven zoom actions. A video power-zoom will also provide for speed control for the action. Of course if you only zoom between, rather than within, shots it’s not an issue.
Chris
2 years ago |the price of NEX 7 with lens kit is just too high for me..think twice to buy it in near future..maybe in 2012..
..unexpected price.. 
Raul S.
2 years ago |unreal expectations…you get the same 24MP, EVF as A77 and more manual controls, all that in a smaller, solid built body…NEX-7 is a premium product for people requesting something more aimed towards enthusiast. If not happy with that price, go for NEX-5N.
Chris
2 years ago |lol..it’s true that after think about it again..it’s kinda worth it though..but i expect it could be around $1200 with lens kit..plus $200 still makes me shaking..
no..i will prefer to save my money for NEX 7 than NEX 5N since NEX 7 could last longer than 5N..with universal hotshoe, EVF and same sensor as a77..no doubt..!
ronnbot
2 years ago |Instead of nex5n, y not consider the pany g3, lol? It has evf, swivel lcd, builtin popup flash, hotshoe and etc. W/ the extra money, u can get another lens, like panyleica 25/1.4 or 20/1.7 pancake. but I guess m43 is not even an option?
Nikko
2 years ago |All the new cameras looking really awesome. Only wish there was a cross between a NEX7 and the A77
admin
2 years ago |Nikko, you should keep faith
Jennzhen
2 years ago |FF mirrorless with alpha-mount?
Pascal645
2 years ago |Oh now you’ve dropped a brick !! Can you say/hint/subliminate more about this?
Please?
kevin2i
2 years ago |NO!
FF needs a mount capable mounting Leica glass.
No Leica? No Lika.
Carl
2 years ago |Leica R mount lenses?
Some of them are outstanding. Te rest were made by Minolta.
BrickYang
2 years ago |I take these vedios of A77 from the events
1. shutter of continuous mode(12fps)
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjk4MzQyNjQ0.html
2. fast select focus point
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjk4MzQ2NzA4.html
3. the AF is so fast!
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjk4MzQ3OTY4.html
SonyA77
2 years ago |Video only work in China. Use Youtube.
BrickYang
2 years ago |Youtube comes
1. shutter of continuous mode(12fps)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7iaudm3MIg
2. fast select focus point
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=301U9U3YdoY
3. the AF is so fast!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08QOBoxQrig
Raul S.
2 years ago |Wow..that’s really fast (both AF and fps ability…)
SonyA77
2 years ago |Thanks for Youtube.
Gabriel
2 years ago |I’m in France, and those video works. No need to go to china, just came here in Paris (great place to take photo too, nice girls, amazing food
brizmako
2 years ago |Those links work fine here in Australia, too
A77 is faster than a fat kid on a Mars bar. Sweet!
JC
2 years ago |Cheers for ANDREA! You have done a very good work here, I am following this site every day in the last few months and i will surely buy the A65 (A77 to expensive for me)
CHEERS FOR ANDREA!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_E2sealIWdf8/TRDP5BwMGKI/AAAAAAAAAA4/nM3WjBgjuxU/s1600/01-CHEERS.jpg
=D
Terryfried
2 years ago |for those woried about A77 batary life see the following.
http://www.product-reviews.net/2011/08/24/impressive-sony-alpha-a77-review-850-shots-per-charge/
march
2 years ago |i wish the final firmware will improve the ISO control, ISO 3200 still not do well as pre-news..
SonyA77
2 years ago |Use RAW
Jiri
2 years ago |Though you have heard it many times already: Andrea – thanks a lot for your effort! I am going to get a NEX-7 as soon as it appears in my country. The only thing that I am wondering about is the hesitation of Sony to bring this camera on the market. Why November? Any technical problems? … Well, I don´t hurry.
Don Cox
2 years ago |The problem with most modern products is that they are both hardware and software. Usually the hardware is finished, and can be shown, but there is then a big effort to code the software (firmware).
This can take months, and it is very hard to predict exactly how long. So don’t be surprised that the NEX-7 isn’t ready for sale yet.
Vinci
2 years ago |Thanks Andrea for all the rumours that you have posted over here. Looking forward to some new ones going forward. Particularly the 500 f4 given that we have the camera to use it.
stresskiller
2 years ago |next camera with thetered shooting and remote control options by either usb 3.0 or wi-fi.
still can’t believe they dropped that future on the succesor of the a700.
would be nice to see that option on yje nex 7 as well for that ridiculous price.
Jennzhen
2 years ago |Do you have to mention this in every post?
stresskiller
2 years ago |according to some people you need to shout a lot before people listen
Carl
2 years ago |If you want to shout you need to type in ALL CAPS, and use thirty emoticons per post.
stresskiller
2 years ago |DN’T THINK PEOPLE WOULD LIKE THAT DO YOU ?
sergio
2 years ago |Andrea: It is true that the pictures published by DPReview have been developed with firmware version .58 and not 1?
CRYO
2 years ago |A bit disappointed that the final NEX-7 don’t have touch screen like NEX-5N, the 3 wheel is big plus for full manual control on parameters, but a touch screen can provide very fast and useful touch to focus function that wheels and buttons can never do, and also fast and easy parameters switching if the touch menu can be customized… now seems a full gear 5N is a better choice over 7, if don’t need the extra pixels?
Gabriel
2 years ago |yes, i miss a touch screen too. On my dsrl i’m sometime touch the lcd trying to change some parameter, like if it was my phone
Am i the only one who did this ?
jarrett
2 years ago |What about the rumor on the eoshd.com site about the manual controls in the 5N video modes? The article is called “5N – video dark horse?” or something like that. If this is true, Sony is going to grab a lot of market share in that price segment.
Pacman
2 years ago |I read many complains before of NEX-7 having a big lens. but I haven’t seen them now? just wondering…
Andrea, you must be rewarded by sony of NEX-7 for a job well done! keep it up!
HB
2 years ago |Hi,
I think finallly Sony left the dark side of the force.
A77 is a bit pricy, and as expected have few problems with hight ISO, but i think this camera will shake the market.
NEX7 whith the new E to A mouth adapter wil be revolutionary. This adapter will give a new prespective to the NEX system. The best of the both worlds.
I loved every moment with my A100, but is time to go for the new A77 (finally).
In the future hope sony don’t forget us again… and return for the dark side…
For the aps users I think Sony needs a 10-20mm range lenses and forget the old 11-16mm.
It’s also important to restyle some lenses for the new EVIL cameras.
Now let’s see what Sony will give for the professionals
Last but not least, I whant to,once again, thanks Andrea for the marvelous work.
Greetings from Portugal
sonystudio
2 years ago |can anybody confirm the leaf shutter in the 24mm zeiss lens?
Andrew
2 years ago |+1 +1 +1 +1 +1!!!!!
I have already pre-ordered the nex7 and zeiss 24/1.8. I’m sure I will love it when it arrives. However, in the mean time, I would love to know more about the possible leaf shutter…or just about the standard nex-7 shutter in general. I am really hoping the shutter is quiet.
Also, thank you Andrea for a job well done!
DKNL
2 years ago |Thanks Andrea, for all the work you did! You kept the spirit alive for most of us, I’m sure!
And I agree, the A77 is a bomb of a camera. We’ll see how Canikon will react, but both companies (and others) will fight back, I’m sure.
I like the route Sony is heading. Camera’s are getting more and more electronic, and I believe that Sony is the right company to point other companies the right route. They are capable making big changes. Like they did just now.
I’m waiting for FF as a replacement for my A700 and A850. But boy, I’m excited.
Keep up the good work! And thanks again!
Greetings from Holland.
JB
2 years ago |Admin,
Thanks for your hard work.
Any new Alpha lens news?
CZ 50mmF1.2? A new 35mmF1.4?
We need new alpha glass.
admin
2 years ago |Yes. Will post this soon!
emopunk
2 years ago |OMG, so much stuff!!
If they come out with Zeiss 35mm f1.4 I could even buy it to couple with A77. But please Sony: make it SSM and weather sealed and we’re ready to go!!
Stewe
2 years ago |How soon? In september?
Raul S.
2 years ago |heeeeyyy now that you mention it…I remember hearing (actually reading) some rumor about new A-mount lenses…about 4 or 5 of them…Are they coming for sure?
admin
2 years ago |Yes. Thea roamdpa has been delayed because of the Japan desaster. But they are coming. WIll write about them soon.
Carl
2 years ago |The natives will get restless if you take too long~
pancanikonpus
2 years ago |admin,
what u mean new camera?
admin
2 years ago |A new “kind” of camera!
emopunk
2 years ago |Admin, little hint for us.. CZ standard FL (50 and 35) on the way?
Stewe
2 years ago |Give me a clue.
SonyA77
2 years ago |Mirror-less dSLR sized A-mount camera.
Carl
2 years ago |DSLR sized is likely a misnomer. I’d imagine if Sony went ahead with such a camera it would be appreciably smaller than an A33. Otherwise, there’d be little point.
KingRenas
2 years ago |At the moment I couldn’t see in any site pictures taken with NEX-7 and most of the tests with all cameras are taken with pre-production cameras, doesn’t have the final firmware version or one or two things missing.
Well i never mention but I will do like to say thank you Andrea for your hard work in keeping all the folks updated with news, not just for desktop but as well the easy reading mobile version which I always check on my Galaxy S2.
Thank you very much.
RubyStone
2 years ago |According to what I know, there’s only one NEX7 that can work while many more A77 for preview.
So just wait for a while and prepare money.
KingRenas
2 years ago |Yes that is true, I will need a few months to get that money for the camera plus the accessories for the camera too. A HVL-F43AM Flash is on my list, I want to see what kind of lenses Sigma will bring to Sony NEX since now there is a pro version model.
Federico
2 years ago |Hey, is there anyone out there that is disappointed with a77 jpegs files? I was seriously interested in buyin the new nex 7 but it shares the same sensor so now I’m a bit scared…
Stewe
2 years ago |All the jpegs are made from sony’s converter, not ACR, that’s why everytime sony introduce new camera normal people are waiting for images converted in ACR, other’s are start to scream about noise and other stuff.
Federico
2 years ago |So why nex 5n jpegs look great and nex7 jpegs look awful? (Same site and same conversion I suppose)
Terryfried
2 years ago |firmware is not final version. So jpg conversion needs optimising for sensor still but nex-5n sencor is similar to A35 so its probably already been optimised.
Stewe
2 years ago |Not the same. Stop guessing and wait ACR update.
Federico
2 years ago |I’ll wait and hope…
SonyA77
2 years ago |Sony’s converter is very good since 3.2 you might want to try it instead of assuming ACR is better.
JesperMP
2 years ago |You rich people can have your FF NEX-9, but how about a NEX-6 for us less well-heeled photogs ?
I am really not totally happy with NEX-3 and NEX-5.
I’d like to have the somewhat beefier body and the controls of the NEX-7.
And an EVF in the same location as the on the NEX-7, but with the resolution of the A55′s EVF.
Maybe plastic body instead of magnesium.
Maybe drop weathersealing.
Maybe 16Mpix sensor in stead of 24Mpix.
And then a new affordable (!) f1.8 24mm lens as “kit lens”.
Terryfried
2 years ago |So what you want is nex-5N with Nex-7 controls instead of touch screen. not going to happen. they won’t bring out more than 1 version of a camera for the same market section(apart from different colours.)
JesperMP
2 years ago |I am afraid you are right.
But when I see the NEX-7 I see a much more desirable camera style than NEX-3/5.
NEX-3/5 are over-minituarised. Not enough grip. Too few direct controls. And I really want an EVF for a number of reasons.
Too bad that the NEX-7 costs more than twice as much as a NEX-5.
Terryfried
2 years ago |You could consder A35.
JesperMP
2 years ago |I actually do consider A35.
But since the question was asked, I allowed myself to dream of a great-yet-affordable mirrorless.
ShamB
2 years ago |Thanks Andrea for your coverage of the recent releases. This site has become one of my must-check links over the last few days!
Chris
2 years ago |wait..what..?? Is it true that NEX 7 doesnt use touch screen like NEX 5N doesss..????? O.O
CRYO
2 years ago |Yes, Sony jp already announced Nex 7 don’t have touch panel in their Nex cameras spec compare chart… Now only Nex 5N can do touch to focus…. Why they remove this on the higher end N7? Panny’s G all have touch screen from GF up to GH line….
CRYO
2 years ago |Yes, Sony jp already announced Nex 7 don’t have touch panel in their Nex cameras spec compare chart… Now only Nex 5N can do touch to focus…. Why they remove this on the higher end N7? Panny’s G all have touch scr..
CRYO
2 years ago |Yes, Sony jp already announced Nex 7 don’t have touch panel in their Nex cameras spec compare chart… Now only Nex 5N can do touch to focus…. Why they remove this on the higher end N7?
CRYO
2 years ago |Oops mobile version reply have bug? Successfully post reply but show post failed message to me?
Announced from sony JP
http://www.sony.jp/ichigan/pre_include/comparison/comparison_E.html
only 5N support touch panel
passer-by
2 years ago |I’m addicted to this site. Huhuhu
Walt
2 years ago |It is an error to say that some of us just prefer OVF because we are used to it or such like. If that was all it was I’d have no problem going to EVF, nor would many others that are sticking to OVF. But it’s not that, EVF has different characteristics as a viewfinder and those are not good for some types of shooting.
For instance, as one of many uses that could be described, you are out shooting wildflowers and there is a breeze. Once in a while for just a few milliseconds the flower will be still enough to capture, the rest of the time not. So, while looking through the viewfinder maintaining framing which is varying so you have to track it, you look for those moments and shoot when they occur. With EVF you will not see that the motion is stopping until the EVF lag has delayed the view. Often that EVF lag will be long enough that the cue it’s time to shoot will occur too late to be of any use. Meanwhile, if using a OVF camera instead your view is truly live and ontime, there is no viewfinder lag so you get the needed cue in time to make use of it.
And it’s not just wildflowers, any time you have subject motion that’s not entirely predictable you need your view to be on time to give you the best chance of anticipating and getting the shot. That involves much of my shooting that would be precluded or restricted by EVF.
Of course you still have your reaction time and the camera’s own shutter lag, which does limit just how short a event you can use as you have to decide and press the shutter before the time you want. EVF lag just adds more limitation.
Sony with the a77 claims to have shortened the shutter lag, which is a desirable improvement, but they have made no mention of EVF lag times, something that says they have not improved that over that of the a55, which I tested and found unacceptable for my shooting due to the EVF lag. If they had of improved EVF lag they would be crowing about it.
There are other assumptions about EVF that also are not so, but the EVF lag is the one I cannot get around, no matter how much I might wish it. Going EVF is reducing the range of what I can shoot, simple as that. Otherwise there is a lot that the a77 has that would lead me probably to buy it.
So, let’s quantify just what the EVF lag is. Nothing in any of these rumors has touched on this important issue. I know that the EVF lag will vary from shot to shot depending on lighting and other factors (the hardest to change will be the step of collecting enough photons to convert to electrons to process the image in the EVF, though the internal camera processing clock is limited too.)
Jimmy
2 years ago |I want to thank you Andrea for all your hard work and keeping us so well informed all this time. I also want to thank you for helping me wait for the NEX-5N which is the camera I really want, more than the NEX-5. Congrats!
Mike
2 years ago |I hope they make classic SLR I rally don`t like those SLT series because even if the resolution is very fine and AF faster it isn`t as good as good viewfinder like in A700
and Sony still keeps great LiveWiev mode