(SR5) NEX-5R and NEX-6 can be controlled in remote via Phone. NEX-6 has a 2359k dot image on viewfinder.
A NEX-6 rendering based on the leaked images by KTFturbo.
Remote control
The NEX-5R and NEX-6 can be controlled in remote via Phone. There should be an APP for Android phones (so for example for these Sony Xperia phones) that will give you full remote control of the NEX cameras. I don’t know yet if there will be an iPhone app too.
I also have two more news about the NEX-6:
1) the camera has a new 2359k dot image on viewfinder.
2) The Hot shoe is the same of the A99.
Announcement:
There was a bit of a confusion on the announcement date. This depends from the time zone. I know “think” the announcement will be made on August 29th in Japan. Hope to get a reliable hour soon. The NEX-5R only will be announced. The A99, NEX-6 and E-mount FF camcorder will be announced in mid September. Subscribe our RSS feed and Twitter stream and the Facebook comunity to not miss any hot news!
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Joe
9 months ago |Phone integration is interesting. I wonder if it is constrained to iPhone or Android, or if it will be open to any platform with certain capability.
Alfonso Cuitiño
9 months ago |If it’s programmed for Android, it’s very likely to be made available for every platform out there
Mizuki
9 months ago |i hope it is made for samsung galaxy s3, it is better than android and ios both
Spoon
9 months ago |An S3 is better than Android? Because… it *runs* Android?
Catalin
9 months ago |The Galaxy S3 uses Android…
Adam Maas
9 months ago |If it’s constrained, it will be Android-only as Sony is an Android vendor.
Pei
9 months ago |SONY is also a huge Apple OEM so unless they want to be dropped by Apple like Samsung and lose out $5 billion a year on business, they will make an iOS version.
Mike
9 months ago |Control will be probably via Bluetooth or WLAN. Both of which is easy to reverse engineer. Even if Sony does not release any other app, third parties soon will.
This allows interesting things such as timed exposures.
Boooe
9 months ago |Android is open enough. iOs is for faggots.
Clifton
9 months ago |control over wifi should be standard on most devices soon, I’m hoping for some really clever stuff on the A99…please.
Yong
9 months ago |2300+k dots… Is this the same like the A57?
Dudi
9 months ago |nope 57 has 1.4 k unfortunately ! :/
Wong
9 months ago |Seeing how both the viewfinder on the NEX-6 and NEX-7 have the same amount of dots, does that mean the viewfinder on the NEX-6 is better than the viewfinder on the NEX-7, since it’s an improved version?
If so, the NEX-6 is definitely going to be my new camera.
PC
9 months ago |I’m not sure, but if the NEX6 uses the same “Whitemagic” display tech as the RX100, the pixel resolution would be lower on the NEX6 as it uses 4 ‘dots’ to make up one pixel as opposed to the 3 with the more conventional EVF on the NEX7. This is of course pure speculation, thought I think the RX100′s screen has been great in bright sunlight, and I’m not sure if it will be of much use in an eye level EVF which blocks out light anyway
Andy
9 months ago |No, 2359k is 2359k dots. How the sub-pixels are arranged is mostly irrelevant, a Red/Green/Blue (RGB) pixel (or dot) is the same size as a Red/Green/Blue/White (RGBW or “WhiteMagic”) pixel. It’s just that RGBW has four sub-pixels per dot instead of the RGB three sub-pixels per dot. It’s the extra white sub-pixel that makes WhiteMagic perform well in direct sunlight.
The exception to this is if there is a “shared” sub-pixel, otherwise known as “pentile” (RGBG), then it gets a little more complicated on the “actual” resolution. This type of arrangement is most common in AMOLED screens.
Mike
9 months ago |A dot is not a pixel. A pixel is made of three (four) dots.
Andy
9 months ago |Damn, you’re right, a dot is a sub-pixel. My bad.
choco
9 months ago |Awesome! I am so gonna get NEX-6 and the new pancake as my travel camera (and D600 for my main camera).
Please make an app for iPhones and iPads too.
Olaf
9 months ago |Will the new nexes have gps? Or will the nex be able to get gps info from the phone and tag the photos?
p
9 months ago |angry nex7 owner here
Almazar80
9 months ago |Why an angry NEX 7 owner? The NEX 7 is one of the best cameras I’ve ever owned and while there are some features in the NEX 6 that are intriguing, the NEX 7 is still a very good camera. Progress is inevitable and if you can get more people to buy into the NEX ecosystem, it will result in more accessories and lenses, and cheaper prices in the long run.
shevko
9 months ago |Love the TRINAVI system!
REVENGE
9 months ago |Progress: mad?
matt
9 months ago |hmmm the fact they are calling it a 2359k dot rather than a 2.4MP OLED would suggest it might be a newer version of the phase sequential EVF of the lower end models? It would be awesome if it was the same unit from 7 etc, I really don’t like the phase sequential designs.
Maximus
9 months ago |the nex-7 EVF IS 2359k:
Viewfinder
• Eye-level fixed XGA OLED, 1.3 cm (0.5″ type) electronic viewfinder
• 2,359,296 dot resolution
• Magnification approx.1.09x
• 100% frame coverage
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonynex7/2
RVN
9 months ago |so, what the different with nex 6 in viewfinder resolution?
Rooru S.
9 months ago |maybe the difference between OLED and normal LCD
Brian T
9 months ago |We better get a firmware update for the nex7 for app support and remote shooting.
matt
9 months ago |app support may be possible, but with no wifi the remote functionality isn’t happening.
as the OS is already based on Linux there could be app support coming (sounds like nex isn’t going android thank god). maybe this is why things have been so quiet on the firmware front, they are releasing a whole new nex OS with lots of new stuff (especially app support or plug in support)?
Victor
9 months ago |Thank god? Could you tell us the sony phones that run ios? Apple fanboys are everywhere, even on camera sites. oh boy…
emopunk
9 months ago |Well well Andrea will remember that I predicted this thing weeks ago. I have a Sony Xperia P here waiting for it!
Chiimaero
9 months ago |NEX6 definitely sounds promising.
First, it was referenced as “Mini NEX7″. To me, it looks wayyy better
Can’t wait for rumors confirmation + market availability
Dee
9 months ago |but this NEX 6 still doesn’t have the Trinavi so I will wait for the NEX 7 replacement next year. I love that Trinavi and wouldn’t buy a mirrorless camera without it.
Chiimaero
9 months ago |Well, NEX6 has “Binavi+” (2 wheels + mode wheel) + touchscreen.
Overall, it should provide very solid controls, maybe better than NEX7 for some use cases (touch to focus?).
poke
9 months ago |Will sell 5n and get the 6 and 99. I love the 5n but it needs the integrated EVF. Hoping for their release sooner than later.
marcelobtp
9 months ago |What a mess, Sony!
They almost making us to buy many Nex camras because no one is the complete top of the line!
They don’t want to lose the customers then they are putting everything as a test. I hope the next iteration will be more organized.
Pei
9 months ago |NEX-7 is top of the line. 6 is newer so more features but if you can wait, 7G or the new NEX-FF will have all the features of less models.
lensporn.net
9 months ago |I was under the impression that the 6 had a lower resolution evf so I thought I would stick with my 5n and get the external evf but if the 6 has the same or nearly the same quality I might be swayed because the 16mp sensor is just fantastic and I would love to have it in a better body.
I wonder what the better all round evf experience would be between the 6 and the 5n with external evf?
I will wait a while longer before I decide but this is obviously as close as we will get to a 7 body with the 16mp sensor.
Sean
9 months ago |When Steve Jobs came back to Apple, one of the things he did early on was to scale back the plethora of different machine options because it was so confusing to end users. He ended up with a pro and consumer laptop (i.e., iBook and PowerBook) and a pro and consumer desktop (i.e., iMac and Power Macintosh). Sony is moving away from the Steve Jobs model. Granted, cameras are different, but we’re getting a 5R and 6 and 7 that have tremendous overlap where even the cheapest model has features that are not on the most expensive model (e.g., better handling of wider angle glass, touch screen). Every buyer is making compromises, most likely . . . and that just creates frustration.
Sean
9 months ago |FWIW, my response was supposed to be under Marcelobpt.
marcelobtp
9 months ago |Yes, frustration, even when i bought the nex 3 the first nex interation, until now i cant make a decision to where i should go, this nex 6 is very tempting but without the tri navy i just can’t buy it. I need the manual controls and the evf, i want the wifi and don’t understand why nex 7 does not have wifi. And now with this 16 mpx PDAF probably the ideal mpx size for me, 24 only on full frame…
Holy Bear
9 months ago |It is ok to complain if NEX6&7 were announced at the same time ,but NEX7 was announced a year ago. For 5R and 6 , I do agree with you.
Sony should just cancel the NEX3 and lower 5R’s price.
zanna
9 months ago |The Job model works for stupid consumers that are not able to decide.
That model works for apple because they sell a lot of products, not so much for the consumer that has few options.
I’m glad sony offers a lot of models, so I can choose the best model for me. I want to choose, I don’t want a company to choose for me.
Dulaney Ward
9 months ago |Sean, the Steve Jobs model for computers doesn’t translate well to cameras.
One More Thought
9 months ago |Why doesn’t the Steve Jobs model of not offering too many flavors apply to cameras?
People are still the same, and the fact is that with any product line, you can offer too many varieties…this just confuses the customers and leaves them feeling frustrated.
Thom Hogan has a great article today detailing how Nikon now has literally 75 models of Coolpix cameras out, priced at $15 increments. It’s crazy.
Sony in the past has been guilty of that too…I know, because in general I have always loved Sony products. But they always start a product line and then create far too many options. They did this with Walkman, Discman, cordless phones, camcorders, et al…
Pls Sony…do not overcomplicate your lineup.
VisX
9 months ago |Please don’t equate Apple users with NEX users. We are more sophisticated consumers. Also, the price levels of 5, 6 and 7 are separated by a few hundred dollars. It is very welcome to have a NEX 6.
I will start to get confused if there are tens of prefixes/series concatenated with meaningless numbers. For example, model S10, SX100, HX110, GX101, etc.
The NEX 5 series is getting a bit crowded now with 5, 5N, 5R, etc. Hope they can name the future ones better like 5-1, 5-2 or 5mk1, 5mk2. So at least I know which one is newer without looking up the specs.
Boooe
9 months ago |>The NEX 5 series is getting a bit crowded now with 5, 5N, 5R, etc. Hope they can name the future ones better like 5-1, 5-2 or 5mk1, 5mk2.
Yeah. Through, I think models named like 500, 501, 502 would be better.
Matt
9 months ago |I always love the current trend of Steve Jobs/ Apple experts because they have read a book
For what it is worth the NEX line also has a 2 x 2 structure if you want to compare, they have 2 EVF models and 2 non-EVF models. A consumer and a Pro version of each.
However I think you are confused as to how this structure worked, these were product categories, not single spec machines. For each model in this structure there were anywhere between 2 and 5 variants of differing specs within the same casing, right from the get go. It was purely a branding exercise so that all iMacs looked the same and they were for one purpose and all PowerMacs looked the same and they were for a different kind of user, same for notebooks. If we were to compare for Sony cameras it could be broken down as such: Cybershot, NEX, Alpha and Handicam.
Further to this, did you know that new technologies were often offered first in the consumer models? Such as the iBook being the first to offer an inbuilt airport card? Or that new design languages first came to consumer models such as the first gen iMac, which was then brought over to the PowerMac G3? Or the curved box design of the white iBooks and then later recreated for the Aluminium PowerBooks? Consumer machines were the first to be OS X only.
These things are often based on the markets who saw the need, so while WiFi was aimed at consumers so came on a consumer product, FireWire was first offered on their more ‘pro’ lines.
Lastly that model was designed for a company that was struggling, to streamline their operations and spending. Apple haven’t used that model for a long time.
How many complaints from ‘Pros’ do we get here that they don’t want wifi or touchscreen or any of that ‘shit’ on their cameras? Well the NEX-7 should suit them nicely shouldn’t it? Anyway, I think app support may be coming for the 7, I feel that is probably why they haven’t done much on that front, completely overhauled OS coming, but they want to make a big splash with it as a new product, rather than as a firmware update.
Weakling
9 months ago |Remote via phone and this is useful because …?
Yong
9 months ago |because someone dun need to buy remote? and because it might have timer function for timelapse?
Almazar80
9 months ago |The Alpha cameras (well, some of them anyway) have the connector for external remote control cords. Some third party cords have a built in intervalometer and other features (and they are not expensive). I am just happy that there seems to be some tangible improvements from one generation to the next – and yet the older cameras still are very good cameras. Progress is inevitable.
Weakling
9 months ago |Why would you need a remote for a timer or timelapse function? It should be on the camera itself, set the timer or timelapse interval, place camera, press shutter and it will do just that. Don’t need a remote for that I think.
Matt
9 months ago |Remote view with timelapse would be very useful, sometimes setting exposure etc on an awkward timelapse can take a while, being able to see it on my phone/tablet could be very handy in this instance.
Matt
9 months ago |Also checking how a timelapse is going, how many shots in etc without having to hunch over the camera regularly would be awesome
Boooe
9 months ago |It should have BOTH, in-body support for energy saving and remote for accurate framing
DH
9 months ago |Do any of the rumors say anything about external mic input? That’s something I’m really missing on my Nex C3
neo
9 months ago |Wow! SONY! 2.3K OVF and flash includes plus wi-fi and app support that a phone can control that shutter and flash trigger … man! do u still have touch screen like nex-5n with those added buttons … you are discarding NEX-7.. awesome job.. conquering job! congrats!
Bobslr
9 months ago |Sony should stay with the minolta hot shoe mount, The Universal hot shoe is ugly and not as reliable as the minolta one… 5years of using Nikon Flashes don’t lie…
Aby
9 months ago |New hot shoe is an step backwards, don’t like that
Dulaney Ward
9 months ago |I think we will find that the new hot shoe is actually a massive step forward.
rob
9 months ago |I wish Sony can release wifi enabled flashes (controllable with android/ios devices). Then it matters less which shoe any camera has.
mark
9 months ago |andrea, could you please confirm/find out whether the nex 6 has touch shutter?
admin
9 months ago |yes it has!
mark
9 months ago |sweeeet!
Ken Rockwell
9 months ago |I wouldn’t be surprised if they made it compatible with PSP games
CTPhotographX.com
9 months ago |Head spinning… I’m out… Wake me when we get there.
“when we get there” means:
-Announcements made for sure.
-Testers have spoken.
-Users report bugs.
-Users report flash and lens compatibility issues.
-Firmware updated to address bugs.
Y’all jus’ lem’me know… I’m right behind ya… Doin’ my jobs with the trusty a900 until it’s all worked out.
Brian
9 months ago |UGLY HOT SHOE NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Maxwell
9 months ago |Nah…
Now we have to much new at once.
I guess your sources are having some fun
Tommy Lin
9 months ago |Besides TRINAVI system, I think the NEX-6 gets over all better SPEC than 7 by far.
But I’m still wondering how will those current iISO type flash go?
I have three iISO flashes on hand now, really worry about that…
However, I’ll keep watching the new generation of NEX(5R and 6), and keep waiting for the successor of NEX-7.
The only wish I have now is hoping $ony could get us a new firmware for NEX-7…It’s been a long time waiting!!!
CTPhotographX.com
9 months ago |“overall better spec by far”??? 6 over 7???
ermmm… without an AF/MF button, the 6 will nevah see my bag.
BillW
9 months ago |How about a TV Tuner button for you? Just a thought.
GH
9 months ago |I would imagine that the AEL button on the NEX-6 will be programmable to allow AF/MF.
Catalin
9 months ago |Will the 16-50mm pancake lens be announced at the same time with the NEX-5R, and maybe sold as a kit ? Or will we have to wait until mid september (or even more) ?
Amit Zinman
9 months ago |As I said before, it seems that the NEX-6 is actually the NEX-7 replacement, as the 7 had too much MP for most of its customers. I do predict the the NEX-7 replacement will be bulkier and more DSLR-like, maybe FF? that will be a much better fit. No use of giving more pixels if you can’t have sharper images.
DH
9 months ago |I think your right Amit. Between the 3, 5 and 7 the 6 just feel off. But Sony could’ve done this to give them time to develop the new FF system. Also, placing the FF sensor in the camcorder now gives them the opportunity to evaluate and improve it. Then, by the time everybody is looking for the 7 replacement they’ll launch the FF. I expect it to be larger, though not dslr like since there is no mirror. Maybe more like the Fuji XPro-1 but with a well designed handgrip. After all, to take advantage of the FF sensor you’ll have to use it with the larger alpha lenses. Bigger body means better balance.
Boooe
9 months ago |>No use of giving more pixels if you can’t have sharper images.
1. Even if don’t get sharper images, you get rid of moire. Moire occurs on 16 mpx sensors, even with kit lenses.
2. People used teleconverters for ages, and sometimes even stacked them. For sharpness, it is much worse than having high mpx count. High mpx count is the sharpest teleconverter.
Jan
9 months ago |Phone remote sounds good for HDR. I hope, the A99 have it too. And please also for iPhone.
dts
9 months ago |Would love to see a 18-105mm 2.8-4 OSS collapsable…
Pierre
9 months ago |+100000000
Chiimaero
9 months ago |Remote control via phone…. let’s dream a bit :
- use phone gps as external gps ?
- use phone touch screen as a FULL remote screen, that is, all settings will be updatable (including mode, aperture, speed, iso, and so on)
- the screen phone can be used as a remote live view screen… even better than the most tiltable screen of any competitors
Tom
9 months ago |Here’s my dream, use my phone to make phone calls… use my camera to take pictures. I don’t really need to have both hands full of electronic devices at one time. All that said, just because I don’t like some of the features of the NEX-6 doesn’t mean that it will be a bad camera, still looking with an open mind to see how it stands as a camera. Less resolution is great. Dropping the silly Tri-Navi idea, even if not completely, is great. What else is in store?
Patrick
9 months ago |I wish there more people like you, with more sense. We dont want jacks of all trades, we want kings of one.
culcoloris
9 months ago |Navigation app on the Sony store.
Boooe
9 months ago |Buy a film camera. That’ll do only photos.
Mark
9 months ago |This sounds great, I’m excited.
But is it going to take until next year before it comes out? That will drive us all crazy. I’m about to buy the RX100 for my wife and I’ll buy this for me. Yipppppppppeeeeeeeeeeeee.
Don’t leave me hanging Sony………..
Also, I like the idea of the hot shoe, but I’m not sure if that means I can use my old canon EX 550 speedlite with that as TTL?
RollingThunder
9 months ago |*this was supposed to be a reply to Patrick*
I don’t see how having remote options can be a bad thing. Maybe you wouldn’t use a phone remote, but I can think of several good uses. If it works like the Samsung cameras (well, how they are supposed to work, I read they are pretty buggy), then you connect to the camera via ad-hock wifi and you can control the camera from roughly 30 feet away. This could be great for animal/nature photographers. They could hide 30 feet away from where the camera is mounted and still be able to see the live view and trigger shots.
I know this can be done already, but that would involve purchasing extra gear. Now anyone with a smart phone will have access to the same features for free.
For me it is an interesting feature because I am a paraplegic. Sitting in a wheelchair is not really the best way to take pictures. Swivel screens were a godsend, because then I could at least hold or mount the camera above or below me and still line up pictures. Using a phone as a remote viewfinder should make things even easier, and give me access to angles and shots I’ve been able to achieve before.
Anyway, Wifi and phone connectivity are popping up in more and more cameras these days, and Sony has to stay competitive with the rest of the market, so it was an inevitable addition. Let’s just hope that Sony does a better job implementing it than previous manufacturers.
Matt
9 months ago |As I’ve sad before, the new hotshoe is more of a cold shoe that is adaptable to either accesory Type (and probably more). It is a mount point for ISO stuff such as mics and field monitors. Then it has little adapters to use iISO (or whatever the Minolta shoe is called) as well as NEX accessory port stuff. Now Sony can develop accs that will work on both, it is about the continued convergence of Alpha and NEX. It is really smart and I hope that people will figure that out – your existing flash guns etc will work just fine and have all the same advantages as they do now. It is NOT about moving to a new flash system (though they may start to have flashes that don’t require the adapter but as a large part of their range are still either one or the other that mightnt happen for a while).
Mark
9 months ago |Thanks Matt, I am just happy to be able to use my other accessories with the camera. I really don’t care about proprietary systems. It would be better for Sony to produce systems that we can interchange with our existing camera systems, seeing as though most people have canon and Nikon gear as they are the biggest and have been around the longest. i use canon for my work, only because I started using Canon 18 years ago, and I am committed. For me it is about the image, I just want the camera and accessories to be able to get those images.
Whilst I am not really a gear-head photographer, I am excited about Sony giving the industry a bit of a shake up. Canon and Nikon have had it to good for to long. I just hope Sony can maintain the pressure, they are running at a loss, how long can that go on for?…..I know the cameras are making a profit. They need to be able to commit to a long time in the industry for photographers to commit to their systems. I would never have thought of buying a Sony camera in the past, now I am about to buy two cameras. I am also, about to up grade to a 5D mk3, imagine if the A99 had a canon mount. If it as good as what they say I would buy a A99 instead, maybe.
Austerlitz
9 months ago |andrea, Could you please confirm that a new Nex-6 will come with touch screen & Touch Shutter?
is it 100% correct??
Victor
9 months ago |Hope I can use nex-6 in concerts. Can we expect a silent camera?
John
9 months ago |I just hope Sony updates us A77 uses to have the same features… also full TETHER support we are all still waiting for (including a reply from Sony Japan and Sony UK about adding tether support as was promised during the release of the A77!)…
one thing that would really piss me off is if Sony do not update and include these features in there flagship A77 and rather release a replacement 1 year later for a camera that should have a 3-4 year life cycle in my opinion. This would seriously make me sell and move away from Sony… I can’t see them doing it as it’s going to upset many friends Iv’e brought over to Sony as well but let’s wait and see how things turn out.. I’m sure Sony will do the right thing by us in due time (just wish they communicated better and moved a little faster)….
Hoola
9 months ago |Can you ping your sources to see if the new NEXes will have GPS?
Nigel R
6 months ago |Same here, just waiting – but holding off while examining competitor products – with credit card in hand, for a NEX with viewfinder to appear **with** GPS.
Please no lecturing me about why would I need it.
It’s my credit card.